packers

[xcr440]

A little but not far off topic:

I was in Point last night for my company x-mas party, and we left with about 7 minutes left in the second quarter heading back to the hotel, and WOW, there was NOBODY on hwy 10 heading east. I mean we saw 3 cars in 3 miles!! It was like a ghost town!! You Packer fans sure are loyal.

But don't walk down the hall of the Holiday Inn with a Vikings coat on the morning after a Packer playoff loss, man the dirty looks I got today!!

 

[snocrazy]

OK. Lets start off by saying that I can deal with the loss if they actually got beat by a better team. Dont get me wrong the 49ers are a great team but if MCCarthy and Dom Capers would ever get their heads out of their asses and use the talent they have the Packers would be unstoppable. IMO the coaching staff at Green Bay is inadequate and cant adapt to changing their game plan if something isnt working.AKA why in the **** dont they go to the quick slant over the middle that works everytime, roll out Aaron out of the pocket when the whole game he either cant see the guys open or he doesnt have time to get it to them.Thats just to name a few. Like I said I can deal with the loss but showup and play the game , better yet COACHES get the team prepared ....OUT.....

One of my Packer backer friends feels the same way you do. He started talking about that to the other backers and they all seemed to turn on him real quick. You are not alone.

 

[timo]

HOlY Crap???? I thought bears fans were the only ones good at making excuses....
Don't know what you're reading none of us our making excuses. We go beat handily, just giving opinions on why we got beat.

 

[jerkbait_1075]

All I was trying to say was the following:

Capers and McCarthy need to go, get their head out of canvanous reagions, ect==== Fire Lovie Smith and What the H$#L is wrong with tice

We pretty much gave them 7 points, ==== We'll heck Cutler gives the packers at least 7 points when the bears and pack play

McCarthy and Rogers need to "target the middle that works everytime" while I totally agree with you === Heck the bears dont even have a middle

To Me I just saw a lot of similarites in the things that bears fan complain about....... Thats all..... Sorry to fart in your cheese curds......

 

[whitedust]

HOlY Crap???? I thought bears fans were the only ones good at making excuses.... The packer D is getting more and more exposed, each year and especially throughout this season. Rodgers is still one of the best if not the best QB in the league. To try and say that the packers are definetivly the better team IMO is a stretch or they would of won last night plan and simple. Good Luck next year. One things for sure. The pack better find a way to protect Rodgers or he is no better than Kapernick regarding how much risk he is at. Actually its just plain hard to believe how durable Rodgers has been. I mean all those sacks and not one injury, even minor that would knock him out for a game or two. It truely is amazing. Repetition and age becomes very hard on every player in the NFL and Rodgers is not going to be any different. All these hits add up and make the risk even greater for injury each year.

Very odd response IMO "Excuses"?? Both teams Bears & Packers need improvement & different opinions of what is needed & how to do it. I don't get the "Excuses" comment??

 

[jerkbait_1075]

Boy? Why do I bother? I dont understand how I get in these debates.

AGREED both teams do need the attention you mention. We agree on that. "EXCUSES"??? What I mean, and to me, when a problem is apparent (in this case we agree that there are obvious problems on both teams) and the problem fails to be addressed (which both teams have done), then to continue to do the same thing year after year, with the same negative results and "provide reasons, justifications," for the continued poor results, is to provide "EXCUSES" for your poor attention to the problem...... This applies to Managment and owners as well as fans.....

Maybe i'm taking too much cough medicine.....

 

[whitedust]

Boy? Why do I bother? I dont understand how I get in these debates.

AGREED both teams do need the attention you mention. We agree on that. "EXCUSES"??? What I mean, and to me, when a problem is apparent (in this case we agree that there are obvious problems on both teams) and the problem fails to be addressed (which both teams have done), then to continue to do the same thing year after year, with the same negative results and "provide reasons, justifications," for the continued poor results, is to provide "EXCUSES" for your poor attention to the problem...... This applies to Managment and owners as well as fans.....

Maybe i'm taking too much cough medicine.....

The Bears fired Lovie so that team excuse is gone using your words. No idea who or what system in future for Bears? Green Bay coaching staff openly admitts what needs improvement & gets pretty good results so I just don't agree with term "excuse" & how it applies to Green Bay. The Green Bay D was much improved this year over last year & 49ers have ability same as Seahawks to put up huge O numbers when they get rolling. Entire NFL D will be working on how to stop QB run /throw options just best new O thing out there now & why I like football always changing.

 

[snoughnut]

The Bears fired Lovie so that team excuse is gone using your words. No idea who or what system in future for Bears? Green Bay coaching staff openly admitts what needs improvement & gets pretty good results so I just don't agree with term "excuse" & how it applies to Green Bay. The Green Bay D was much improved this year over last year & 49ers have ability same as Seahawks to put up huge O numbers when they get rolling. Entire NFL D will be working on how to stop QB run /throw options just best new O thing out there now & why I like football always changing.

Keep in mind that the Packers D would have been much improved but with Desmond Bishop, DJ Smith, Nick Perry and Jerel Worthy all injured, that was a pretty big blow to our defense.

 

[sledboy482]

Jerkbait is right on his assertion about our team. I do feel, however that we need to fire Capers and go back to a 4-3 defense. I like th concept of the 3-4, but we do not have the big (not FAT) defensive linemen needed to run that front group with just three guys. Our offensive line and Defensive lines both need some upgrades. We also need to get a halfback! This crap of 2 or 3 guys sharing the duties for a couple games at a time sucks! I also think we need someone who is faster than AJ Hawk to chase TEs down the field. He's a great team player and a good linebacker, but he cannot run fast enough-never could. I like the idea of bringing in Lovie Smith or Romeo Crinell in as Defensive coordinator. Packers were completely out played Saturday night. I don't know how they can say they weren't aware that Kaeppernick could run that well before the game began. I also don't know how you cannot give one guy the assignment to shadow him the entire game. Oh well, at least we can all go snowmobiling! Err-wait a minute............

HOlY Crap???? I thought bears fans were the only ones good at making excuses.... The packer D is getting more and more exposed, each year and especially throughout this season. Rodgers is still one of the best if not the best QB in the league. To try and say that the packers are definetivly the better team IMO is a stretch or they would of won last night plan and simple. Good Luck next year. One things for sure. The pack better find a way to protect Rodgers or he is no better than Kapernick regarding how much risk he is at. Actually its just plain hard to believe how durable Rodgers has been. I mean all those sacks and not one injury, even minor that would knock him out for a game or two. It truely is amazing. Repetition and age becomes very hard on every player in the NFL and Rodgers is not going to be any different. All these hits add up and make the risk even greater for injury each year.

 

[G]

All teams are nicked up by this time of the season. Some fare better than others when nicked. It does not seem to affect the Patriots much if at all. They just plug in the next guy. It speaks to the depth, the drafting and the overall system. Very few teams are built like the Patriots though. Players routinely play for a little less to play for the Pats in hopes they will win the big one. I cant stand Belicheat and Tom Brady makes me want to puke but you have to admit they are successful.

 

[jerkbait_1075]

Your right the bears fired lovie smith. However I gurantee you, having been a long time bears fan the management, coaching, players and even us fans will come up with a list of "excuses" to try and justify the the problems, whatever problems arise next year. Its the nature of it.

Really when it all comes down to it, coaching isssues, injury issues, player depth/execusion issues, is really all just a bunch of "would a, could a, should a" BS regardless whether it comes out a a coaches mouth or fans mouth. The bottom line is the team that as a whole is better coached, has better depth, better a playing through injuries, better management, better player exexusion, ect, ect is the better team and ussually the team that ends up in the championship game. I MEAN JUST LOOK AT THE PACKERS WHEN THE WON THE SUPER BOWL JUST A COUPLE YEARS AGO. All those things describe that team to the letter. If it really were as simple as to not knowing how to defend a running QB? We'll if that was the case, as some of you have mentioned eventually somebody will defensively figure how to do so. Does that mean if it is any other defensive coordinator ohter than Capers figures it out that they (the packers) are still be better team (as a whole, not just defensive coach)? Clearly the answer to that would have to be "no" that the packers aren't the better team or they would have been the one to stop it.

Im just saying you Win as a Team, you lose as a Team... When the Packers won the super bowl TONS of things were wrong and against them that year. The perserveerd and won the super bowl. At that time in History they were the better team, Right now, Maybe not so much

look I didnt mean to offend any packer fans at all. Sorry if i did.... I was just trying to relate that I believed there to be a likeness in some of the issues facing the Pack and my Team the Bears.

And not for one minute am I going to try and argue the Bears are better, or the Packers better look out next year.... No Way.... While I dont like the Pack, I am very enveous as a whole or the packer talent, the ability to recognize and develop talent, Rodgers the best QB in league, so on and so on....

 

[whitedust]

You got to go to war with what you have & can make changes thru trades, free agency,draft & waviers + fire coach. Even if you can get better talent it will take time to learn to play together as a team & learn new systems. Bears are a mess currently like driverless truck until new head coach & other coaches are hired. No 1 person has the answer to the QB run /pass option now but D coahes will watch film & start seeing what works & go from there.