Lots of ways to start a fire if stay with sleds. Get gas on dollar bills pull plug put between spark gap,pull rope & poof fire. Don't get it 1st time keep pulling get you warm trying. If I knew I was going offtrail where they seem to be I would have fire kit for sure.
!!!!!! sledders lost near silver city !!!!
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Lots of ways to start a fire if stay with sleds. Get gas on dollar bills pull plug put between spark gap,pull rope & poof fire. Don't get it 1st time keep pulling get you warm trying. If I knew I was going offtrail where they seem to be I would have fire kit for sure.
gogebictodd
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great news thanks for sharing!!they have been found! They are in good shape, dehydrated, being brought into silver city right now! They will be meeting the ambulance....great news!
Must've been pretty smart guys
a big thank you to all who helped with the rescue!
t660redrocket
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Found by Nonesuch. Probably near the back road into the porkies from White Pine. The Big Iron and Little Iron Rivers flow back there.
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anonomoose
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So that this thread isn't lost now to a simple recovery; I think that some valuable information could be put out right here and now-- that could save YOUR life if you pay attention to it.
I will start:
Always let someone know where you are going and when you will be back. Not doing that is just crazy with a hat on.
Always, take something you can use to start a fire. A good lighter is a must have. Instead of using dollar bills to light a fire, grab something that will easily light and stay light even if a bit damp. A small zip bag with some of those paraffin fireplace starters is a good start.
If you think that wading around in zero temps trying to find wood, getting sweaty and snow down your boots will help you get back to your job on tuesday, better think again. This deep snow makes gathering wood for a fire much more difficult than a campfire in the summer or late fall.
Birch bark if you can find it is a great fire starter and should be something everyone learns from experience.
This is survival training with a twist on it. Practice doing this once per year and see how tough getting a good fire going really is. Learn from it. Fire means...staying alive at night. While a small hose for drawing out some gas sounds good, it means a very quick fire and one that probably won't stay light for long.
Obviously the beacon signal would be worth the cost if you can afford it and a good cell phone so you can send a text if you are in sight of a cell tower could improve your odds of getting help to you.
Food....candy bars, health snacks, p/j sammiches all could be very important if you break down in the bush and know it will take a day or two to walk out.
Some sort of tarp, thinner is fine as long as it can keep you dry and wind off.
A good survival saw and shovel could be important too.
Remember nobody wants to spend the night camping without the right tools --- cold and wet. Better to plan and not need it than to need it and not have planned for it.
The life you save might be your own.
I will start:
Always let someone know where you are going and when you will be back. Not doing that is just crazy with a hat on.
Always, take something you can use to start a fire. A good lighter is a must have. Instead of using dollar bills to light a fire, grab something that will easily light and stay light even if a bit damp. A small zip bag with some of those paraffin fireplace starters is a good start.
If you think that wading around in zero temps trying to find wood, getting sweaty and snow down your boots will help you get back to your job on tuesday, better think again. This deep snow makes gathering wood for a fire much more difficult than a campfire in the summer or late fall.
Birch bark if you can find it is a great fire starter and should be something everyone learns from experience.
This is survival training with a twist on it. Practice doing this once per year and see how tough getting a good fire going really is. Learn from it. Fire means...staying alive at night. While a small hose for drawing out some gas sounds good, it means a very quick fire and one that probably won't stay light for long.
Obviously the beacon signal would be worth the cost if you can afford it and a good cell phone so you can send a text if you are in sight of a cell tower could improve your odds of getting help to you.
Food....candy bars, health snacks, p/j sammiches all could be very important if you break down in the bush and know it will take a day or two to walk out.
Some sort of tarp, thinner is fine as long as it can keep you dry and wind off.
A good survival saw and shovel could be important too.
Remember nobody wants to spend the night camping without the right tools --- cold and wet. Better to plan and not need it than to need it and not have planned for it.
The life you save might be your own.
arcticgeorge
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Glad they were found! Great idea starting the sled on fire in the worst case scenaro. i only paid a grand for mine so no bigge... And some large garbage bags as Ezra said for a quick wind fort.
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I saw this on FB this morning and basically joined this site because of this news.
(Been on here before but just for trail conditions)
Since you can't believe everything you read on FB I wanted to follow along just to see if it was legit and of course if they made it out alive. I honestly can't believe after a night like last night they made it, especially because of the being wet part.
I've never been quite that far up north, but I've been close and always wanted to hit Lake in the Clouds. After reading this we'll have some extra stuff along.
I always do carry a lighter and flashlight, but man, WOW it just must have been an absolutely brutal 24 hours for them. What if they didn't have cell service?!?
Definitely learned something from following this story
(Been on here before but just for trail conditions)
Since you can't believe everything you read on FB I wanted to follow along just to see if it was legit and of course if they made it out alive. I honestly can't believe after a night like last night they made it, especially because of the being wet part.
I've never been quite that far up north, but I've been close and always wanted to hit Lake in the Clouds. After reading this we'll have some extra stuff along.
I always do carry a lighter and flashlight, but man, WOW it just must have been an absolutely brutal 24 hours for them. What if they didn't have cell service?!?
Definitely learned something from following this story
snobuilder
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so riding bar to bar on a trail is the best bet then....
arcticgeorge
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Ha ha snobuilder thats not a bad point.!... Dont get everyone started on that one...lol. ..I will be packing more stuff from now on if i travel far beyond my usual area. Brutal is right! The winds were unreal last night. and temps dropped to -10 or more. Nearly -20 here. I hope they have details on how they survived.
So glad to hear they are going to be OK.
Nice list Boondocker. Just one thing. Each situation is different and there is no course of action that will always be the best, but gathering firewood is not always about looking down, or having to go too far. Many times there is plenty of firewood right at eye level or a bit above (talking mostly dead standing), sometimes not. A fire can both warm/dry you or clothes and make it much easier for S/R to find you.
And if snow getting into your boots is an issue, then that person has absolutely NO BUSINESS being anywhere off of a groomed trail or road. I have not had snow in my boots for probably 15 years now and just about every time I ride , I end up wading around in snow up to my waist and even arm pits! As was the case this past Friday!
Not trying to start an arguement, just giving more tips that might save a person in the bush.
The bottom line is folks need to be prepared always.
-John
Nice list Boondocker. Just one thing. Each situation is different and there is no course of action that will always be the best, but gathering firewood is not always about looking down, or having to go too far. Many times there is plenty of firewood right at eye level or a bit above (talking mostly dead standing), sometimes not. A fire can both warm/dry you or clothes and make it much easier for S/R to find you.
And if snow getting into your boots is an issue, then that person has absolutely NO BUSINESS being anywhere off of a groomed trail or road. I have not had snow in my boots for probably 15 years now and just about every time I ride , I end up wading around in snow up to my waist and even arm pits! As was the case this past Friday!
Not trying to start an arguement, just giving more tips that might save a person in the bush.
The bottom line is folks need to be prepared always.
-John
Another thing to consider, if you have room for it. Sometimes my wife and I like to have our lunch out on the trails (literally) so we carry a small backpacker-type single burner propane stove and a small cook set (Boy Scout style). Works great for cooking our lunches and I would imagine it would be a nice addition if we were stuck out there (though we haven't had to use it for that and hope we never do!).
I also carry firestarters I made from cardboard egg cartons, paraffin, and sawdust or dryer lint. They work great. And oh yeah, a first aid kit, too. And of course, an assortment of the ever-useful zip ties.
I also carry firestarters I made from cardboard egg cartons, paraffin, and sawdust or dryer lint. They work great. And oh yeah, a first aid kit, too. And of course, an assortment of the ever-useful zip ties.
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Just the ending we were all hoping for! I'm so relieved for everyone involved. Nice job to all helped in finding them!!!!
snobuilder
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I keep jimmy johns on speedial.
boatingbent
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So what exactly happened
I carry 3 lighters, an emergency flare, rags and a tampon to dip in gas or oil. There are tons of ways to start a fire even without a lighter or flare. Short out a battery from a flashlight or phone or sled with a wire to get spark. The survival shows on tv are fantastic. Haha! Ive been bored and tried to make fire with 2 sticks, its hard. I prefer a lighter, lol I carry lots of stuff with me and i dont venture off trail too much. But its nice to always be prepared if not for yourself then For someone else.