This winter

billjd

Member
Man....sure seems to be another bust on our hands. What ever happened to 3-4 months of winter?


Weather undergrounds discussion on next weeks storm potential....

Sunday through Tuesday... a few changes to the pattern are in store for the early portion of next week but the chances of a significant system have diminished due to poor agreement between the GFS and ec along with the placement of the system within each model. First, for Sunday, a modest surface cold front looks to swing through the region but it will be a quick-mover and fairly devoid of moisture so aside from isolated/scattered rain and snow showers, this system is rather weak. Going into early next week, there is agreement on the formation of a low pressure system in the central-northern rockies late Sunday but now there are much more northern tracks displayed by both the 30/00z GFS and 30/00z European model (ecmwf). Both models attempt to deepen the system over eastern Montana and eastern Wyoming Sunday night. Afterwards, the GFS swings it northeast into Manitoba province by Tuesday morning while the European model (ecmwf) swings it through the Dakotas and into northwest Minnesota by Tuesday morning. In either scenario, it is a warmer and less precip-intense system, highlighting precipitation along the cold front of the the system for Monday night into Tuesday (as opposed to any warm frontal precipitation which now looks to be shunted into northern Minnesota, north of the weather forecast office mpx coverage area). In addition, wrap-around precipitation for Tuesday night into Wednesday looks fairly unimpressive and the main question is where the front stalls out mid-week which would determine any persistent precipitation for the middle portion of next week. Plenty of uncertainty lurks with how these features evolve for next week, for sure, but confidence is low on having any storm systems produce significant precipitation for this area for early December.


Looks like a bust guys...sorry....
 

dfattack

Well-known member
Man....sure seems to be another bust on our hands. What ever happened to 3-4 months of winter?


Weather undergrounds discussion on next weeks storm potential....

Sunday through Tuesday... a few changes to the pattern are in store for the early portion of next week but the chances of a significant system have diminished due to poor agreement between the GFS and ec along with the placement of the system within each model. First, for Sunday, a modest surface cold front looks to swing through the region but it will be a quick-mover and fairly devoid of moisture so aside from isolated/scattered rain and snow showers, this system is rather weak. Going into early next week, there is agreement on the formation of a low pressure system in the central-northern rockies late Sunday but now there are much more northern tracks displayed by both the 30/00z GFS and 30/00z European model (ecmwf). Both models attempt to deepen the system over eastern Montana and eastern Wyoming Sunday night. Afterwards, the GFS swings it northeast into Manitoba province by Tuesday morning while the European model (ecmwf) swings it through the Dakotas and into northwest Minnesota by Tuesday morning. In either scenario, it is a warmer and less precip-intense system, highlighting precipitation along the cold front of the the system for Monday night into Tuesday (as opposed to any warm frontal precipitation which now looks to be shunted into northern Minnesota, north of the weather forecast office mpx coverage area). In addition, wrap-around precipitation for Tuesday night into Wednesday looks fairly unimpressive and the main question is where the front stalls out mid-week which would determine any persistent precipitation for the middle portion of next week. Plenty of uncertainty lurks with how these features evolve for next week, for sure, but confidence is low on having any storm systems produce significant precipitation for this area for early December.


Looks like a bust guys...sorry....

It's not even December yet....
 

bladeguy

Member
I'll stick with what ever J Dee forecasts. He is the man!

That is why he called it a wildcard. It was already out of one of his models today. I am sure even JD himself would never have high confidence in a storm that is over a week away. It is early. Although it may start late - it could be a great season - we shall see...
 

POLARISDAN

New member
OMG its freaking november..these threads start earlier every year..heres a tip..find some thing else to do until JANUARY..dec sledding is a bonus..the later starts are always better..every time..has to FREEZE first
 

billjd

Member
Sorry Brent.......just trying a little reverse pshycology".........

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Tomorrow is December 1st polarisdan".......
 

josh_4184

New member
Man....sure seems to be another bust on our hands. What ever happened to 3-4 months of winter?


Weather undergrounds discussion on next weeks storm potential....

Sunday through Tuesday... a few changes to the pattern are in store for the early portion of next week but the chances of a significant system have diminished due to poor agreement between the GFS and ec along with the placement of the system within each model. First, for Sunday, a modest surface cold front looks to swing through the region but it will be a quick-mover and fairly devoid of moisture so aside from isolated/scattered rain and snow showers, this system is rather weak. Going into early next week, there is agreement on the formation of a low pressure system in the central-northern rockies late Sunday but now there are much more northern tracks displayed by both the 30/00z GFS and 30/00z European model (ecmwf). Both models attempt to deepen the system over eastern Montana and eastern Wyoming Sunday night. Afterwards, the GFS swings it northeast into Manitoba province by Tuesday morning while the European model (ecmwf) swings it through the Dakotas and into northwest Minnesota by Tuesday morning. In either scenario, it is a warmer and less precip-intense system, highlighting precipitation along the cold front of the the system for Monday night into Tuesday (as opposed to any warm frontal precipitation which now looks to be shunted into northern Minnesota, north of the weather forecast office mpx coverage area). In addition, wrap-around precipitation for Tuesday night into Wednesday looks fairly unimpressive and the main question is where the front stalls out mid-week which would determine any persistent precipitation for the middle portion of next week. Plenty of uncertainty lurks with how these features evolve for next week, for sure, but confidence is low on having any storm systems produce significant precipitation for this area for early December.


Looks like a bust guys...sorry....

Man, its just December 1st, yea its been pretty warm and a slow start but already throwing in the towel??

Also regarding next weeks storm why you already ruling that out, its still almost 10 days away, a lot can an will change during that period for the better or worst. Especially pertaining to LES chances.
 

mezz

Well-known member
C'mon man, men, boys. December 1st starts really very rarely happen. There is no broken or busted winter this early on. I get it, there is a bunch of anticipation & excitement to get ole man winter into action, but by no means is it a bust. Rest assured, it will happen. Has anyone heard of Indian Summer? Well, that's what it is at the moment & a change is on the horizon. Just wait.....He's coming!-Mezz
 
G

G

Guest
Any snow we would have already gotten would have just melted by now so it would have been WASTED SNOW. As of right now no snow has gone to waste. It is all waiting to come when it will do the most good. November has never been a high mile month. It is so wet here that even the Catholics are wearing rubbers. We need it to get below freezing for about a week before it even starts snowing. Way too early to get excited. Now if we get to Superbowl weekend it will be a different matter. Go home and wax your sleds. Do a little bonding.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
What the?....Winter a bust? Well.... if trails open for the season December 1 and close December 2 then I guess those 24 hours are a bust.... lol.... You got to be kidding!
 
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