Kid went through the ice on nokomis....and another one went through in 3 lales

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Attak man

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We just had emts, sheriffs and dnr here...as a kid went through the ice on one of those 120s...the kid is fine, we got him in the bar, and emts got him warmed up...they are in the process of recovering the sled right now.

Nokomis is marked...but they were way off the marked trail, near the hwy n bridge (always open water there)...if you stay on the marked trail you'll be fine...but dont go off the trail if you dont know the lake.
And while this rescue was going on...the sheriffs got a call to 3 lakes, where somebody went through up there
Let's be smart people...if the lake isnt marked...stay off
If its marked...stay on the marked trail.
 
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dothedoo

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Glad the kid is ok, but a 120 on public land? You have to be 12 to ride on anything other than private land, and my 5 year old granddaughter is almost too big for her 120.
 
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MNBlizzard

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dothedoo said:
Glad the kid is ok, but a 120 on public land? You have to be 12 to ride on anything other than private land, and my 5 year old granddaughter is almost too big for her 120.
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I'm not sure if this was in MN or not, but in MN any kid can ride on public lands or GIA trails so long as they're accompanied by an adult.
 
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scott_l

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MNBlizzard said:
I'm not sure if this was in MN or not, but in MN any kid can ride on public lands or GIA trails so long as they're accompanied by an adult.
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Don’t they have to be 12 years old and have taken the youth snowmobile class to be on a GIA trail?
 
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dothedoo

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Attak man said:
Not when riding on a lake...while its marked by a club, it's not considered a club or state trail.
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Same age restrictions apply on a lake....no different than a trail. If you're under 12, you can only ride on your own private land...unless an adult is on the same sled.
 
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Attak man

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dothedoo said:
Same age restrictions apply on a lake....no different than a trail. If you're under 12, you can only ride on your own private land...unless an adult is on the same sled.
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I can tell you the dnr warden did not issue a ticket for under age rider, and the sled was recovered monday.
 
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dothedoo

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Attak man said:
I can tell you the dnr warden did not issue a ticket for under age rider, and the sled was recovered monday.
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Seems hard to imagine the DNR being involved and a ticket not issued if a kid was illegally riding on a lake and broke through the ice.

Parent at least arrested for child neglect? lol
 
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DamageInc

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Attak man said:
Not when riding on a lake...while its marked by a club, it's not considered a club or state trail.
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DNR treats it just like a trail, which is why you can be ticketed for no registration on a lake. Frozen lakes and rivers are "public areas" and the same rules apply as on trails.
 
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scott_l

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Attak man said:
Not when riding on a lake...while its marked by a club, it's not considered a club or state trail.
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My question/statement was directed to a GIA trail.....but yes I believe you are correct

I cant copy the text and paste it here for some reason, go to the below link and look on page 20


https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/regulations/snowmobile/index.html


to the other replies above I would also take a quick look at the link as it looks like several of you are misinformed
 
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scott_l

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DamageInc said:
DNR treats it just like a trail, which is why you can be ticketed for no registration on a lake. Frozen lakes and rivers are "public areas" and the same rules apply as on trails.
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for registration I believe you are correct but not for age restrictions, I just read through the regulations and it looks like sleds need to be registered to legally ride on a lake but you can purchase a non trail registration that is about half the normal cost (but then of course can't legally go on a GIA trail), a none trail registration number is issued (no idea what that looks like).

When I purchased my kids 120 from a private party the original owner did have it registered in MN through the DNR. I went to transfer the ownership and they said I had to pay for a registration renewal as the current one was expired. I said no 120s do not need to be registered, pointed it out in the regulations. The DMV worker was stumped but said ok, but could not get the system to complete the ownership transfer as the system wanted the registration paid. Manager came over and said since the original owner registered the 120 it must always be registered for now on. I said hhhhhuuuuuummmmmm I don't think so and they would not do jack squat to help me and basically told me too pay the registration or go push rope. I went outside called the MN DNR (got lucky and a very nice/knowledgeable person answered) explained what was going on. The DNR said go back in side and hand the manager your phone, there was a pretty good size line, Mr. DNR said walk up to the counter and ask for the manager again. I did and I could feel the glares coming form the line. Gave the manager my phone and the DNR person was able to walk the DMV manager through the steeps to essentially ignore the original registration.
 
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dothedoo

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scott_l said:
to the other replies above I would also take a quick look at the link as it looks like several of you are misinformed
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We're talking WI here, where the incident occurred. MN and WI are very different when it comes to kids under 12.

In WI, kids under 12 can't be riding solo on anything other than their own private land.
 
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DamageInc

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Attak man said:
Not when riding on a lake...while its marked by a club, it's not considered a club or state trail.
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You have been misinformed. The same age restriction applies in all "public areas", including frozen waters. It does not have to be a marked trail. Go the WI DNR site or ask a warden.

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scott_l said:
for registration I believe you are correct but not for age restrictions, I just read through the regulations and it looks like sleds need to be registered to legally ride on a lake but you can purchase a non trail registration that is about half the normal cost (but then of course can't legally go on a GIA trail), a none trail registration number is issued (no idea what that looks like).

When I purchased my kids 120 from a private party the original owner did have it registered in MN through the DNR. I went to transfer the ownership and they said I had to pay for a registration renewal as the current one was expired. I said no 120s do not need to be registered, pointed it out in the regulations. The DMV worker was stumped but said ok, but could not get the system to complete the ownership transfer as the system wanted the registration paid. Manager came over and said since the original owner registered the 120 it must always be registered for now on. I said hhhhhuuuuuummmmmm I don't think so and they would not do jack squat to help me and basically told me too pay the registration or go push rope. I went outside called the MN DNR (got lucky and a very nice/knowledgeable person answered) explained what was going on. The DNR said go back in side and hand the manager your phone, there was a pretty good size line, Mr. DNR said walk up to the counter and ask for the manager again. I did and I could feel the glares coming form the line. Gave the manager my phone and the DNR person was able to walk the DMV manager through the steeps to essentially ignore the original registration.
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We are discussing WI laws (where this incident occurred), not MN.
 
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