240+ miles on a tank of gas?
I think he said 20 mpg's, so if it has a 12 gallon tank - not sure what they put on those.
Tried a 900 ace (my impression)
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I think he said 20 mpg's, so if it has a 12 gallon tank - not sure what they put on those.
Got to take it out again tonight...rode from minocqua to irma...and back to my friends place on nokomis...14 inches of snow...she handled it alright...for a 120 inch track it did well (wish it would have been a renegade)...it was not as fun on the lakes..lots of drifts, had to pin it to keep on top..if I had one bone to pick today...its the amount of snow that comes over the hood, especially on the sides of the windshield...this ski doo chassis has always chapped my butt with that, too much air (on below zero days)...and too much snow over the hood...the gauges where constantly covered...the only sled I felt colder on was a rush...but really all these manufacturers keep making these front ends narrower and narrower and they dont block the elements well...that being said...if the worst thing that happened to me today was a white wash to my shield...I'll take it...beats working...lol
We have 2 900s 1-2018 and 1-2019 both Renegades. I do not like the 2018 XS Chassis, but that one is my Wife's and she loves it. My new G4 is the great I love every minute I'm on it.
We rode in Ontario 10 days ago and the last day we put 137 miles on and I still had 1 Bar left on the Gauge. So figure 7.3 Gallons in 137 Miles. My Wife had 2 Bars and she has a tank that is 1 Gallon bigger than the G4 I would have been out at around 180 miles. She may have made 200 miles. I drove it in eco for 130 of those miles. It runs about 55 in eco and is very smooth on the Trail also the speed limit is 30 in Ontario so I figured 55 was fast enough. I drove up there to look at the Bush, if I wanted to tear around I would have stayed in Wi or the UP.
If I run in Sport there is no Throttle lag, in fact its a little jumpy. In standard the middle setting I have noticed a lag. So its either eco or Sport. Top end is 79 on GPS, that is plenty fast for me. All I hear is a little Track noise and the Wind its that quite. I have had 5 or 6 1200's and still have one left. The lighter 900 steers so easy power steering is not needed, on the 1200 it may have been a plus. If your thinking about a 900 Skidoo my only advise is get a 2019, the G4 Chassis is a big improvement.
We rode in Ontario 10 days ago and the last day we put 137 miles on and I still had 1 Bar left on the Gauge. So figure 7.3 Gallons in 137 Miles. My Wife had 2 Bars and she has a tank that is 1 Gallon bigger than the G4 I would have been out at around 180 miles. She may have made 200 miles. I drove it in eco for 130 of those miles. It runs about 55 in eco and is very smooth on the Trail also the speed limit is 30 in Ontario so I figured 55 was fast enough. I drove up there to look at the Bush, if I wanted to tear around I would have stayed in Wi or the UP.
If I run in Sport there is no Throttle lag, in fact its a little jumpy. In standard the middle setting I have noticed a lag. So its either eco or Sport. Top end is 79 on GPS, that is plenty fast for me. All I hear is a little Track noise and the Wind its that quite. I have had 5 or 6 1200's and still have one left. The lighter 900 steers so easy power steering is not needed, on the 1200 it may have been a plus. If your thinking about a 900 Skidoo my only advise is get a 2019, the G4 Chassis is a big improvement.
yamadooed
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I've not hand calculated numbers yet but a direct comparison run to a 2017 Apex... I came back into town with 3 gallons in the tank and the apex light was on the entire Gogoagibic run.
The regular 900 on standard mode will push a 240 mi tank easily. MPG isn't a big deal to most but when your fueling 3,4 or 5 sleds X2 on a family run it adds up quick...
snobuilder
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The APEX has 9.4 gallons tops. light comes on with 2 gallons left. Only true comparison is to fill them both up twice, before and after running together.
Our sleds are nearly identical.
2011 Apex and 2015 AXYS 800.
15 mpg on hardpack-ish trails.
I could care less mpg of 600 or 900 Ace not anything that interests me for the style of riding we do. However I’m interested in the 900T performance and mpg and hoping it doesn’t drop below NA Apex?Turbos usually suck gas superchargers do better but ok if I’m buying a turbo 150 hp seems about right for me. Does the turbo have the 3 power modes that seems counterintuitive to me but if there I would experiment with it but don’t need it?
Or as a bud used to tell me about golf...."If you can't afford the d*** game, don't play"
yamadooed
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Sorry to confuse WD I've both a NA and Turbo Gades but I was referring to the 900T in the first sentence. The performance and fuel and handling are far better than the Apex I've run side by side for 1000s of miles with them nose to tail. The only really comparison left for me is longevity...
Still would like to hear mpg of T and if it still has drive by wire modes? As stated Apex xtx 144 gets 15 mpg no matter conditions or style of riding for us. I’m thinking the Doo T probably can get 15mpg but would like to hear from owners for real world mpg. I’m not at all worried about T performance that should be aok at 150 hp.
yamadooed
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The DBW is 3 modes which is a learning curve to embrace. Didn't think I would use eco till I hit trail 13 moguls for miles.
I'm sure after next week I'll have some real mpg numbers to throw down for comparison but even during the break in mode I was well over 15...
whitedust, I doubt you would ever be comfortable, or for that matter happy on a Doo. snobuilder never would be. Perhaps, Yamaha, or AC can somehow quench your thrust? The reports I've heard on the 900T ACE are around 16 to 17 mpg? Really strong pull. Yes all Doo 4 stroke now are TBW, Eco, Std, and Sport. Eco is fantastic when loading/unloading, and getting unstuck. I have not rode with a Turbo 900 as yet, so to be able confirm this. We carry 14 gal of fuel when riding in Canada. We do high mile trips, as it is a long trip up there alone. 14gal is a conservative 240 mile range. My sled does pretty much 20+ all the time riding normal, or groomed. March of 17, we left Chapleau, Ont with 10 to 15+ inches fresh snow. We took turns leading pack, riding at a brisk pace of what was possible to do for 80+ miles. When fueled, My 900 ace, and Bob's Etech were right at 18, 800R at 15, and the SW 11 (shorty). We have never had any problem with the speed limits, while up there, but watch it close around towns of what ever size, trail jcts, and etc. If you conduct yourself in a reasonable, and safe manner, the Law Enforcement doesn't bother you a bit.
That’s silly Abe I owned 3 doos prior to my run on Yamahas in 2007. No doubt I’m a 4s rider and very interested in the Doo Ace 900 Turbo if I like the demo ride. Doo wins by attrition if Yamaha doesn’t release a 150 hp plus 4s with eps soon. I already have 14,500 miles on my Apex xtx and my sled is in great shape but a new ice ripper track will be needed soon and I’ll replace all the drive bearings too. I like my Apex xtx no use for Viper too slow and I did like the Sidewinder a lot but too hard to steer after eps.
uncle_ed
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I would say you would find that the doo should suit your needs fine but definetly get some seat time. My nephew owns a t900 and we have put a few miles on together so far this season and I do have a bit of seat time on it. When we gassed up we were pretty close to the same amount and I am running a doo 1200 gade. I have never checked gas milage on mine as it is not a concern since I dont put that many miles on in a season anyway. He can pull away from me at any time and at any speed but he is cranking up the boost a bit though! Something to think about if you dont think its enough power for you plus its prolly 80-100 lbs lighter than your yammy....
This is pretty ridiculous. I have had lots of younger riders follow me this year and no one has complained I am going to slow with my 900 in eco.
Oh, by the way our family also has 1-1200 and 2-850s and the 900 is by far a better Trail Sled. We fill with our Tank with 87 with ethanol on the Trail, strait 87 at Home. They have not hit 20 mpg yet, 19 yes with lots of eco time. I figure 150 safe miles per Tank on my 900 NA G4. We never plan on using the Fuel in the stackable Tank we carry, its for emergency's only.
If you think you need power steering with a 900 G4 your probably riding your last Sled. Power steering is for lead Sled 4 Strokes not 900s.
Abe, did you stay with Ross @ Valentine in Chalpeau? It may be Seans last winter open at Halfway, he is pretty fed with everything.
Oh, by the way our family also has 1-1200 and 2-850s and the 900 is by far a better Trail Sled. We fill with our Tank with 87 with ethanol on the Trail, strait 87 at Home. They have not hit 20 mpg yet, 19 yes with lots of eco time. I figure 150 safe miles per Tank on my 900 NA G4. We never plan on using the Fuel in the stackable Tank we carry, its for emergency's only.
If you think you need power steering with a 900 G4 your probably riding your last Sled. Power steering is for lead Sled 4 Strokes not 900s.
Abe, did you stay with Ross @ Valentine in Chalpeau? It may be Seans last winter open at Halfway, he is pretty fed with everything.
I love how quickly ski doo riders dismiss eps..lol. Do u have it on your can am atv/utvs?? I think all 4 stroke trail/touring sleds can benefit from this technology...its flat out slick, and it works...and yes...us yami guys want it...we like it, it has nothing to do with "weak arms" etc...leave your hcs bs comments over there. There is no bashing on my part...you know darn well I'm an old yami guy, so saying anything positive about a yellow sled is tough for me...but the truth is the truth...the 900 ace is a nice machine...not enough power for my liking, but plenty enough to have a good time, and it's certainly not the turd some of u make it out to be.
That is not good news about Sean at Halfway! But I know what he has to go thru out there. Then contend with the cheap dead beats, riding high dollar sleds, complaining on his prices. And yes, Valentines is the choice at Chapleau.
He had some trouble getting opened up this year - water freezing up - but he seems good now. I'm sure that was a major headache. We were there a few days before he officially opened for the year. Seems to me he needs to find someone reliable to help out so he can step away a couple days once in awhile. I know - easier said than done!
For sure Hoosier. Hard to find somebody that wants to be way out in the middle of nowhere! Especially in the winter? He had what seemed like a real good young fellow, but he decided there were better ops out there? Maybe someone who loves to snowmobile?
I sent you a PM on that, but yeah, that place holds that whole side of the trail system together. I can't see him bailing given all the improvements made around there the past couple years.
yamadooed
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Or as a bud used to tell me about golf...."If you can't afford the d*** game, don't play"
I had a fortune cookie once that read "A fool and his money are soon parted"