But this has been the M/O of AC for the past 10 plus years....forcing dealers to take inventory year in and year out regardless of how the prior year was with snow and sales. It took the dealers to stand up and say no before they listened. A lot of those mom and pop dealers have long been gone, but that is the case with all the brands. And now AC builds a new Taj Mahal in downtown Minneapolis for millions of dollars rather than investing that type of money in R&D to bring excitement back to their brand (ATV/UTV and sleds). The Yamacat venture was a band aide for those two brands considering what Ski Doo and Polaris have accomplished working with their ATV/UTV development as well as the constant improvement and advancement in their sleds. Unless they, AC/Yamaha both rededicate themselves to their individual brands, there will only be two brands left in the coming years. Tucker retiring from snowcross will likely be the first nail in AC's coffin IMO.