indy_500
Well-known member
I saw them around 3 pm on the grade halfway between Mercer and Hurley. Not sure how long they were there...
STOP means STOP-DNR to patrol Greenland area
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I saw them around 3 pm on the grade halfway between Mercer and Hurley. Not sure how long they were there...
indy_500
Well-known member
I ate at Antonios in Bergland on Friday and sat next to 2 cops. Probably the ones who were writing up tickets in that area...
Agree.
I was thinking my last trip, wouldn't it be nice, if those land owners with driveways that are not always there, could be convinced to set them up when they are there, and take them down when they are not? I mean, most probably aren't there for more than a week or 2, if at all in the winter.
A landowner was blowing his driveway englufed in pines on Trail 2 in Watersmeet area & very little out look for stop sign. I hit binders but not enough time for full stop but got it down then saw the guys blower headlight as I slid thru. I was thinking no way I would walk thru that section blower or not enclosed in pine trees & stop sign has no stop ahead warning & small stop that is there is difficult to see. Driveway not wider than 10 feet if that. Felt bad about sliding thru then thought about thread regarding removing signs & stop ahead would have helped in this case.
Amen, Skylar. Thanks for the Reminder and Head Up ClassicChick.
Ever done the California slide-through and get the Holy Crap scared outta you because the Land owner " that's only there 50% of the time" Magically Appeared coming out of their driveway in their Truck ? Been there, and not anymore. Scary.
It is a privilege the land owner is granting us. These folks grant that privilege even under huge potential liability risk. But they still grant it knowing full well some Recreational users just don't give a rats. That's where the DNR reminder comes in.
Without them we don't have trails ..period. Not to mention the Hard work to obtain and maintain that relationship.
Until the entitled folks, either become Recreational Property Use Owners or can fully comprehend all involved in those fragile agreements ... they'll never get it.
Tickets are cheap training. The alternative could have un-recoupable cost.
(Hey you don't mind if I come in your house and rearrange your furniture because your couch is in my way to your refrigerator .. do you ? awww C'mon you said it was ok to come in.)
Just be safe.
Thanks Classicchick and I agree Skylar and tedsnotdead Stop means stop. It does not make it any less illegal if you think it is not needed or in the middle of no where. It is still illegal. Plus it makes no difference if you are riding on a closed trail or blowing thru stop signs. They are all illegal activities. And yes I do stop at every stop sign. I also taught both my kids to stop at every stop sign. If they feel they don't need to stop they will stay home. I may not agree with every stop sign but if there is one I will stop. simple as that.
yoopermike
New member
Please feel free to feed off of my ignorance, but are all DNR/Fed stop signs on trails enforceable by law? I only say this because ROAD stop signs are only enforceable if they have a traffic control order behind them. For instance, the stop signs that are in your local Wal-Mart parking lots are not enforceable....etc, this info comes directly from a seasoned LEO. I don't ride trails, cross them from time to time, so I'm just asking. Does each and every stop sign on a trail have the same type of 'law' behind them?
Just yesterday I saw a group of snowmobiles cross a road and the only one that stopped was the leader of the group. Why would you think for a minute that it's ok to go without looking for traffic. Everyone is commenting on the legality of running a stop sign, what about the stupid bastard that gets hit by a vehicle coming down the road. On my way home from work today two guys were riding the side of US41 and decided to cross in front of a truck that was right in front of me. How dumb can you possibly have to be to just think that the cars on the road should slow down.
I know what you mean, countless times ove the years I have seen the leader of a group stop at the stop sign, and then wave everyone on, and then the next guy DOESN'T EVEN LOOK to see if there is a car coming!
Man I am glad to hear that this drives other people crazy. I never understood how people would trust someone that is waving you through. I see it all time as well. I taught my wife and kids to NEVER trust someone to wave you through. Always stop and look for yourself because how do you know if the person ahead of you did not see a car coming or that the car was far enough in the distance for you to go when in reality the car was moving way too fast and was too close by the time you got to the intersection.
caged_beagle
Member
Sorry, but
I'm guilty not coming to a complete stop at every stop sign on the trail.
I'm guilty of going over 65 miles per hour on the interstate driving to the UP with good roads.
On a positve note I keep to my side of the trail, and display common sense courtesy to other riders and drivers.
I'm guilty not coming to a complete stop at every stop sign on the trail.
I'm guilty of going over 65 miles per hour on the interstate driving to the UP with good roads.
On a positve note I keep to my side of the trail, and display common sense courtesy to other riders and drivers.
Don't know very good question?? Anyone??
polarisrider1
New member
Okay all you so holy ones. I stop at "Real" stop signs and roll through the rest under 5 mph. yes Skylar I have sinned. Stop to cross to Krupps (heck no one wants to die) but the crappola stop signs on the unplowed forest rds. that no one has been down since summer of 99 clearly visable and un navigatable ya lets get real. Oh and I forgot to mention the unplowed driveways with the seniors in Florida for the season, ya those entrapments, gotta love them to. Life is not perfect. Got some riding to do Bye!
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indy_500
Well-known member
Thanks for joining the club! LOL
polarisrider1
New member
Just being Honest.
I hear ya anybody that comes to full non rolling stop at EVERY stop sign on every trail should rethink their real world riding habits. lol