Time for a 4 stroke!
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rocketman356
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There is no reason to go 2 stroke anymore unless you like paying a extra buck a gallon for fuel cause if you factor in the cost of 2 stroke oil now thats what you are paying unless ur riding a Etec.I went 4 stroke last season with the 1200 Doo and never going back.The new Doo Gade weighs less than a 800 Switchback.I boosted the Doo and it will run with about anything out there.
flatlandassn
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“There is no reason to go 2 stroke anymore.” Uhhhhhh… I can think of a few, power to weight ratio is the first thing that pops into my head, but I’m sure others can think of more. But I guess, if you’re pounding out 400 trail miles a day 4 stroke is the way to go.
xsledder
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You will like the 4 stroke. I have 3 4 stroke sleds and I like them a lot. They are quiter than 2 strokes. You don't smell after a ride unless your riding with 2 strokes. They don't fill the garage up with smoke when you're working on them. Also, they consistently get better fuel mileage than a 2 stroke sled.
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scott_l
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#1 reason to stay away from a 4 stroker...........The lack of that wounderfull smell that a 2 stroker gives!<font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font>
I can think of a few reasons why 2 strokes will be around for a while. 2 stroke engines weight alot less given similar hp output. The cost to rebuild and repair 2 strokes is much much less than the 4 stroke counterparts. The complexity within the 4 stroke motors makes repairs very costly and way less people have the skills to do so on there own. What happend when the electric start takes a dump in the middle of the woods? Pull start? I think not. Also remember there is some significant cost associated with a oil change if not done on your own. I think there will forever be a market for 2 strokes particularly in the off trail crowd where weight is a significant factor. Some may say boost is the answer, but then we come back to the cost argument. Try lugging around a apex mountain in the deep snow and woods of the UP for a day, then try it on a similar HP 2 stroke sled. There is a place for this 4 stroke technology and it is certailnly progressing at an astonishing rate. At the same time, 2 stroke injection methods and emissions are also progressing. To say that there is no reason to run a 2 stroke is plain rediqulous.
I love the whole "what will you do when your starter or battery dies". 9/10 times if you have a problem like that it's in the morning not out while riding. How often you leave your house with your car/truck and think "man I hope this thing starts again"! I like them both 2 and 4 stroke but I honestly would be more worried about my 2 stroke burning down than my 4 stroke not starting.
Chad@M&M
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gogebic_sledder
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WEIGHT! Maybe when they come out with 4-stroke that weighs 450 lbs. Has at least 120 hp, and handles like a rev xp, I'll think about it. Until then I can't wait till the delivery of my 2010 renegade x etec
My 4s Attack 150 starts at -30F no problem. Now would I ride when that cold? Not anymore too much frostbite last year on my face to do that again. I never worry about the 4s starting & never charge battery during the season just late in Nov. I'm never going back to 2s done with 2s meltdowns & towed out. Yam did a lot model year 2010 to lighten up 4s for powder but still 2s domain. Most new Trail sleds except doo will be all 4s by 2013 so get used to it or purchase 2s now if a 2s diehard.
Ok how much do I weigh at 217 lbs when I have to walk out at -30F when my 2s burns down
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4s not heavy if it does not handle heavy. Sure 2s will always be lighter but becoming a so what fact with great handling 4s sleds. Weight matters off trail not on trail unless it is dead weight.
4s not heavy if it does not handle heavy. Sure 2s will always be lighter but becoming a so what fact with great handling 4s sleds. Weight matters off trail not on trail unless it is dead weight.
I think the concern about the battery is legitimate. We have some jet skis and have trouble with the batteries all the time - probably because they don't get used all that often. You don't have issues like that with a car since you use them year-round and nearly every day. I suppose with some maintenance you won't have an issue (battery tender) but I'd feel more comfortable if there was an alternate way of starting them when you're out riding if the battery goes down. Maybe there is - can you still start them with a strap around the clutch like with a 2 stroke?
whitedust
It was just a question posed. I really don't know how much weight difference there is between a 2 and a 4.
I am just curious.
As for weight, it does matter on trails and off. If you are riding 300+ mile days even on good trails, the heavier the sled, the more tired you are at the end of the day.
Don't get me wrong, I am not Pro 2s or Pro 4s.
Currently all of my sleds are 2 strokes, but that may change in the future.
It was just a question posed. I really don't know how much weight difference there is between a 2 and a 4.
I am just curious.
As for weight, it does matter on trails and off. If you are riding 300+ mile days even on good trails, the heavier the sled, the more tired you are at the end of the day.
Don't get me wrong, I am not Pro 2s or Pro 4s.
Currently all of my sleds are 2 strokes, but that may change in the future.