Some interesting news/questions that Indy has.

[indy_500]

Well, since i've ridden my sled to school a few times this year i figured i'd share this with you guys. there's this field when you leave hortonville high school that gets cut across badly and they are blaming us high schoolers for it. there's no doubt i'm the only one in a club. there's about 45 sleds on a good weather friday. The dnr has come to my school a few times checkin on our sleds and trying to convince the school to stop letting us ride. they go out and look at every sled and they open the hoods. I for one feel they don't have the right to do that. that is why i have locks on my hood. the hoods that were opened were not shut properly and it left some people mad. also, there was quite a few sleds un-registered but the school didn't "push it" (i guess i could say) to give them fines. the school is going to let us know next year (i got this info thru my club) that there will be fines given for un-registered sleds. Shouldn't they already be given fines? Can they open our hoods?

 

[yamaholic]

What's with opening the hood? Looking for your stash lol, school is private property prob why it's up to the school if they fine them..

Have a good MAIZE AND BLUE night

 

[wags]

Is there a trail that goes directly to the school?

 

[dab102999]

The only thing I know for sure is DNR can do what ever they want to. And if you don't feel that way you can fight it and take it to court and wrap a bunch of money into basically finding out the DNR can do what ever they want. As far as the hoods, probably looking for cans. Registrations, yea if they wanted to they could have gave fines right then. The fact that the school even lets you ride them is a big plus. Down here where I live (in a very farming orianted county) they will not let the kids ride there sleds in the winter. Or in the summer drive there tractors. (as I said a farming comunity) but that is a whole different story.

 

[fredster]

Here's your chance to do something good for the sport and a good learning experience. Work with your school adminstrators to set up a marked trail to either cross the field or route traffic in a desired way. This would be a win-win for all.

Regarding trail permits - they are a must. Registration too.

Not sure if DNR has the right to open your hood, I believe it's just like the police, they need just cause and it doesn't sound to me like they had any.

 

[gary_in_neenah]

Indy, I'm just down the road from you and often ride the Hortonville area. Two thoughts to share if you don't mind my 2 cents....

Registration of snowmobiles is required in Wisconsin. That money helps support our trails system and clubs. The DNR is responsible for enforcing this.

Law Enforcement needs Probable Cause to open a hood. They may have had Noise Complaints in that area and were looking at exhausts.

As to the second point, the Hortonville & Greenville areas are known as Bedroom Communities a.k.a. Urban Sprawl. A lot of people have put up some very expensive homes out there "to live in the country" and they may not appreciate the noise, regardless as to who was there first. These are the same people that may complain about the odor from neighboring farms! I know a family that live next to the Wiouwash Trail out there with a low regard for anything snowmobile related due to the noise and speed associated with our sport.

I didn't mean to preach here but I've been riding for a long, long time. One of the many lessons I learned over time is that if you're riding anywhere near a town or urban area, you need to watch your speed and noise to avoid issues like you've described.

By the way, what's the name of the place in Hortonville that serves the enormous slab of Prime Rib? I've gotta get back there...

 

[whitedust]

Kids in Phelps ride sleds on marked trails & ditch bang to school all winter. Sit down with school adminstrators & have plan to fund school property marked trails & have riders show up in force for meeting. ID problem then solve it for adminstrators & all should be AOk. DNR should not be looking under any hoods of parked sleds & locking hood is a good idea. I would let this slide for now as more important issue is a marked trail.

 

[indy_500]

The only thing I know for sure is DNR can do what ever they want to. And if you don't feel that way you can fight it and take it to court and wrap a bunch of money into basically finding out the DNR can do what ever they want. As far as the hoods, probably looking for cans. Registrations, yea if they wanted to they could have gave fines right then. The fact that the school even lets you ride them is a big plus. Down here where I live (in a very farming orianted county) they will not let the kids ride there sleds in the winter. Or in the summer drive there tractors. (as I said a farming comunity) but that is a whole different story.

it was cans they were looking for. i didn't even have a silencer/can on my 500, it's a straight little 1 in. diamater pipe coming down from the exhaust pipe lol and there's a kid that always rides his tractor to school when it's around june time.

 

[indy_500]

Is there a trail that goes directly to the school?

yes, the kwik trip is right across from the school so the trails has to go to the kwik trip but my club (greenville) was saying the hortonville club might just shut down the trail that goes into hortonville and continues to black otter lake completely down

 

[indy_500]

Kids in Phelps ride sleds on marked trails & ditch bang to school all winter. Sit down with school adminstrators & have plan to fund school property marked trails & have riders show up in force for meeting. ID problem then solve it for adminstrators & all should be AOk. DNR should not be looking under any hoods of parked sleds & locking hood is a good idea. I would let this slide for now as more important issue is a marked trail.

trail's marked right up to the school

 

[indy_500]

Indy, I'm just down the road from you and often ride the Hortonville area. Two thoughts to share if you don't mind my 2 cents....

Registration of snowmobiles is required in Wisconsin. That money helps support our trails system and clubs. The DNR is responsible for enforcing this.

Law Enforcement needs Probable Cause to open a hood. They may have had Noise Complaints in that area and were looking at exhausts.

As to the second point, the Hortonville & Greenville areas are known as Bedroom Communities a.k.a. Urban Sprawl. A lot of people have put up some very expensive homes out there "to live in the country" and they may not appreciate the noise, regardless as to who was there first. These are the same people that may complain about the odor from neighboring farms! I know a family that live next to the Wiouwash Trail out there with a low regard for anything snowmobile related due to the noise and speed associated with our sport.

I didn't mean to preach here but I've been riding for a long, long time. One of the many lessons I learned over time is that if you're riding anywhere near a town or urban area, you need to watch your speed and noise to avoid issues like you've described.

By the way, what's the name of the place in Hortonville that serves the enormous slab of Prime Rib? I've gotta get back there...

black otter supper club. 116 oz. if you eat the whole thing in less than 4 hours i think it is (i'm not sure on the time) you get it for free.

i live in greenville by the schools and that neighboorhood has been getting bigger since we built there 13 years ago. i hate all the development!

 

[yamadooed]

Skool is a public place last time I looked I pay for it in my taxes...Your under age you basically have no rights when you get older you have to pay a lawyer for rights... But anyway they can go thru everything you own without question if you bring it ta skool same as wit a car and the federalies...

 

[famousguy]

But anyway they can go thru everything you own without question if you bring it ta skool same as wit a car and the federalies...

Just because it is on public property does not change the laws. They need a search warrant to go into your car if you are not there. Wouldn't they need the same to go into your sled? If you are with the sled or car they can get away with probable cause, but I do not think that is the case when it is parked and the owner is not present.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[yamadooed]

If it were the regular cops they may need a warrant but the school administration was running the show with the DNR they don't a search warrant... Unfortunate but kids really have no rights in school they do this for safety or so they say...

 

[michaeladams]

in wisconsin there is a law called resonable suspicion,it gives law enforcement basically a free ticket.unlike police,dnr do not need a search warrent to search any thing they deem neccesary.thats why the police like to work with them.call it what you want but this country IS becoming a police state.at least they cant line us up and kill us yet.

 

[indy_500]

in wisconsin there is a law called resonable suspicion,it gives law enforcement basically a free ticket.unlike police,dnr do not need a search warrent to search any thing they deem neccesary.thats why the police like to work with them.call it what you want but this country IS becoming a police state.at least they cant line us up and kill us yet.

hope they don't think i'm hiding anything lol maybe next year when i ride my 700 they might. i have a feelin i'll get a ticket for it being too loud even thought it's stock. they're just naturally loud

 

[indy_500]

Just because it is on public property does not change the laws. They need a search warrant to go into your car if you are not there. Wouldn't they need the same to go into your sled? If you are with the sled or car they can get away with probable cause, but I do not think that is the case when it is parked and the owner is not present.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

i thought the same thing. and then to not even latch up the hoods when they r done, that's what i didn't get.

 

[PolarisRushPro]

Just because it is on public property does not change the laws. They need a search warrant to go into your car if you are not there. Wouldn't they need the same to go into your sled? If you are with the sled or car they can get away with probable cause, but I do not think that is the case when it is parked and the owner is not present.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

I always thought the exact opposite!?! I was told if an police or Dnr officer wanted to check something out they had every right.

 

[indy_500]

I always thought the exact opposite!?! I was told if an police or Dnr officer wanted to check something out they had every right.

if they did have the right, why didn't they shut the hoods correctly and latch them up? not only were they not latched but they weren't shut correctly if you're followin me

 

[famousguy]

I always thought the exact opposite!?! I was told if an police or Dnr officer wanted to check something out they had every right.

So if you park your car at Wal-Mart, the police can open it up and go through all of your stuff just because it is in a public place?

Is that what you are saying?