I thought you guys only liked METH up there???
Knuckleheads, Morons, FIB's, or locals... You Decide.
- Thread starter Hot Tub Mike
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I thought you guys only liked METH up there???
snobuilder
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we need the gateway drug first...lol
Yes we are in big casino money country up here. .... not gonna condemn anyone but the easy drugs follow the easy money.
Yes...you can continue to call folks from Iowa or Indiana FIBS
Hot Tub Mike - I guess I don't completely understand your rant. I am a water buff, and have always lived on water, that is often also used for second homes by others. On lake #3 now and often we have visitors from our southern most state, as you called them FIB's. There are many people who moved in as their primary homes over the years, some I will even state we have become friends with no baggage attached. However, the animosity comes in I have found is when someone moves to an area, due to job, marriage or because they love to recreate there, and DON'T assimilate to the local unwritten rules and general way of living. It sounds like you have, and I bet most of the "native" neighbors appreciate at you, just like the other neighbors, and certain I would too. What I can't figure out are the people (From IL or where ever), move or vacation to an area and are a complete donkey's butt and expect the locals to cater to their liking and way of thinking. That is where the FIB treatment comes from in my book.
Going back a year or three ago, I recall a post (maybe started by kip or john) about the way of life in the great snow belt. While I don't recall the complete jist of the post, it was along the lines of an outsider moved to the area and didn't like the way the locals were doing things and wanted it changed. Long story short, that person was ran out of town. Like I stated, assimilation isn't a bad thing.
Going back a year or three ago, I recall a post (maybe started by kip or john) about the way of life in the great snow belt. While I don't recall the complete jist of the post, it was along the lines of an outsider moved to the area and didn't like the way the locals were doing things and wanted it changed. Long story short, that person was ran out of town. Like I stated, assimilation isn't a bad thing.
sjb,
I don't recall that thread but you're right. I can speak for many locals here and 90% of them welcome sledders and just recreation in general. I've become great friends with many people from other states and they have impacted my life in a very positive way. However, if you come to the area to make changes to the way the living has been for years, it will not be welcomed. People live in rural areas for a reason and if you come to change that then you most likely won't win any popularity contests. I like where I live and would not appreciate people who would want to change that way of living. My 2 humble cents!
I don't recall that thread but you're right. I can speak for many locals here and 90% of them welcome sledders and just recreation in general. I've become great friends with many people from other states and they have impacted my life in a very positive way. However, if you come to the area to make changes to the way the living has been for years, it will not be welcomed. People live in rural areas for a reason and if you come to change that then you most likely won't win any popularity contests. I like where I live and would not appreciate people who would want to change that way of living. My 2 humble cents!
I remember riding in the yoop back in the early and mid 90s, and they were nowhere near as accepting of snowmobiliers up there, as northern Wisconsin was. Even when I lived up in south range, many older locals really disliked "bubbleheads"....the perception was that we rode loud, stinky machines, and were a bunch of drunks. The trail signs were written on carbboard boxes with sharpies, and grooming was not very good (bumps the size of volkswagons on the Nichols trail). Gas stations were closed at 10 PM, and there were very few warm up stops, to get something to eat.. What people need to understand is the yoop is not part of northern Wisconsin...the culture, heritage and the people are different. Winter is very long for the locals who live up there that don't snowmobile. Snow is something they are used to, but also hate. (you would too if you didn't ride, and had to shovel 300 inches a year)
That being said...things have changed through the years..the clubs up there really picked it up...they groom better, they mark trails better...there is better lodging, and places to eat, and I have noticed a much more accepting attitude towards sledders. But i remember when I first moved up there..being from Wisconsin, they didn't accept me at first. (Sorta the same thing as what Illinois people are treated in wisconsin, you're an outsider). The one thing we did have in common is the packers (though I found out it's closer to 60/40 Packer/Lion fans)...they love their hockey up there, and have awesome high school programs (and of course the redwings)...they follow the tigers in the summer (not the brewers)..but figuring out what college team they follow is tricky...lots of michigan state fans up there, but also alot of Michigan fans (and neither of those fans like the badgers).
You will know you are accepted by the locals up there when they invite you over for a Sauna, or a Mojakka cooked over a wood fire...and becareful drinking any Yooper Coffee (they make it really really strong...like at PATS...right Kip???)
That being said...things have changed through the years..the clubs up there really picked it up...they groom better, they mark trails better...there is better lodging, and places to eat, and I have noticed a much more accepting attitude towards sledders. But i remember when I first moved up there..being from Wisconsin, they didn't accept me at first. (Sorta the same thing as what Illinois people are treated in wisconsin, you're an outsider). The one thing we did have in common is the packers (though I found out it's closer to 60/40 Packer/Lion fans)...they love their hockey up there, and have awesome high school programs (and of course the redwings)...they follow the tigers in the summer (not the brewers)..but figuring out what college team they follow is tricky...lots of michigan state fans up there, but also alot of Michigan fans (and neither of those fans like the badgers).
You will know you are accepted by the locals up there when they invite you over for a Sauna, or a Mojakka cooked over a wood fire...and becareful drinking any Yooper Coffee (they make it really really strong...like at PATS...right Kip???)
Very true Brian! Good info you provided and accurate. For sure more Packer fans. Mostly Tiger fans and yes pretty even from MI to State fans. Red Wings 100%. If locals laugh and make fun of you in the U.P. that's a solid sign they like you. If they don't pick on you, or quit picking on you, that's a solid sign you've either wore out your welcome, or the 1st impression is not good!
