NEED HELP!! Survey from John Dee Sledders!

whitedust

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let's just hope it goes somewhere. Chad, your service dept. would close if they get it too right.

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How long does it really take to change oil in a Yami 4 stroker?

As long as it takes for warm oil to run out but to be fair changing oil is not the the time consumer it is the oil filter change every 12,000 miles or so that takes time then again there are filter relocation kits puts filter right up front.
 

chad66

Member
let's just hope it goes somewhere. Chad, your service dept. would close if they get it too right.

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How long does it really take to change oil in a Yami 4 stroker?

The 3 cylinders are not bad at all, the four cylinders and twin's take about 45 minutes to do an oil/filter change. But like Whitedust said, you only have to change the filter every 12k miles. It's WAY quicker than changing pistons and cranks!!!

Chad@M&M
 

polarisrider1

New member
The 3 cylinders are not bad at all, the four cylinders and twin's take about 45 minutes to do an oil/filter change. But like Whitedust said, you only have to change the filter every 12k miles. It's WAY quicker than changing pistons and cranks!!!

Chad@M&M
12,000 miles. not bad. 45 minutes... ok. What does pistons and crank have to do with oil change?
 

timo

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I'd say he's comparing the time its gonna take for you to replace pistons and cranks after 12000 miles vs the time for an oil filter at 12000 miles




12,000 miles. not bad. 45 minutes... ok. What does pistons and crank have to do with oil change?
 

polarisrider1

New member
I'd say he's comparing the time its gonna take for you to replace pistons and cranks after 12000 miles vs the time for an oil filter at 12000 miles

I do like the idea of a sled lasting a long time. Helps offset the insane cost of the purchase price. I would consider a 4 stroker for trail riding if I ever get back into that.
but back to the topic: I would surely hate to see any manufacturer lighten up their sleds to the point that they are unreliable and/or structurally unsound. One thing I never hear positive about Yamaha is their suspensions (ride quality), that is more important then lightening up the sled faster then technology can keep up. As the rider base gets older (me) reliability is important. Yamaha has that part down. In the long haul it will be 4 strokes and trail riding that wins out.
 

whitedust

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I do like the idea of a sled lasting a long time. Helps offset the insane cost of the purchase price. I would consider a 4 stroker for trail riding if I ever get back into that.
but back to the topic: I would surely hate to see any manufacturer lighten up their sleds to the point that they are unreliable and/or structurally unsound. One thing I never hear positive about Yamaha is their suspensions (ride quality), that is more important then lightening up the sled faster then technology can keep up. As the rider base gets older (me) reliability is important. Yamaha has that part down. In the long haul it will be 4 strokes and trail riding that wins out.

Apex GT mono 136 pretty darn good but need to know how to set up correctly & with EC mono push a button on the fly to tweak for studders. Mono unlike any other OEM rear skid so many don't know how to set up for butter smooth. I know many had problems with poo M10 as well if missed sweet spot for their weight & 1st proride too. Yamaha skids very capable when set up correctly for rough trail but if you get it wrong you don't know what your are missing & many do get it wrong & no idea how to get performance. What can I say other than change 1 thing at a time we take days just riding & tweaking when we have a new machine until we are dialed in.
 

polarisrider1

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Apex GT mono 136 pretty darn good but need to know how to set up correctly & with EC mono push a button on the fly to tweak for studders. Mono unlike any other OEM rear skid so many don't know how to set up for butter smooth. I know many had problems with poo M10 as well if missed sweet spot for their weight & 1st proride too. Yamaha skids very capable when set up correctly for rough trail but if you get it wrong you don't know what your are missing & many do get it wrong & no idea how to get performance. What can I say other than change 1 thing at a time we take days just riding & tweaking when we have a new machine until we are dialed in.
It should be easier then that. Heck I have wondered if I have setup past sleds correctly. It could drive an anal personality nuts. Good info, thank you.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
It should be easier then that. Heck I have wondered if I have setup past sleds correctly. It could drive an anal personality nuts. Good info, thank you.

That is exactly correct & what I told Yamaha shame on them for making it so difficult to set up but then can't be high performance if no adjustments just no carry over knowledge from other brand skids to Yamaha mono & why the learning curve is so difficult.
 

warner

Active member
i'd be interested in some storage on the sled...spend 10,000 on a sled with no storage and then spend more money on some sort of storage for it makes no sense to me...oh ya and move the darn tailight on the nytro's...oh ya and put a decent size fuel tank on it also (7.4 gals is not enuff)
 

polarisrider1

New member
i'd be interested in some storage on the sled...spend 10,000 on a sled with no storage and then spend more money on some sort of storage for it makes no sense to me...oh ya and move the darn tailight on the nytro's...oh ya and put a decent size fuel tank on it also (7.4 gals is not enuff)

It is all about getting it light weight.
 

polarisrider1

New member
ya i know however sleds should come with some decent size storage...that might equat to what say an extra pound? everyone adds some sort of storage anyway, be it a tunnel bag or slapping on a backpack
Ya I know. I have a spare gas can, tunnel bag and a backpack oh and a spare tire, but that is weight I added to sled, not the manufacturer. besides now they can sell you highly marked up accessories.
 

warner

Active member
I have first hand experience with those monster a-arms and it wasn't good......
we can have a beer someday and talk bout that.
 

twistgrip

Member
The 3 cylinders are not bad at all, the four cylinders and twin's take about 45 minutes to do an oil/filter change. But like Whitedust said, you only have to change the filter every 12k miles. It's WAY quicker than changing pistons and cranks!!!

Chad@M&M

Amen brother!
 
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