St. Germain radar run "sting"

DamageInc

Member
This back and forth stuff normally would be considered "healthy debate", but I'm getting a little tired of reading these threads...so I don't. I saw this one still going on after days so had to check out what it was all about. Whatever, checkpoints, no checkpoints, whatever. They have to do their job. Doesn't matter if we agree with it or not. Just make sure you are good with the trail passes, insurance, etc. I have insurance on each of my sleds. Why wouldn't I?

Can everyone just go out and ride and send back trail reports so people like me who can't be out there due to business reasons can read them? For those of you out riding...can you share with the rest of us your travels, pictures, stories, etc.? Let's see some off trail shots. I don't even ride off trail but I know you guys take pics of getting stuck! Anything but this ongoing never ending debate about stuff (I cleaned that up).

I don't mean to pissy but enough already.

If you want trail reports, then click on trail reports. If you don't want to read people arguing about whether the DNR should have checkpoints, then don't click on a thread about DNR checkpoints!
 

dfattack

Well-known member
If you want trail reports, then click on trail reports. If you don't want to read people arguing about whether the DNR should have checkpoints, then don't click on a thread about DNR checkpoints!

Perfect example of what i'm talking about.
 

POLARISDAN

New member
if IL had trails would there be toll booths on them?

hahahahahhahahahah gud one

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So you stayed at the checkpoint all day to see who was bothered? Bull$hit. And GTFO with your "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" logic. That crap might fly in Commie Illinoise, but not here in WI.

And you are flat wrong about insurance being required in WI. I think a person would be crazy to ride without it, but it's not a law.

“If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

― Samuel Adams

likin u very much bro..
 

uncle_ed

Active member
I ride in Canada at least once a year and typically see some sort of law enforcement out and about almost every time I go whether it is a radar sting for speeding of just a random sticker check. In Michigan a good chunk of our snowmobile registration fees go toward law enforcement so I guess if they were not out doing something than wouldnt that be a rip off? I guess they could walk around at snowmobile events and hand out MADD stickers for sleds.....

What would be a good use of those law enforcement dollars that would be effective than?
 

DamageInc

Member
I ride in Canada at least once a year and typically see some sort of law enforcement out and about almost every time I go whether it is a radar sting for speeding of just a random sticker check. In Michigan a good chunk of our snowmobile registration fees go toward law enforcement so I guess if they were not out doing something than wouldnt that be a rip off? I guess they could walk around at snowmobile events and hand out MADD stickers for sleds.....

What would be a good use of those law enforcement dollars that would be effective than?

Sit at intersections and give tickets to the people with obnoxiously loud exhaust or no trail permits.

Sit in the woods at blind turns (with a video camera), and bust people who take those turns completely on the wrong side of the trail.

NOT sitting at intersections and stopping every sled, even the ones who don't appear to be breaking any laws.

If that's not enough to keep them busy, then they have too many cops/wardens, and that money would be better spent elsewhere.
 

tbone99

New member
I couldn't even read this whole thing. But here's my take. Catch me if you can. Or we turn around. I usually know the ways in and out. I don't have time for this kind on b's. Wife always says need to find fun somewhere else then out running them
 
I believe the way you have to buy the trail stickers in WI is just a way for them to pull you over other wise know as “intrapment” , don’t get me wrong I don’t like riding and wondering if the next driver is drunk...
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
I believe the way you have to buy the trail stickers in WI is just a way for them to pull you over other wise know as “intrapment” , don’t get me wrong I don’t like riding and wondering if the next driver is drunk...

Yes, without a sticker upon payment, you are riding illegal until you prove yourself innocent by providing a paper receipt. Does this sound proper and acceptable? Where is the obligation of the authority in charge to provide proof of compliance once applicant pays the fee to fully comply with statute?
 

snomoman

Active member
Thought I would throw in my 2 cents. Since a few years ago Illinois has required proof of insurance for snowmobiles. Around 4 years ago, 2 of us were riding out west of Rockford all day. When the sun started to set, we headed back to the trailer. On our way back we were literally cut off by a DNR truck with it's lights flashing at a side road. We haven't seen a snowmobile for a least an hour. No idea where he came from.
Then he jumps out & starts running over to us. Okay you got our attention, so we shut off the sleds. He asks for registration & insurance which I give him. He is looking over it like some sort of border agent. Finally he hands it back to me & says my paperwork is in order. Then he asks me if I belong to a club. I say no & ask why. He say's that the club members always have the proper paperwork. I'm sure he was just dying to write me a $500 ticket (for each sled) for no insurance which I'm sure he was doing all day.
The moral to the story is; ALWAYS have paperwork with you to easily provide if needed or get a ticket.

As far as insurance goes,, my insurance company let's me have full coverage only when I am using the snowmobile. I call them, apply full coverage, pay the difference, use it for the season, then call to remove the collision portion. The sled is in storage then. They then send me a refund check. The actual liability portion is about half of the whole policy. That is what I generally pay most of the year. Another point is to have a separate insurance company from your home or auto. May help if a snowmobile claim is to be done. This happened to me. Haven't had any repercussions about it on my home/auto policy as far as a rate increase.

I found this old thread related to the latest Illinois DNR thread with my experience with the DNR,
 

macker

Member
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
 

old abe

Well-known member
Just abide by the law, where ever, no problems! The Ill. DNR activity close to the Sconny boarder is all about correct registration, and proof of insurance. Simple.
 

Sandylake

New member
I don't see what the problem is? So much of riding sleds is riding from bar to bar or bar and I appreciate checkpoints regardless of the intent.
Speed and drinking is the reason why i am rarely seen on a trail.
Granted, I've always been a backwoods rider but back in 95 I bought me and my wife (now ex, thank god!!!) trail sleds. We didn't even last one season on the trails. Weekend riding is insanity. Coming around that long sweeping corner by D's Base Camp near Toivola we met a large group that was to the bar. My ex was already tired of the men openly pissing trailside and obnoxious drunks when we'd stop to eat. We tried riding at night for a while because it's safer being able to see other riders lights from far away but still with the speed and drunks we decided maybe to stick with atv's.
anyways, the police are there for our safety and if we can't abide by the laws or put up with a small inconvenience then maybe it's time to take up bowling.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
I don't see what the problem is? So much of riding sleds is riding from bar to bar or bar and I appreciate checkpoints regardless of the intent.
Speed and drinking is the reason why i am rarely seen on a trail.
Granted, I've always been a backwoods rider but back in 95 I bought me and my wife (now ex, thank god!!!) trail sleds. We didn't even last one season on the trails. Weekend riding is insanity. Coming around that long sweeping corner by D's Base Camp near Toivola we met a large group that was to the bar. My ex was already tired of the men openly pissing trailside and obnoxious drunks when we'd stop to eat. We tried riding at night for a while because it's safer being able to see other riders lights from far away but still with the speed and drunks we decided maybe to stick with atv's.
anyways, the police are there for our safety and if we can't abide by the laws or put up with a small inconvenience then maybe it's time to take up bowling.

Get yourself a new wife like mine who can pop a sqwat traiside as fast any guy can get through 4 layers and coax the little guy out....LOL
 

Sandylake

New member
Get yourself a new wife like mine who can pop a sqwat traiside as fast any guy can get through 4 layers and coax the little guy out....LOL

I'm pretty happy....like, you wouldn't beleive how happy I am being single.

About a year after the divorce my precocious son said to me, "dad, no one is yelling at us anymore...."

Life is grand :)
 

old abe

Well-known member
Get yourself a new wife like mine who can pop a sqwat traiside as fast any guy can get through 4 layers and coax the little guy out....LOL

snobuilder, my granddaughter Peach calls that a farm field potty job! We have 2 types of potty jobs, pee, and big. Big requires the throne!
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
I'm pretty happy....like, you wouldn't beleive how happy I am being single.

About a year after the divorce my precocious son said to me, "dad, no one is yelling at us anymore...."

Life is grand :)

LOL....we're staying together for the sleds.

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snobuilder, my granddaughter Peach calls that a farm field potty job! We have 2 types of potty jobs, pee, and big. Big requires the throne!

Only had one "BIG" episode in alla my miles.....if that becomes a regular thing at some point I might have to consider a new hobby....LOL
 

Highflyer

Active member
My sleds are all 100% legal and insured, nothing to hide. I for one appreciated the extra presence the DNR and local sheriff had on the trails. Lots of extra traffic and more sleds than typically in the area, all of which were handled very well by the event staff and local clubs.

Is insurance required by law? Not that I would never have it, but wasn't sure if it was required or just common sense.

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One thing I'm not a fan of is how they mail registration and trail passes. I feel it was much easier for those who go 1-2 times a year just to buy the pass when they got up North. Now my friend who do just an annual trip by the pass a week before but they never have it in time for the trip. Yes they have an email showing proof but its still a pain if you get checked.

Same issue if you buy a sled on a trip. You won't have registration or trail passes for likely two weeks.
 
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