Ski doo 800 e tec piston recal

[polarisrider1]

Wow Lenny, your on a roll tonight.

 

[russholio]

Indeed. Spot-on analysis, Lenny.

 

[ezra]

I am thinking that those e-tec motors 600 or 800 will have problems with lots of miles on them. You need oil to lubricate things. Just saying.

are u saying a small dab of grease in a sealed bearing spinning around 125 times per second is not a good idea and wont last for ever ? who would have thunk it.

 

[russholio]

Is there such a thing as an engine that does last forever, be it 2s or 4s? That "small dab of grease" lasted for the 10,000 miles that I had my 600 SDI. Haven't heard from the guy that I sold it to that it gave up the ghost so I assume it's still going.

Etecs have been out several years now, so if they're going to have failures I'd think they'll start showing up.

 

[dfattack]

What Lenny said....

 

[lenny]

Is there such a thing as an engine that does last forever, be it 2s or 4s? That "small dab of grease" lasted for the 10,000 miles that I had my 600 SDI. Haven't heard from the guy that I sold it to that it gave up the ghost so I assume it's still going.

Etecs have been out several years now, so if they're going to have failures I'd think they'll start showing up.

nope, but an oil pump pumping oil to vital bearings would be ideal. I doubt Doo enginerred sealed bearing because they thought they were better. I am sure the EPA is responsible for them having to go this route. Heat is a real killer but if a guy takes good care of a machine with proper maint he will get the best service. Sounds like you took good care of your sled. A blown belt can cause damage to the seal on the pto side and than it's up for grabs for contamination or for grease to seep out

Etecs are blowing up but not anything unusual, typical of 2 strokes

 

[rmk58]

Hi all. I have a friend that drives ski doo so I have nothing against any brand. I myself like polaris but do own a yamaha only because I crashed it so I bought it. The only correct thing to do. Probably the only reason I go polaris is because I know an ex racer of polaris that I have work on my machines. He does not do alot of work on other brands. And his brother raced ski doo. He kind of said that a motor needs enough oil or a certain amount to do the correct lubricating. So that is where I came up with that oil thought. Now the SDI`s use more oil than does the E-Tec`s. But lenny is got it right on.
Happy Trails to all.

 

[momoney2123]

Do you need some yellow kool aid to go with those yellow pom poms?

Id take yellow kool aid ive never had it. actually I have black pom pom's tho. The statement was factual no matter how much it disapoints you.

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nope, but an oil pump pumping oil to vital bearings would be ideal. I doubt Doo enginerred sealed bearing because they thought they were better. I am sure the EPA is responsible for them having to go this route. Heat is a real killer but if a guy takes good care of a machine with proper maint he will get the best service. Sounds like you took good care of your sled. A blown belt can cause damage to the seal on the pto side and than it's up for grabs for contamination or for grease to seep out

Etecs are blowing up but not anything unusual, typical of 2 strokes

Lenny thats a good point with the sealed bearings and EPA......

 

[russholio]

nope, but an oil pump pumping oil to vital bearings would be ideal. I doubt Doo enginerred sealed bearing because they thought they were better. I am sure the EPA is responsible for them having to go this route. Heat is a real killer but if a guy takes good care of a machine with proper maint he will get the best service. Sounds like you took good care of your sled. A blown belt can cause damage to the seal on the pto side and than it's up for grabs for contamination or for grease to seep out

Etecs are blowing up but not anything unusual, typical of 2 strokes

Lenny, you're right on all points. Yes, I take care of my sleds. But I also don't ride them like I stole them and/or mod them to the hilt. Not criticizing those who do, but I don't think either of them contribute much to the longevity of the machine (of any brand). The "you wanna play, you gotta pay" cliche into play here.

The only bearing failure I've ever had was because of a blown belt the previous season on my 2000 MXZ 600. Had I known then that blown belts were hazardous to PTO bearings, I would have checked it out. But alas, I didn't know as much then and thought that a blown belt was just a blown belt.

 

[whitedust]

I think it's a shame that any brand continues to have basic mechanical issues after so many years of development. I am brand loyal...no doubt. My brand doesn't have these types of issues at all and I'm talking basic mechanical issues...internal engine parts. I'm not an expert mechanic but it would seem to me in the year 2013 some of the basic mechanical issues shouldn't be happening on a 2 day old sled as we can read in another thread on this site. I would hope that all manufacturers can get their stuff together so we could compare technology to technology instead of comparing who's breaks down more often. I don't really want everyone riding the same machine as me...that would be boring. I think the Doo's look cool, not as nice as what I have, but would consider them if my brand went out of business. It's disappointing to find out one of the largest manufacturers if not the largest cannot get the motor right when other brands can. They obviously can get suspension right. Now just get an engine that can last.

Right on we think alike!.....I could find a doo 4s in their lineup if I had too pass on Yamaha if not available but no 2nd place in sales it is a win or lose no ties or 2nd place. I don't buy doo 4s because out classed by Yamaha but maybe doo will have more of what I wnat in coming years. No way to know but I'm open to new products by all Oems.

 

[lenny]

sometimes a bad experience is an isolated incident. I mean it's not like doo has a big concern like cat does with the 1100 belts,,,lol,,now that's a disaster and would anyone disagree? Or even reverse on the 4s

 

[ezra]

on a side note any one see what jan snowest had to say about the new freeride? something like.[perhaps the best all mountain backcountry snowmobile ever made] bold statement there.

 

[vmax1994]

on a side note any one see what jan snowest had to say about the new freeride? something like.[perhaps the best all mountain backcountry snowmobile ever made] bold statement there.

Yeah I saw it. I want one! Just converted my MxzX 800Etec to my own version of one. Stretched it to 137", put on a 2" paddle, 8" risers, sway bar disconnect.

 

[momoney2123]

on a side note any one see what jan snowest had to say about the new freeride? something like.[perhaps the best all mountain backcountry snowmobile ever made] bold statement there.

I seen the article didnt get a chance to read the whole thing. That is a bold statement. Allover this site seems a strong #3 rating from people for the summit/freeride mountain sled. I have yet to see them rated #3 by the 'experts'. Everything ive read has the freeride as the mountain sled to beat. Most here say the RMK........good news for ski-doo. those who said there focus on trail sleds is suffering the mountain category, not according to the experts.

Copy and pasted this below

Mountain Snowmobile of the Year
2014 Ski-Doo Freeride



The Ski-Doo Freeride 154 and 146 are agile, nimble, backcountry tough and all XM. Their 16-inch wide FlexEdge tracks give the Freeride 154 and 146 superb flotation.


Last year Ski-Doo’s XM Summit X shared the podium with Polaris’ RMK Pro 155. This year the top honor goes to the 2014 Ski-Doo Freeride 154, with honorable mention to its smaller-length brother, the 146. Ski-Doo’s Freeride 154 and 146 are both built on the XM RS chassis.

 

[lenny]

I seen the article didnt get a chance to read the whole thing. That is a bold statement. Allover this site seems a strong #3 rating from people for the summit/freeride mountain sled. I have yet to see them rated #3 by the 'experts'. Everything ive read has the freeride as the mountain sled to beat. Most here say the RMK........good news for ski-doo. those who said there focus on trail sleds is suffering the mountain category, not according to the experts.

Copy and pasted this below

Mountain Snowmobile of the Year
2014 Ski-Doo Freeride



The Ski-Doo Freeride 154 and 146 are agile, nimble, backcountry tough and all XM. Their 16-inch wide FlexEdge tracks give the Freeride 154 and 146 superb flotation.


Last year Ski-Doo’s XM Summit X shared the podium with Polaris’ RMK Pro 155. This year the top honor goes to the 2014 Ski-Doo Freeride 154, with honorable mention to its smaller-length brother, the 146. Ski-Doo’s Freeride 154 and 146 are both built on the XM RS chassis.

yup, there's a first time everything. Up until this new chassis they were not much better than a Yammi. Even so it's gonna take some time for the people to jump aboard.