Mixing your first tank of gas.

frosty

Member
I just did mine. 2011 Arctic Cat Crossfire 800 SP LTD. It was highly recommended by the dealer for setting the rings and getting all the other parts set. :)
 
Yes, It's very important to make sure the rings seat properly. That first tank of pre-mix will provide the best lubrication for this process at the beginning of every rebuild or new motor.
 

docs_88

New member
this may be another stupid question but do the new synthetic oils (polaris ves gold plus) mix well in a tank of gas or do you use something else?
 

Bullcheater

New member
Dealer mechanic told me it is highly recomended. My question would be? Why do the dealers not mix and fill the first tank. My last new sled came with one gal. gas in it and one pint of oil. I did not mix the first tank. It siezed a piston the first cold day. Warranty covered it. My brothers new sled from a different dealer and brand , comes full on all liquids and trail ready. My dealer says it is up to the owner. I understand that this would be a $50.00 expense to them but, It just cost the factory and or them the repair.
 
this may be another stupid question but do the new synthetic oils (polaris ves gold plus) mix well in a tank of gas or do you use something else?

Repair manual tells you to use polaris blue, but I used the ves gold and had no problems with the break in at all. I would use it just because it is a better oil, IMO.
 

mikedrh

Member
Plain & simple, extra oil will not help seat rings in any way, shape or form. Rings kinda conform (seat) to the bore. Too much oil will stop that process.

I'm not sure where that ever came from.
 

doomsman

New member
plain & simple, extra oil will not help seat rings in any way, shape or form. Rings kinda conform (seat) to the bore. Too much oil will stop that process.

I'm not sure where that ever came from.

xx2
Now if you want insurance and check that the oil
injection is working and calibrated go for it.
 

stevis

New member
X3
Extra oil does not help with ring break in. The extra oil is to make sure oil injection is working at the correct rate and protect the motor if the system is not working properly. Also, it helps to quickly develop the small pools of oil, in the bottom end of the motor, necessary to lubricate the bearings.
 

hednup2

Member
Ok, being a 4-stroke dude I'm about to ask this dumb question: are you guys talking about running a premixed tank of gas along with the oil that's being injected by the pump? & so that means they want you to have a rich oil enviroment while the motor is breaking in, isn't that fouling your plugs having the extra oil in the motor?
 

michaeladams

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i premix first tank of the season just to make sure oil pump is still working.after a tank of fuel the oil in the oil tank should be down and then i know for sure i won't be burning down from lack of oil.just my 2 cents
 

poo_boy

New member
The only reason to mix oil in the gas is to make sure all the air is out of the oil injection circuit. Has no other use.

Call the dealer to get the correct ratio. Run 1 full tank while you are breaking in the motor and just fill up with fresh gas when the tank is empty and you should be good to go. Make sure the oil tank is going down while you are burning that first tank.
 

docs_88

New member
OK I had to put a new top end in my 600 Fusion recently (torn intake boots). When I picked it up from the dealer I asked if there was anything special that I needed to do with it and he said just don't go out and beat on it right away, hold it at steady speeds or wide open for too long. I didn't ask if he premixed the gas and I should have. I now have a whopping 180 miles on it since the rebuild and it seems to be running fine. I am going on a long backpack trip this weekend and was wondering if I should even bother putting any oil in the gas?? Maybe half a quart for a full tank??? Or is it past the point where it would matter??
 

Polarice

New member
Quite frequently I'll put some extra oil in the gas. Maybe a couple cap fulls. It's not going to foul plugs or anything like that. You may smoke a little more but big deal.

An old dealer I talk to puts oil in his gas on his FST. Now that may be a little overboard but he says that those injectors need lubrication too. Also, as far as oil injection goes; it's not 100%.
 

mikedrh

Member
You should consider the fact that whatever amount of oil you put in your tank displaces that same amount of fuel. If you were lean on fuel to start with you just made it that much leaner.

All the oil in the world WILL NOT fix a lean fuel condition. You should make sure your oil injection system is doing what it is supposed to do (and no air bubbles in the lines) long before you start it.
 
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