No pinks or purples on the map yet but there is a "pink line" with a whisper of hope inside of it, lets hope old man winter is finally going to unleash his fury!! lets get this snow machine started and not add insult to injury to the north woods that relies so heavily on snow! FINGERS CROSSED!!!
More colors on the map!
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indy_500
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Depends on your definition of satisfactory. It’s my understanding that most places north of hwy 64 in Wisconsin and into the UP have between 2-4” maybe more in the UP snow belt and have done some sort of rolling/panning. With minimal snow a lot of areas got a chance to freeze also. I would think 10” and they’d be plenty rideable in NWI and the UP
pclark
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Could use some snow with moisture in it to be honest but I guess we'll take anything that comes our way. Trouble with the lake effect is that the farther it gets away from the lake the drier it is. Trails have to have 6" on them to open in WI, (thats our county anyway) 200 sleds down a trail with 10" of dry snow = lots of dirt and sand plus rocks. I'm sure we have all ridden in those conditions but not for me anymore, I'll wait, it won't be long now until the pattern breaks and the north woods gets snow.
Pclark, I don't think I've ever heard LES termed that way, i.e. "The farther it gets away from the lake the drier it is".
Ususally LES gets inland about 15-20 miles or so and as the available moisture content is "wrung out", and then it stops, or lessens to a point of not even being worthwhile of a LES event. The available moisture is well, pooped out and then cannot fall anymore, or actually lessened as it reaches a certain point and then dissipates completely.
There's a point inland from the lake where the magic really starts to happen, I'd say about 2 or 3 miles away from shore - at that point the air has been affected by forces of geography, tree cover, changes in temperature between land and sea, etc prevailing wind patterns etc.. and then all Heck breaks loose and the buildup is too strong to stay in the clouds and WALA! You get some serious accumulations in a short period of time!
LES typically is most pronounced in areas 2 miles inland and 15 miles away from the lakeshore, after that point it's all well, "Wrung Out" but I've never noticed an amount of moisture different from shoreline and further from the lake.
Ususally LES gets inland about 15-20 miles or so and as the available moisture content is "wrung out", and then it stops, or lessens to a point of not even being worthwhile of a LES event. The available moisture is well, pooped out and then cannot fall anymore, or actually lessened as it reaches a certain point and then dissipates completely.
There's a point inland from the lake where the magic really starts to happen, I'd say about 2 or 3 miles away from shore - at that point the air has been affected by forces of geography, tree cover, changes in temperature between land and sea, etc prevailing wind patterns etc.. and then all Heck breaks loose and the buildup is too strong to stay in the clouds and WALA! You get some serious accumulations in a short period of time!
LES typically is most pronounced in areas 2 miles inland and 15 miles away from the lakeshore, after that point it's all well, "Wrung Out" but I've never noticed an amount of moisture different from shoreline and further from the lake.
I have always wondered why mass city area seemed to always be a hot spot for snow amounts and I think you have explained it! Looked at the forecast graphic today and the better colors are on the wrong side of the lake uuuugh! hopefully things will change.
pclark
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I love weather but am not accredited so its my personal observations. Ive been in your neck of the woods and the snow is pretty deep there because of the dumps you get. We live about 40 miles SE of Lake Superior in MW and are on the southern end of the LES snowbelt. We do benefit from LES but as an example Hurley, WI might get 36", we may get 12" and when Ive been in Hurley the snow just seems have a heavier consistency. We'll take whatever we can get and the storms by us also seem to be enhanced by the lake at times. The last 2 years by us have been phenomenal with loads of snow, don't know what this year will bring but we'll definitely be riding soon enough.
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From what I've read from John and other places, it is more the elevation than how far from the lake you are as far as LES goes. The higher elevation areas get the most LES. Hopefully John will chime in on this.
lets hope so pclark! and hopefully sooner than later! old man winter needs to get his butt in gear!!
Mpease, ABSOLUTELY YEA! (Forgot to mention elevation, but it's a huge factor!) Where we are it's only about 300 feet higher than Superior, but it's just enough (along with the distance from lake and other items I mentioned). I also forgot to mention "Fetch" which is the distance the air travels over a body of water allowing it to gather moisture.
Where we are the fetch is 175 miles with a NW wind, so that gives it lots of time to get soupy as ****!!!
Regarding elevation, if you've ever been through areas like Twin Lakes, or Mass City for that matter (Follow 26 from Mass City all the way to Painesdale) you'll definitely see how elevation factors in. It happens again as you follow your way up past Hancock into Calument and ultimately Delaware.
Pclark I'm with you buddy, whatever we can get - is good enough for me!
