This might be a little off topic but I have a question.

mrarctic

New member
X2 on The DNR in Newberry they got real crappy with us for a loud can it was an 2001 440 snocross sled we new it was loud but we wernt jumping on it only going 5mph and they gave us all writen warnings because some old lady at the gas station was complaining. We have a cabin in Trout lake but i think well be avoiding that area from now on its jus getting out of hand in some places.

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ezra

Well-known member
We have the same problem in so. Wi!!!!!! Even the country roads that the trail runs along are plowed to pavement AND to the bottom of the ditch. The bridge crossings are plowed right to the edge of the bridge and we streak across em like a comet too. I get real bent out of shape when there is enough room for trail and clean road surface and there's just clean pavement for as far as the eye can see. Even if the plow driver could lift the side blade an inch or two.

The signage thing can get me reved up to but the big thing is here in so. Wi. we still have corn standing and marshes not frozen. We didn't find out that we couldn't take a trail all the way thru until we have a head on collision with a corn field or muddy marsh. Mark the dang trail closed due to mud, water, corn, dead moose or whatever!!!!! Trails are open but if one is still closed, tell us! 197 mile day of back trackin, no snow ditch bangin, plowed road sparking crap. Dane co.....good job. Jefferson co.......well..........see ya in February.

not to be a **** but join your local club volunteer for 4 hrs 1 day a yr to go out with the club and go help mark trail.the guys and gals doing it are just like you with jobs kids bitching wife's sick dogs busted cars but they get out and usually do the best they can with the limited man power they have.you would be shocked at how much time is spent just going to farmers houses and begging them to keep the field open for 1 more yr.my self I look forward to marking and clearing brush and shooting the bs with the boys.the club usually buys lunch and drinks when done.Try it you may find you enjoy doing more for your sport than just riding.
 

mudorsnow

New member
ezra

Not to be a **** back. However, I've belonged to clubs and still do. I even tried to start one. I used to be a journeyman tree trimmer and line clearance man for the power company. I enjoy brushing and have worked on trails before. I love the sledding and atving sport and I know and realize the work and sacrifices and effort that go into the trail systems. I donated to groomer funds and bought club raffle tickets for years. My hat goes off for ALL that are involved in the making of our trails from the land owners, the brush cutters, and the groomers to those that go right to the capitol to fight for us!!!!!! On a personal level, I've introduced our sport to 8 people who then took their money and bought a machine to go out and ride on our trails. Just from asking them to go with and letting them use an extra sled of mine so they can ride and experience what we have. I have 2 kids that I'm working with and teaching to enjoy and respect our sport and to continue on. I've helped people out on the trails. I've stopped and pulled limbs and branches out of the trails so others won't get hurt. I've picked up downed signs and markers so others don't have to. I've picked up litter in the trails during the ride.

So, my deepest apologies to you that I might not match up to your exceptional standards of what I should be doing for our sport and in showing enough appreciation to those who do what they do so we can do what we do. Now that you graciously made an assumption and pointed out where my faults lie, I really feel that I've tarnished the name of our sport!!!! I AM SO SORRY!!!! I don't deserve to be a part of this sport anymore because I apparently am not gratuitous enough, so I guess I'll have to sell the $40,000 of sleds, wheelers, trailers and gear that I've invested into YOUR sport so you don't have to put up with guy like me who JUST likes to ride and not help out!

Oh, and by the way, if you ever get stuck in 6' tall marsh grass with 2 feet of snow at the bottom of a creek at night after a 170 miles of chisel plowed fields because the trial didn't have a little sign that said MARSH CLOSED at the last intersection.....don't worry, it's Ok, the club members had sick dogs, busted cars and grumpy wives!!!!!!
 

90s

New member
Well stated by the above posts on the trail signage/road plowing issues. The reason for routes thru town is because in most cases that is the only way to connect the trail. The towns/villages/ cities have to plow the road because of liability issues; for ex: emergency vehicles have to have unhampered access. The towns dictate where we can go. This is better than not being able to get into for gas/food or not being able to get thru. I to spend to many hours maintaining the trail in my area, ocassionally a sign may be missed, some brush may not get cut, but we do our best. If your're riding in an area and have sign isssues, or any issue, look up the AWSC Dir for that county, or call that county foresty dept.
 

fishs_summit

New member
more roads in the yoop are being plowed...people want convenience,and sledders want snow.Have to appreciate the good parts more.
 

booondocker

New member
Why not write a letter to the Supervisor of the town and point out the lack of snow issue so that he/she can perhaps make a change, leaving some snow on a shoulder for the sleds to get thru?

Seems to me you are writing to the wrong crowd. Changes are made by addressing the parties who are making it hard to pass thru the town. Talk to the gas station owner and food establishments and bring it up with them. If it is upsetting you, it is likely to be upsetting other sleds too, and by mentioning it something might be done.

These are hard economic times for nearly all places that encourage sledders to drive and spend the bucks. Pointing out these minor issues will probably be resolved by talking to the right people who could change it.

Oh, and next time you find a sign missing...take your construction paper out of the trunk of your sled, make up a sign and pound it on a tree or post so that others won't make the same mistake. Then you can be part of the solution to the problem.
 

fredster

New member
How many towns have you visited where snowmobilers were actually welcomed with wide groomed trails right into the center of the city.....?

I wouldn't mind the Newberry thingy too much if they would leave some snow in the alleys, but one warm sunny day and you're down to concrete.

Grand Marais...great stop for gas and food (only place for gas within 40 miles!) but they sure don't make it easy to get in and out of town....lots of older residents live there who don't like sleds. Had one or more fingers waved at me more than once....not doing anything wrong, either.

The old southern approach into Paradise was the pits, too. New approach through woods and swamps is longer but a much better ride.

Ever tried to ride through Curtis? Bare pavement for a long stretch. Also found that Manistique is not sled-friendly at all.....

For some reason the mid-UP towns like Munising have done a better job with this? Not sure why? Although just to the west you have Chocolay Township with the 35MPH 'speed zone'. Still a hoot to ride through there, though. But sleds are only allowed due to the court ruling in our favor.

Most of our expereinces in western UP have been good. I have found the "Bergland loop" a little weird, too. Houghton pretty good (love the bridge) and everything in the Keewenaw good except you get to Copper Harbor and yep! bare pavement everywhere.

This year we are headed to Ishpeming. I'm hoping the combination of very few people and lots of acres results in fewer 'pavement incidents'....not much in that part of da UP.

I've often said if mobile truck-mounted gas stations were allowed, all the UP towns would go out of business. Park the tanker at the trailhead and you'd be very popular.
 

winterwarlock

Active member
"This might be a little off topic but I have a question"

How dare you post an "off topic" post in the OFF TOPIC RAMBLINGS section...LOL
 
bergland

whats so hard about getting around bergland to get gas? you got two easy access gas stations on the northeast end of the lake and also one right off of the lake at the hoop and hollar on the the northwest side of the lake. also if you are really that hardup there is another station at a bar on the west side to the south. i used to struggle a little bit but know my way around easily now. dont know what they could do any different as a club to mark it better, maybe hold your hand and take you into town and fill it up for you?
 
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