oil consumption

[Redneck_indy]

I have a 2015 polaris indy 600 and I was wondering what the oil consumption should be. I put on 150 miles and used just about a quart. Is this OK or is it a little lean

 

[polarbear]

I have a 2011 switchback 600 and a 2015 Indy 600 as well. I am using about the same amount of oil as you are.

 

[Builder Bob]

What brand oil do you use?


I put the bait in the water, but couldn't get a nibble....

 

[polarbear]

Polaris VES

 

[sweeperguy]

I have a 2015 polaris indy 600 and I was wondering what the oil consumption should be. I put on 150 miles and used just about a quart. Is this OK or is it a little lean

I have a new 14 polaris 600 rmk. When I brougjt it in to dealer for 150 mile check out, I questioned the oil use. I had calculated it out to be 60:1. Wanted dealer to increase oil flow. They put in a CASE to polaris tech. The response was The oil use varies significantly depending on throttle use. At idle it can be as low as 90or100:1 up to running WOT usage rate of 40:1 and any ratio in between dependant on throttle.
So that is Polaris take on it. Personally I am seriously considering turning up oil pump. Going to recalculate usage once we get a little more snow and am running it a little harder. In the meantime I am continuing to add some oil to the gas to ensure at least the top end is getting lubed
I would also greatly appreciate any feedback on this topic, and my approach to it.
THANK YOU in advance.

 

[srt20]

I have a new 14 polaris 600 rmk. When I brougjt it in to dealer for 150 mile check out, I questioned the oil use. I had calculated it out to be 60:1. Wanted dealer to increase oil flow. They put in a CASE to polaris tech. The response was The oil use varies significantly depending on throttle use. At idle it can be as low as 90or100:1 up to running WOT usage rate of 40:1 and any ratio in between dependant on throttle.
So that is Polaris take on it. Personally I am seriously considering turning up oil pump. Going to recalculate usage once we get a little more snow and am running it a little harder. In the meantime I am continuing to add some oil to the gas to ensure at least the top end is getting lubed
I would also greatly appreciate any feedback on this topic, and my approach to it.
THANK YOU in advance.

More oil has never hurt a 2 stroke engine.

 

[sweeperguy]

More oil has never hurt a 2 stroke engine.

YES and in the grand scheme of things oil is cheap. Up to fouling plugs its all good and even swapping out plugs takes what, a minute and a half. Clean the fouled plugs and they're ready for backup.

 

[groomerdriver]

Clean the fouled plugs and they're ready for backup.

Disagree with you there DS! Once a 2S plug is fouled, it's shot and should be thrown away.

 

[G]

The biggest reason they are running them so thin on oil is emissions. I am a little surprised that it is still even possible to adjust the oil delivery systems. But if you can adjust it wont hurt a thing to boost the oil delivery a little. Not to 20 to 1 or anything like that but 50 to 1 seems like a nice number. There would not be any plug fouling at 50 to 1. As has been said oil is cheap in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Cirrus_Driver]

I have a new 14 polaris 600 rmk. When I brougjt it in to dealer for 150 mile check out, I questioned the oil use. I had calculated it out to be 60:1. Wanted dealer to increase oil flow. They put in a CASE to polaris tech. The response was The oil use varies significantly depending on throttle use. At idle it can be as low as 90or100:1 up to running WOT usage rate of 40:1 and any ratio in between dependant on throttle.
So that is Polaris take on it. Personally I am seriously considering turning up oil pump. Going to recalculate usage once we get a little more snow and am running it a little harder. In the meantime I am continuing to add some oil to the gas to ensure at least the top end is getting lubed
I would also greatly appreciate any feedback on this topic, and my approach to it.
THANK YOU in advance.

I was told the same thing when I questioned low oil usage on a Poo 6. I'd like to think Poo engineers are more intelligent regarding design/performance of their product than I, but apparently others disagree.

 

[sweeperguy]

I was told the same thing when I questioned low oil usage on a Poo 6. I'd like to think Poo engineers are more intelligent regarding design/performance of their product than I, but apparently others disagree.

My concern is not their intelligence but that they are more worried about the EPA than they are about longevity of their product. They can always sell more sleds,but I may not always be able to buy new would like this to last as long as possible

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Disagree with you there DS! Once a 2S plug is fouled, it's shot and should be thrown away.

Really didn't know that, guess I'll buy some new their not that expensive. Always figured cleaning was good enough.

 

[srt20]

I haven't fouled a plug on a CFI yet. Neither has any of my riding buds. One buds sled is around 28-1. I never checked any of my sleds ratios exactly, but they are all turned up and getting plenty of oil. I'd guess around 32-1 ish range.

 

[Cirrus_Driver]

My concern is not their intelligence but that they are more worried about the EPA than they are about longevity of their product. They can always sell more sleds,but I may not always be able to buy new would like this to last as long as possible

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The implication is they are willing to accept a percentage of blown motors, and sacrifice customer quality satisfaction, just to meet EPA regs. Don't believe that for second.
They are well aware of market perception, and it's highly cynical to believe they would jeopardize further market share with continuing problems due to insufficient oil injection.

 

[srt20]

My concern is not their intelligence but that they are more worried about the EPA than they are about longevity of their product. They can always sell more sleds,but I may not always be able to buy new would like this to last as long as possible

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The implication is they are willing to accept a percentage of blow motors, and sacrifice customer quality satisfaction, just to meet EPA regs. Don't believe that for second.

What snowmobile manufacturer has had the most amount of bad PR from engine reliability in the last 10 years? That manufacturer also has the least amount of hp in the 800cc class.

Which manufacturer has "arguably" has had the most reliable 800cc engine in that same time frame? Another hint, they also have the dirtiest engines from an EPA standing. And probably the most HP too.

 

[raceinsnow]

So naive, Polaris dosn't care about your sled after the first year. They know that 2 strokes need oil to live and they hope the sleds don't last that long so that you need to buy more. I am suprised that there has not beed a law suit over the 10 years of junk big bore motors coming apart. And don't think you are immune to motor problems because you have a 600, the cfi 600s are starting to have the same issues.

 

[sweeperguy]

The implication is they are willing to accept a percentage of blow motors, and sacrifice customer quality satisfaction, just to meet EPA regs. Don't believe that for second.

That is exactly what I'm saying. IMO their recent issues with 800's is either proof, or food for thought at the very least.

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So naive, Polaris dosn't care about your sled after the first year. They know that 2 strokes need oil to live and they hope the sleds don't last that long so that you need to buy more. I am suprised that there has not beed a law suit over the 10 years of junk big bore motors coming apart. And don't think you are immune to motor problems because you have a 600, the cfi 600s are starting to have the same issues.

Exactly why I'm looking to turn up oil, want mine to be a SURVIVOR, not a statistic.

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What snowmobile manufacturer has had the most amount of bad PR from engine reliability in the last 10 years? That manufacturer also has the least amount of hp in the 800cc class.

Which manufacturer has "arguably" has had the most reliable 800cc engine in that same time frame? Another hint, they also have the dirtiest engines from an EPA standing. And probably the most HP too.

Can you answer this? (In bold) I know the answer to the first.

 

[groomerdriver]

Really didn't know that, guess I'll buy some new their not that expensive. Always figured cleaning was good enough.

Read in some tech magazine somewhere that when a plug fouls it arcs through the porcelain (sp?) and once it does that it's no longer a reliable plug. Like you said, they're cheap in the grand scheme of things. Why take a chance?

 

[bcorn]

I would turn the pump up, I have a 2010 700 rmk I turned it up till I was getting 34:1 haven't had any problems with plugs fouling. Alittle extra oil isn't going to hurt.

 

[srt20]

That is exactly what I'm saying. IMO their recent issues with 800's is either proof, or food for thought at the very least.

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Exactly why I'm looking to turn up oil, want mine to be a SURVIVOR, not a statistic.

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Can you answer this? (In bold) I know the answer to the first.

Arctic Cat

 

[sweeperguy]

Arctic Cat

No wonder they're expensive, but I guess you get what you pay for.