yeah they know about how long it has to last the average consumer under warranty . then they know they will line back up to drop another 13g . turn up the pump or add a splash on every tank . 50to 1 all around
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yeah they know about how long it has to last the average consumer under warranty . then they know they will line back up to drop another 13g . turn up the pump or add a splash on every tank . 50to 1 all around
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cat has had the most durable 800 no question. but they have been taking HP away big time in the last few yrs .the 162 days are long gone in stock forum luck to see 155now. doo has had the most HP for last few yrs . but they are also historically a time bomb the isoflex solution just has not worked out as a replacement for a good old fashioned oily gas bathArctic Cat
sweeperguy
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The implication is they are willing to accept a percentage of blown motors, and sacrifice customer quality satisfaction, just to meet EPA regs. Don't believe that for second.
They are well aware of market perception, and it's highly cynical to believe they would jeopardize further market share with continuing problems due to insufficient oil injection.
In post #21 the quote came up like this above due to bad editing of quotes in earlier posts #13. I DID NOT POST THIS STATEMENT It was xxx007 post And in post #14 the top half above ""updated" was mine but below "updated" was xxx007
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sweeperguy
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my bad
Actually no not YOUR bad, if it'd been properly edited when posted as a quote earlier it'd be all good.
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Cirrus_Driver
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I believe an intelligent, attentive owner of those supposed "time-bomb" 800/600 CFI's, who take time to properly warm up motor, and don't blast to red line on take off, will have no problem with these motors.
I've never had one single engine issue with a 600 CFI, or other Poo.
I've never had one single engine issue with a 600 CFI, or other Poo.
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If you take a newer Pol engine apart you will notice that the pistons don't even look like pistons anymore. About all they are is ring holders. There is very little side area left. This makes them very light. That way the cranks can be lighter also. That enables a quicker revving more responsive engine. However without a more traditional piston the cylinder bore will tend to egg out a lot sooner no matter what or how much oil you use. This is how they are designed. They are not a long term engine. For most customers it does not matter. Pol knows the average miles put on in a season. For the vast majority of snowmobilers the engine will last 3 seasons and by then it will be time to trade anyway. Most of the folks on this site are not average snowmobilers and ride many more miles than average. That is why this is even a topic at all.
B.S. I have seen baseball size holes in cases of totally anal guys with under 2k mi on them the liberty 800 is a time bombI believe an intelligent, attentive owner of those supposed "time-bomb" 800/600 CFI's, who take time to properly warm up motor, and don't blast to red line on take off, will have no problem with these motors.
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Cirrus_Driver
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Really.... so because 1-2 of your riding buds had a problem with an 800, that means they are ALL ticking time bombs. Total anecdotal evidence doesn't work here. You follow your buds around everywhere to see how they take care of their 800's? I wouldn't be calling BS unless I had facts to back it up. My son claims his buds family have 2-2012 800 Rushs and never a problem - big miles. Anecdotal evidence doesn't work for me there either.
So if someone has the facts, statistical analysis showing failures of 800 motors as % of sales, for Doo and Poo, I'd love to see them. Was thinking of buying one - some great deals out there.
So if someone has the facts, statistical analysis showing failures of 800 motors as % of sales, for Doo and Poo, I'd love to see them. Was thinking of buying one - some great deals out there.
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raceinsnow
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Really.... so because 1-2 of your riding buds had a problem with an 800, that means they are ALL ticking time bombs. Total anecdotal evidence doesn't work here. You follow your buds around everywhere to see how they take care of their 800's? I wouldn't be calling BS unless I had facts to back it up. My son claims his buds family have 2-2012 800 Rushs and never a problem - big miles. Anecdotal evidence doesn't work for me there either.
What kind of facts would you like because I can give them to you. Your head must be stuck in a hole because the information is out there.There is only one way that I know of to make a polaris 800 motor live and its not with polaris parts.
I was told the same thing when I questioned low oil usage on a Poo 6. I'd like to think Poo engineers are more intelligent regarding design/performance of their product than I, but apparently others disagree.
EPA limits the oil usage, not the engineering requirements.
groomerdriver
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There is only one way that I know of to make a polaris 800 motor live and its not with polaris parts.
Well known factoid there. Becareful raceinsnow, XXX007 is a master baiter.
Are you saying he is really good at putting a worm on a hook, or setting up a great mousetrap? Cool, but not sure what is has to do with oil consumption.XXX007 is a master baiter.
polarisrider1
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You guys ..... never mind. Lol. ( the dumbing down of this site has been incredible ). Mean while Skylar is pounding his 800 Poo pretty hard out west and it is still together. And here we sit reading drivel.
polarisrider1
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As far as oil consumption, I'm not sure if the 600 Poo has an adjustment for oil. On my 12 Poo 800 pro I turned my oil up. There is a utube video showing how to do it. Pretty simple. I have 3400 mtn. Miles and another 600 Michigan miles and no issues. (4000 miles). My buds got new 800R motors at the 4000 mile marks. Doo is pretty good at keeping that quiet.
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Exactly. I ask for facts, and nobody can present them, so I call all anecdotal evidence and emotional rhetoric for one of the top 2 manufacturers, of course there's gonna be more problems - they sell a lot of sleds.You guys ..... never mind. Lol. ( the dumbing down of this site has been incredible ). Mean while Skylar is pounding his 800 Poo pretty hard out west and it is still together. And here we sit reading drivel.
I should just rest my case, but I'm genuinely interested. How many 800 CFI Poo's are in service, maybe 50,000-100,000 units, and what's the number of engine failure's due to proven, documented piston failure. (realize there are countless variables here) If we can't find those numbers, then it's all heresay rhetoric.
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Cirrus_Driver
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Very creative insult....but I'm still waiting for mathematical analysis (see prev post) to back up your "well known factoid'. Seriously - no joke.Well known factoid there. Becareful raceinsnow, XXX007 is a master baiter.
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Nobody will ever know what percentage of 800's have gone down. Pol might have warranty claim numbers but they would never release such info. After warranty runs out there is no way to make an educated guess on how many failures have happened. So it is all smoke in the wind and always will be. I would never buy one anyway because I am a Cat guy. Cat guys buy Cats. Doo guys buy Doo's. Yami guys buy Yamis. And Pol guys buy Pols no matter if other guys call them junk. It has always been this way. This is just the latest chapter. Ain't sledding fun???
polarisrider1
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it would be fun sledding IF we had good snow to ride on!!!
If I can get in one good Canada trip and one good Wyoming trip this year. ....I will do the settle for.