Open Up Oil Reserves!

[900kingcat162]

is the USA the only country building cars?did not think so and they have been paying top $ in other parts of the world for ever. I have been to Europe more than once and rented a car every time and never seen a gas citron or a fiesta Opel that got 50 . they have no BS EPA so most people run small1 L diesel cars and small diesel suv like the Suzuki or rave 4 diesel.I rented a Lexus suv with a diesel if I could get one in USA would have had one yrs ago but the EPA wont allow it.but they will allow huge diesel tractors that get no mileage to plant/fertilizer made from petroleum/pick corn to make E85 prob that 1 tractor uses way more fuel than 80 Lexus or 150 Suzuki trucks but that is a inconvenient truth

ezra,
actually new tractors these days are more fuel efficient than ANY automobile on the road today. The technology in tractors has always been at least 20 years or more ahead of the automobile. I can prove my point with technical tractor jargain if you wish, or you could take my word for it.

 

[900kingcat162]

the real answer is to burn hydrogen.

 

[beakjones]

I like the parts about how ethanol doesn't give out more energy that it takes to make. Uhhh, yea.... nothing does.... I realize oil gives us more than it takes to get it out of the ground but.... how did it get in the ground? yea, life... where living beings consume resources and give back less than they take.

 

[bearrassler]

"wind power, which is a lot more expensive than coal power"? How short sided are you????? The inital cost is there to install the wind farm, but after 3 to 8 years, the energy is free minus the cost of a once a year service. I am sure that a coal plant needs NO MAITENANCE WHATSOEVER. I am not a hippie tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination, but this seems like a no brainer to me.

While the wind may be free, wind power is far from free. We do have a lot of wind farms in ND and I am not an expert but I do know a few people that work in the Wind Energy field, the service is a lot more that once a year, and there is a lot more maintenence and costs besides that. I never said that a coal plant needs no maintenence, just that coal power is a lot cheaper than wind power.

Obviously not a farmer. You just cannot keep planting corn in the same field year after year. A farmer does not decide "well, corn is up, we'll plant all corn this year." It does not work that way. Crops must be rotated year by year. I myself am not a farmer, but my father in law is and I did ask him one time when beans where about $12.00 and corn was $4.00 why he did not just plant all beans. The fields need to be rotated so the nutrients can be replenished for the best yields. (A lot more technical jargin, but that is the jist of it)

I am not a farmer but I do know quite a bit about farming, I never said that you would plant corn year after year. Where I am from we do crop rotation with more than just corn and soybeans. Instead of corn every 3 or 4 years you might plant it every other year.

Problem here is there is NO such thing as domestic oil because oil is sold internationally and the crude pumped next to your backhouse costs just as much as the stuff shipped in from some sandy place in the Mediterranean. We don't have two prices....one price all over the world.

While ethanol doesn't pack as much punch, ultimately it does provide another source for fuel and that along with ever increasingly cheaper methods to grow corn with genetic engineering, and refining processes...makes this a better and better choice all the time. Once we start building equipment to use it improve refining techniques, and cut down travel expenses to get it shipped around by placing plants closer to the users...this fuel is looking better and better all the time.

I agree domestic oil is priced on the world market but if you think domestic corn isn't priced the same way you are mistaken. When oil is produced in the USA there is a lot of local jobs, tax revenue for the state, it helps our balance of trade and it is good for national security. North Dakota oil production is expanding, our unemployment rate is under 4% and have many job openings, we have been running budget surpluses, our housing values continue to rise, and our average income has risen the most of any state, it is not all from oil but it is a big part of our economy. There are many states that have oil and allowing more drilling could help all of their economy's.

 

[catman66]

Opening the reserves is only a temporary fix, the prices we are paying at the pump is due to the big wigs on wall street ( rich keep getting richer you know ), they see a little unrest in the middle east and start to worry, driving our prices up. Rumor has been told that Libya only accounts for 2% of our oil supply and also heard that right now we are inporting more oil into the us than ever before. Maybe the big guy running this country should step in and do something with wall street. just my 2 cents worth.

 

[arctiva]

My point of view is over the last 15 years or so.
E-85 has come out
More Ethanol in Pump gas up to 15%??
Cars and trucks have gotten more fuel eficient
Electric cars are out there
Limited natarual gas and propane cars are out there
More EPA regulations

And yet with all those cost saveings and less oil useing products gas is at 3.49 a gallon versus back in 1999 or was it 2000? when there was no other options beside gas and cars and trucks got in general crappy mileage gas was what 89 cents a gallon?? And we sitt and really have to wonder why gas/oil is so exspensive?

My general opinion is the less oil/gas we use the more were going to pay for the less we use untill we dont use it anymore and then that cost will just be put somewheres else. get the most $$$ as long as you can while oil is in demand its simple bussiness. And when all cars use electric guess what that does to the electric rates? When all cars use natural gas guess what that does to home heating bills?

Diesel is a perfect example very little refineing involved in makeing diesel. Back in the day when mileage sucked and they were dirty polluters no one wanted them and diesel was cheaper than gas. Now there cleaner get better mileage and are more popular and yet its been more exspensive than gas for years. And when did Bio fuel/or people figuire out they could use vegtable oil to run a diesel?

We can complain about till were blue in the face but unless you dont wanna drive i guess its buck up pay it and move on with less $$$ in your pocket just like everyone else..

 

[bobsledder]

I am a farmer

I am a farmer and we do look at what crop may be the most profitable. There are some advantages of crop rotations however in my area corn may be grown following corn for many years. Growing soybeans after soybeans is less desirable due to plant disease and insects. Areas of South America grow soybeans after soybeans for many years as there climate and infrastructure isn’t adequate to support other crops.

Agriculture is a very complicated, expensive and risky venture, we don’t throw out some seeds and wait for a great harvest and make great profit yearly. Just sayen

As I have said ethanol is not the perfect end all to the energy debate, but it is part of what will provide portable energy accessible through our current delivery system.
Bob

 

[rocketman356]

Obama is full of sheet

 

[frnash]

Amazing new fuel?

Amazing new fuel?
See the video (wmv, 2m + 35s).
<hr width="75%" size="2">Tuesday, March 15, 2011:
I received a link to the above video via email — a common source of less than credible information.

Now that I've let you contemplate the notion of an "Amazing new fuel" for a while, it's time for a dose of science:

There is just a wee problem with proposing to fuel an automobile with hydrogen or a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen (sometimes called "oxyhydrogen", "HHO", or "Brown's Gas") by the electrolysis of water

Since the combustion step is the exact reverse of the electrolysis step, the energy released in combustion exactly equals the energy consumed in the electrolysis step, and—even assuming 100% efficiency—there would be no energy left over to power the car. In other words, such systems start and end in the same thermodynamic state, and are therefore the thermodynamic equivalent of perpetual motion machines, violating the first law of thermodynamics.

Furthermore, under actual conditions in which hydrogen is burned, efficiency is limited by the second law of thermodynamics and is likely to be around 20%. More energy is therefore required to drive the electrolysis cell than can be extracted from burning the resulting hydrogen-oxygen mixture.

"And now you know — the rest of the story." as Paul Harvey might have said.

 

[luke_duke]

See the video (wmv, 2m + 35s).

Sounds great. Just surprised this guy is living yet. Not that what he was doing is dangerous, but figured someone would of eliminated the threat.

 

[swanee]

Thanks frnash. His website is here if anyone wants more info. http://www.hytechapps.com/

 

[tnehlsen]

think that video is from 2006 ish. Not a new idea.

 

[frnash]

think that video is from 2006 ish. Not a new idea.

Also not too credible, see my original post, edited today.

 

[anonomoose]

Amazing new fuel?

There is just a wee problem with proposing to fuel an automobile with hydrogen or a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen (sometimes called "oxyhydrogen", "HHO", or "Brown's Gas") by the electrolysis of water

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I happen to be very proud of my OWN production of this stuff....but it often comes after eating too much broccoli.....or bean soup!!

 

[anonomoose]

Is anyone else a little more than curious as to why the price of oil seemingly jumps to set levels and stays there?

I mean shouldn't the price go up and down more drastically as the volatility of the supply becomes evident, causing the price to fluctuate at a much greater scale?

I swear that this stuff is rigged and we are the recipients of a very long April fools day joke. One this is NOT funny.

Let me look in the book....oh, unrest in the middle east...says the price should jump to 100 per barrel. Oh, no....Libia under attack...book says price of oil goes up 5 more dollars and stays there. What consumers using less oil....book says...ignore that process....oil stay up. White House energy policy....NONE! Oil companies, 1....White House zero.

You would think that they would mask this process to a much greater degree. Even Bernie Madoff...knew that much.

While I am down here and bent over...anyone else need more vasoline???

 

[anonomoose]

Weekly chart oil prices.

 

[lenny]

Is anyone else a little more than curious as to why the price of oil seemingly jumps to set levels and stays there?

I mean shouldn't the price go up and down more drastically as the volatility of the supply becomes evident, causing the price to fluctuate at a much greater scale?

I swear that this stuff is rigged and we are the recipients of a very long April fools day joke. One this is NOT funny.

Let me look in the book....oh, unrest in the middle east...says the price should jump to 100 per barrel. Oh, no....Libia under attack...book says price of oil goes up 5 more dollars and stays there. What consumers using less oil....book says...ignore that process....oil stay up. White House energy policy....NONE! Oil companies, 1....White House zero.

You would think that they would mask this process to a much greater degree. Even Bernie Madoff...knew that much.

While I am down here and bent over...anyone else need more vasoline???

I can't afford vaseline anymore. It's no wonder when you watch people walking down the street they walk a bit funny. There also seems to be a shortage of vaseline.

 

[ranlam]

Drop a nuke bomb on them american hating ...... devide oil with super powers, screw everybody else.

 

[ffemt]

Is there a way we can keep the water heated so it doesn't freeze in our sleds ??? hahahaIdea. Or collect snow in the tunnel melt it for fuel.

 

[eagle1]

Drop a nuke bomb on them american hating ...... devide oil with super powers, screw everybody else.

Agree, were always over there anyways policing the world, might as well run it.

Seen this yesterday, maybe we can make our own oil, that would be awesome.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110331/bs_afp/spainenergyalternativeenvironmentresearch