Michigan noise level.
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I have a aftermarket pipe on my sled . Not super loud , I called the manufacturer who is actually from lower michigan and states the law is 88 dB or less at a idle 50 feet away . I looked it up on Michigan dnr website and everything looked the same as what he said but did not state at a idle . I have been checked in Wisconsin before on a different sled and they make you lock the brakes and hold a constant 4000 rpm ( as the belt is smoking) . I did not get a fine or even a written warning on that one . Just smoked a 140 dollar belt .
Hopefully they start enforcing noise laws..hard to believe folks still put that crap on their sleds..well at least anyone over 16 yrs old.
I think of someone is dumb enough to risk our trails just so the can run a loud pipe, they are likely the same people making bad decisions on everything else snowmobile related..(confronting loggers, drunk, stealing trail passes, riding off trail where they shouldn't, running into trees..etc..)..
I think of someone is dumb enough to risk our trails just so the can run a loud pipe, they are likely the same people making bad decisions on everything else snowmobile related..(confronting loggers, drunk, stealing trail passes, riding off trail where they shouldn't, running into trees..etc..)..
Well my.....aren't we all self-rightgeous and full of ourselves this evening.........
If you don't like stuff, don't run it.......if it's too loud then owner will get a ticket........not up to you to be the arbiter of taste.......
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The law is not "new"....same as it's always been .....they have simply promised stricter enforcement..........
chords
Active member
“Conservation officers are stepping up decibel-level enforcement to ensure snowmobilers are in compliance with state law and acceptable noise levels,” said Cpl. John Morey, who oversees the snowmobile safety and education program within the DNR Law Enforcement Division. “In addition to the operator’s legal ramifications of operating a loud snowmobile, this excessive noise has consequences that can affect other snowmobilers, including the loss of popular snowmobile trails.”
MI DNR Press Release
MI DNR Press Release
75 percent of my sleds are modified it's kinda my thing most have aftermarket pipes or cans. I enjoy the sound my sled makes just like my harley it's a personal choice people. And I'm well above the age of 16. I've been checked before and it was no big deal mine was at idle but like I said the dnr officer told my uncle that with lack of snow in most places they will be focused on sobriety checks and safety. It kinda makes sense to me. They have to make things a priority I think safety should be a top. Anyways back to the topic. There will always be people with loud pipes. I'm respectful and when I'm in town I go slow and I take my time and be as quiet as possible. But insulting people because of there choice in exhaust is not the way to even begin to try and solve the issue. Just my. .20......
MOD
MOD
Your choice of exhaust causes us to lose trails..What part of that do you not understand? It insults me you don't care enough for the future of our sport because you "like" the sound of your annoying sled..You will also be the first guy crying when a trail is closed...
How much are you involved in your snowmobile club trails? Do you meet with land owners?
How much are you involved in your snowmobile club trails? Do you meet with land owners?
Modman - I am with Brad on this one and in the camp of kind of don't get it. There are landowners who don't want loud pipes going through their land. My perception of folks with loud pipes, is that they do crank the RPS's at the wrong time, way too many times. I understand you like the sound - I use to race MX and believe me, all my machines were modifed then. However, with the push to keep as many trails open as possible, I simply see any machine modified to be noiser than stock is the problem, not the solution.
You mention harley's as well. Now I fully admit I am putting all into one basket, but the last house I lived on was a popular ride for bikes. All bikes would come around the corner I lived on and drop a gear and bring the r's up. Harleys would be so loud (the ones modified at least) it would wake up my childern at the time. In summer, if they were sleeping, we would need to keep all the windows closed and would still have issues. So when folks comment with pipes that they are respectful and go quiet near homes, I simply don't buy it.
I know I am over simplifing, but be part of the solution, not the problem.
You mention harley's as well. Now I fully admit I am putting all into one basket, but the last house I lived on was a popular ride for bikes. All bikes would come around the corner I lived on and drop a gear and bring the r's up. Harleys would be so loud (the ones modified at least) it would wake up my childern at the time. In summer, if they were sleeping, we would need to keep all the windows closed and would still have issues. So when folks comment with pipes that they are respectful and go quiet near homes, I simply don't buy it.
I know I am over simplifing, but be part of the solution, not the problem.
ddhanna
Active member
Anybody who has ever had the job of securing land use agreements for their club (I have 100+) would NEVER consider aftermarket pipes for their sled. It does not matter how snowmobilers feel about the subject, landowners always get their way and they don't like 'em. We have just been given notice to close or reroute a major trail for us next year. The reason given was noise. Thankfully, we were given a year to try and figure it out. How come I never see the loud pipe people out there working on reroutes?
groomerdriver
New member
Buddah - where you live it doesn't matter...run straight pipes...nobody up there cares.
For us "lowlife highbrows" down here, it DOES matter! Same sheet year after year.....trails closed due to landowners not wanting to hear loud pipes all night. Look at what happened out by Wakefield? Major re-route because a landowner said ENOUGH.
When was the last time you lifted a finger on anything trail related....other that to sit on the various websites and lift your finger to type?
STFU! I'm sick of people like you! Just worked last Saturday on a 3 mile major reroute of Corridor 12 here. ONE unhappy landowner had us working in 5 degree temps to get a trail through.
Oooh....I can't wait to read your reply! LOL!! SOF!
cobalt_502
Active member
All you have to do is sit at the Krupp's Market for a few minutes and see that in and around homes and people seems to be the time the pipes are abused the most, the look at me syndrome!
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G
Guest
Two things. Landowners are the boss. Secondly most aftermarket pipes do not improve performance. You might save a little weight but that is about it.
With 3 simple sentences, well stated, and agreed 100%!
scoot
Member
Around here many of the property owners who were also active club members are getting out of the sport themselves or selling their land to non snowmobilers. Either way, the snowmobiles have become an annoyance. And even here in farm country, people need to keep the noise down and stay on the trail because there are only so many places to reroute a trail and we're running out of options. Soon all that will be left will be running along roadsides.
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Cirrus_Driver
Guest
Why aren't "landowners in charge" regarding Harley's and straight pipes rattling windows all summer? Much worse with windows open. Road runs right by my house - private property, wtd? When laws aren't enforced equally, I get where some "thumb their noses" at the self appointed hall monitors. Selective enforcement is wrong - the law is the law. Why does every trail have to connect - just dead end the trail - you're still riding, aren't you?
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