NFL Draft next week!

momoney2123

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From reading multiple sources it sounds like the Bears did reach really far for Trub. I haven't seen any reputable sourced that said any other teams we're trading up to get him and could have easily just stayed at their spot and.got him. I don't mind the pick at all, it's the possibly unnecessary trade.
It's always funny when people compare players and say they will never be a Rodgers or Brady....well there 2 of the best ever. Kind of a tough comparison.
The only thing I can say bad about the Pack is lack of SB with 2 HOF back to back QB's. The Pack need to go all in the next couple of years before Rodgers calls it a career.

at least pace got his picks back last night. obviously something told pace whether it was inside info or not, that trubisky could be taken #2. if it was as simple as no way that's possible like most donkeys who really have no clue write about, then clearly pace wouldn't have done it. I love all the 'experts' mock drafts.....no one was close lol, but they are the experts. not the real life GM's....like pace...the writers know more...haha

im sure pace has lots of connections along with other bears personnel that knew it was possible someone jumping the bears to get him, maybe it wouldn't have happened but no one knows and pace wasn't risking it. so I don't fault him for the move.

here is article saying 2 teams tried jumping....so if its your guy then go get him!!!

http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/proof-surfaces-two-teams-tried-to-jump-bears-for-mitch-trubisky/
 

snobuilder

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at least pace got his picks back last night. obviously something told pace whether it was inside info or not, that trubisky could be taken #2. if it was as simple as no way that's possible like most donkeys who really have no clue write about, then clearly pace wouldn't have done it. I love all the 'experts' mock drafts.....no one was close lol, but they are the experts. not the real life GM's....like pace...the writers know more...haha

im sure pace has lots of connections along with other bears personnel that knew it was possible someone jumping the bears to get him, maybe it wouldn't have happened but no one knows and pace wasn't risking it. so I don't fault him for the move.

here is article saying 2 teams tried jumping....so if its your guy then go get him!!!

http://sportsmockery.com/2017/04/proof-surfaces-two-teams-tried-to-jump-bears-for-mitch-trubisky/

Keep writing....this is fun.
 

whitedust

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To me Pace reached for Trubinsky but he did recover some of his later picks via trade so not as bad as it seemed at first the price to move up seemed waaaaay tooooo high but if Trubinsky is his guy to rebuild around then so be it. Both Glennon and Trubinsky need REPs so that is puzzeling & how does that work out?...lol... Glennon can be flushed in one year so no big money tied up with him. I think Shaw is as good as gone. Looking at the Bears schedule 5-9 would be a fabulous improvement this year and they will prolly wreck some team's chances in the North in some foul weather games. Pace sure did not go heavy on D in the draft as expected and he seems more tuned in to FA than the draft. Fox not being on the inside of the Trubinsky pick seems crazy or maybe Fox not Pace's guy either. It maybe the offical Pace Era starts now and McCasky is allowing a purge of past player sins and going with new Pace draft and FA selection and signings. The current players got to be saying "Holy Molly" what just happened and how do I fit? Is that a bad thing?
 

timo

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Every site or show I've seen gave the bears a D.
You won't find anyone who says they didn't over reach on Trubisky.
Bears didn't do much to address their bad defense.
The GM not even running by - advising head coach on their future signal caller says a lot about how valuable they feel their head coach is. When the GM isn't advising the coach on drafts picks, especially when he trades up to # 2 and the reaches on a QB with 17 career starts that coach's days r numbered. What u think Fox would want to do win today, or in 2020? Trubisky not helping win today.
 

momoney2123

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Every site or show I've seen gave the bears a D.
You won't find anyone who says they didn't over reach on Trubisky.
Bears didn't do much to address their bad defense.
The GM not even running by - advising head coach on their future signal caller says a lot about how valuable they feel their head coach is. When the GM isn't advising the coach on drafts picks, especially when he trades up to # 2 and the reaches on a QB with 17 career starts that coach's days r numbered. What u think Fox would want to do win today, or in 2020? Trubisky not helping win today.

I guess what happened is fox knew they liked trubisky and it was possible they were gona take him but he did not know for sure until hour before the draft. Guess pace didnt want to risk it being leaked. The phone call betweem fox and trubisky after he was drafted seemed like fox was pumped. Maybe he was acting.

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Also draft grades matter when the are given 4 or 5 years later. No ONE liked the trade the bears made. Easy to criticize. If trubisky is what he is expected to be..none of it matters. GO BEARS!
 

whitedust

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Every site or show I've seen gave the bears a D.
You won't find anyone who says they didn't over reach on Trubisky.
Bears didn't do much to address their bad defense.
The GM not even running by - advising head coach on their future signal caller says a lot about how valuable they feel their head coach is. When the GM isn't advising the coach on drafts picks, especially when he trades up to # 2 and the reaches on a QB with 17 career starts that coach's days r numbered. What u think Fox would want to do win today, or in 2020? Trubisky not helping win today.

Agree... all the talking heads low grade the Bears 2017 draft but if Trubisky pans out well in 2 years then no one will remember the trade details. I didn't like Fox not knowing about the trade so Pace is making some sort of statement about Fox, ...imo Fox ,Pace or both will be gone if Bears are 3 / 13 next year as fan base done waiting for improvement. I'm not getting the warm fuzzies about the Bears as an organization at the top. It will be an interesting year if 3-13 shake up coming.....AGAIN...
 

whitedust

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Seems that Pace has an unhappy locker room of Players and Agents. Glennon is getting paid well for 1 year or less of service but just maybe he would not signed with Pace if it was really just 1 year deal and signed for less $ with another club that would have given him a better chance to play. IDK how all this will work out on the field but not a happy team right now.
 

momoney2123

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Seems that Pace has an unhappy locker room of Players and Agents. Glennon is getting paid well for 1 year or less of service but just maybe he would not signed with Pace if it was really just 1 year deal and signed for less $ with another club that would have given him a better chance to play. IDK how all this will work out on the field but not a happy team right now.

Why would glennon be mad. Hes essentially getting 18.5 million for 1 year. If he plays well someone else will take him or bears will keep him another year. They are giving the guy a shot and paying him well for it. He should be estatic. Just cause there is someone competing behind u that will eventually take the spot is not a good reason to be a sour puss. Who else has the right to be mad? This is a big boy league....if people want to pout about whats goin on then thats reason enough they need to rid of them.
 

timo

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was reading something yesterday where the Bears brass had a draft day party and asked Glennon to appear to intermingle with the selected invitee's then they move up and draft his replacement. LOL.
nothing personal Mike business is business.

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switching gears to the Packers draft I only know a little of these guys but every where I read they gave TT an A and one site gave him an A+.
King will be starting immediately.
 

momoney2123

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was reading something yesterday where the Bears brass had a draft day party and asked Glennon to appear to intermingle with the selected invitee's then they move up and draft his replacement. LOL.
nothing personal Mike business is business.

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switching gears to the Packers draft I only know a little of these guys but every where I read they gave TT an A and one site gave him an A+.
King will be starting immediately.


If glennon is a pro's pro it shouldn't matter who they drafted. He is starting and if he plays well everything will work out for him either way. The best problem the bears could have is glennon makes it hard to move on from him. He played on a horrible team and oline the last games he started so who knows how he will do...


I thought for sure packers were gona take watt. 3 RBs..interesting strategy...guess hopin one of them works out.
 

whitedust

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If glennon is a pro's pro it shouldn't matter who they drafted. He is starting and if he plays well everything will work out for him either way. The best problem the bears could have is glennon makes it hard to move on from him. He played on a horrible team and oline the last games he started so who knows how he will do...


I thought for sure packers were gona take watt. 3 RBs..interesting strategy...guess hopin one of them works out.

IDK but Bears management does not not seem to be working together with head coach, scouts and other team departments. I had a different impression of Pace as a manager... Yes he is the GM BUT he didn't improve his trust relationships with Fox, players or other agents the way he handled the Trubisky pick. Pace likes FAs but he will pay dearly for future FAs can't trust his intentions at all. None of us know how any of this will work out until the season starts but up to now players wanted to play for coach Fox....doesn't seem to matter what Fox thinks it's a Pace team. Football is a team sport and players need to think that way not individual stats as it is the team W that counts. I just don't know how the players will react on the field when the Bears fall behind? Pace has many 1 year FA contracts & players may just say F it I want out of here next year this signing was a big mistake. If you think Pace does not have a player/management trust issue think again Pace has a problem that needs to be fixed ASAP..
 

gary_in_neenah

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Wonder how George Halas would have handled this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A totally different era, Abe. Nobody would second guess a decision by Halas or Lombardi whether it be media or staff, they'd be on the first train out of town with the coach's boot in their rear.
 

momoney2123

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IDK but Bears management does not not seem to be working together with head coach, scouts and other team departments. I had a different impression of Pace as a manager... Yes he is the GM BUT he didn't improve his trust relationships with Fox, players or other agents the way he handled the Trubisky pick. Pace likes FAs but he will pay dearly for future FAs can't trust his intentions at all. None of us know how any of this will work out until the season starts but up to now players wanted to play for coach Fox....doesn't seem to matter what Fox thinks it's a Pace team. Football is a team sport and players need to think that way not individual stats as it is the team W that counts. I just don't know how the players will react on the field when the Bears fall behind? Pace has many 1 year FA contracts & players may just say F it I want out of here next year this signing was a big mistake. If you think Pace does not have a player/management trust issue think again Pace has a problem that needs to be fixed ASAP..

Did you know pace, fox, ragone and loggains met with trubisky for dinner back In march and held a private workout with him. No one knew this. pace told trubisky to keep it secret. trubisky graded the top qb on all above mentioned QB list. they unanimously liked him. it was not pace working alone....just sayin....I think you have your stories mixed with facts....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zxo0z51Hmg

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Pace: 'john(fox) and I are connected at the hip'...'we talked about mitch a long time'
 

whitedust

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Did you know pace, fox, ragone and loggains met with trubisky for dinner back In march and held a private workout with him. No one knew this. pace told trubisky to keep it secret. trubisky graded the top qb on all above mentioned QB list. they unanimously liked him. it was not pace working alone....just sayin....I think you have your stories mixed with facts....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zxo0z51Hmg

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Pace: 'john(fox) and I are connected at the hip'...'we talked about mitch a long time'
Pace says he and Fox are joined at the hip after the fact that Fox was surprised Trubisky was picked #2....lol. Sounds to me like Pace has a PR problem with what was reported and may have happened. I have no problem with the Trubisky pick if Pace wanted him he got him regardless of the price but seems like a reach to me. I sure hope Trubisky is as good as Pace rated him in the draft. In comparos of todays QBs it was said Bridgewater was better than all of them this crew just not ready to play at the NFL level this year. Pace has many 1 year FA contracts and I hope those players are worth resigning play well want to be back with the Bears. If not the Bears won't be much better this year or next year. I'm hoping for the best but the schedule is tuff and if the Bears lose 6 right away they might implode & I'm not sure how Pace will act if that happens.
 

old abe

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A totally different era, Abe. Nobody would second guess a decision by Halas or Lombardi whether it be media or staff, they'd be on the first train out of town with the coach's boot in their rear.

My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!! Oh well, I say so what!!!
 

momoney2123

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Interesting comments from titans GM....go bears!


http://sportsmockery.com/2017/05/comments-titans-gm-prove-even-teams-wanted-mitch-trubisky/

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Pace says he and Fox are joined at the hip after the fact that Fox was surprised Trubisky was picked #2....lol. Sounds to me like Pace has a PR problem with what was reported and may have happened. I have no problem with the Trubisky pick if Pace wanted him he got him regardless of the price but seems like a reach to me. I sure hope Trubisky is as good as Pace rated him in the draft. In comparos of todays QBs it was said Bridgewater was better than all of them this crew just not ready to play at the NFL level this year. Pace has many 1 year FA contracts and I hope those players are worth resigning play well want to be back with the Bears. If not the Bears won't be much better this year or next year. I'm hoping for the best but the schedule is tuff and if the Bears lose 6 right away they might implode & I'm not sure how Pace will act if that happens.


Was fox really suprised? Didnt seem like it to me...altho haha i dont kno fox personally
 

whitedust

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Interesting comments from titans GM....go bears!


http://sportsmockery.com/2017/05/comments-titans-gm-prove-even-teams-wanted-mitch-trubisky/

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Was fox really suprised? Didnt seem like it to me...altho haha i dont kno fox personally

Many that do know him said Fox seemed very surprised...but who knows what goes on behind closed doors??? lol. Glennon sure seemed cold cocked but really not his place to question a draft choice but would have been easier for him in private than a public PR appearance when it went down....imo. I still don't know how Fox will work all this out??? All the QBs need reps and Glennon will start the first 8 games or until this season is a lost cause then Trubisky will play unless he is not ready and would be abused. I do not think the Bears will win many games this year will have top 10 picks next year as well. This is a throwing league and I hoped at least the Bears had a shot a Zay Jones a big WR to replace Alshon. Pace has been focussed on TEs...what is up with that? Sure they need a couple good ones but loaded with TE bodies now.
 
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