Two seconds from death near the Willow Flowage

Highflyer

Active member
As liv2ride said because of seeing truck he used caution and slowed down to 20 mph instead of 60 mph. He was not doing 60 when the truck came out from behind the bank. He posted this to warn others of a possible situation that he found himself in that is not the norm for this section if trail. To indicate that he did not use caution upon seeing the one truck means you did not read the original post in detail.

That's correct. My point was that all riders should have that level of common sense to slow down in that case.
 

Sandylake

New member
Well I guess I should quit my job for a lower paid one, sell my trail sled to buy a tundra and never go over 35mph. Then I will really enjoy life!!

I'm sorry for the sarcasm but just because that is how you enjoy your life or sledding doesn't mean it is the only way to do it. People are motivated by many different things. I enjoy the thrill of going fast, traveling across the entire UP and seeing as many destinations as possible. I have zero desire to go off trail or boondocking as you call it. But I'm also OK with you riding that way because I'm not interested in telling you how to ride. You enjoy it your way and I'll do it mine.

BTW, I love buying tourist things while on my trips. My crew always try's to buy sweatshirts from some of the nice establishments we visit up there. Heck, I even have a Polaris shirt that I bought from the dealer in Greenland that every time I put it on I remember the great trip I had staying in that area.

Why would you believe that you would have to take a lower paying job here? The U.P. isn't another planet where it's that different. Maybe you believe that because you see mostly people in the service industry where they live on tips? Here you have to have a specific skill set that works.
I had a couple from Rhinelander that moved in down the road from me about 7 years ago. Big snowmobilers and thats why they moved here, both professionals career-wise. They lasted one year and moved. Too much winter. I thought how strange it must be to live in a place like Rhinelander and be a part of that kind of cold but not want a bunch of snow? So strange.
...sorry, I'm going off on another tangent, similar but a bit off.

So trails are strange to me in a few ways. It's strange that people just want them as a place to go fast. If they aren't buttered smooth riders complain. Point A to B to C and back again as fast as possible. Trails have turned into a place for common people to do some sort of racing against themselves. Sure fast is fun but how doesn't that just get boring. It's not very technical to go fast. It's not like there is an actual race going on where you're jockeying for positions and passing riders in your group.
I know I'm sounding terribly negative about snowmobiling but I'm not. I'm pro-snowmobiling and I dig that's how I come off, I get that. Similar to how I don't bait when I deer hunt. I like to still hunt but if watching over a bait pile is what people think hunting is to them it's okay by me if that's the way they want to do it because they don't affect me. Snowmobilers going 80 have affected me because I ride the trails very little because of them. I live right on a trail and those brapping pipes have affected me.

I understand the excitement of getting here, getting the sleds unloaded and hitting the trails or backcountry and how cool that must be but the stuff you miss going 80 is astounding.

Life is not a race and the U.P. is not a racetrack.

Maybe I feel like I do because I do live here. Our riding is us going out to our cabin, hanging out there, doing chores, making some good food and riding the backcountry. Snowmobiling is secondary to just being with family and friends. We ride a lot and immerse ourselves in it. When I got home from work tonight me son was testing out his Phazer mod (races this Saturday ant the South Range Club). He made me check out how the clutch was working great, finally, as soon as I stepped out of my car and i took it for a rip, and yes, fast.

I could text more of my ramblings but I'm tired and need to get some sleep.


To be continued l....
 

blkhwkbob

Active member
Why would you believe that you would have to take a lower paying job here? The U.P. isn't another planet where it's that different. Maybe you believe that because you see mostly people in the service industry where they live on tips? Here you have to have a specific skill set that works.
I had a couple from Rhinelander that moved in down the road from me about 7 years ago. Big snowmobilers and thats why they moved here, both professionals career-wise. They lasted one year and moved. Too much winter. I thought how strange it must be to live in a place like Rhinelander and be a part of that kind of cold but not want a bunch of snow? So strange.
...sorry, I'm going off on another tangent, similar but a bit off.

So trails are strange to me in a few ways. It's strange that people just want them as a place to go fast. If they aren't buttered smooth riders complain. Point A to B to C and back again as fast as possible. Trails have turned into a place for common people to do some sort of racing against themselves. Sure fast is fun but how doesn't that just get boring. It's not very technical to go fast. It's not like there is an actual race going on where you're jockeying for positions and passing riders in your group.
I know I'm sounding terribly negative about snowmobiling but I'm not. I'm pro-snowmobiling and I dig that's how I come off, I get that. Similar to how I don't bait when I deer hunt. I like to still hunt but if watching over a bait pile is what people think hunting is to them it's okay by me if that's the way they want to do it because they don't affect me. Snowmobilers going 80 have affected me because I ride the trails very little because of them. I live right on a trail and those brapping pipes have affected me.

I understand the excitement of getting here, getting the sleds unloaded and hitting the trails or backcountry and how cool that must be but the stuff you miss going 80 is astounding.

Life is not a race and the U.P. is not a racetrack.

Maybe I feel like I do because I do live here. Our riding is us going out to our cabin, hanging out there, doing chores, making some good food and riding the backcountry. Snowmobiling is secondary to just being with family and friends. We ride a lot and immerse ourselves in it. When I got home from work tonight me son was testing out his Phazer mod (races this Saturday ant the South Range Club). He made me check out how the clutch was working great, finally, as soon as I stepped out of my car and i took it for a rip, and yes, fast.

I could text more of my ramblings but I'm tired and need to get some sleep.


To be continued l....
Well I work hard all week and I don't see any fun in digging and pulling my sled out of butt-deep snow in an area that I'm not sure is public or not. So I ride trails and I guarantee you that as far back as there were trails, some people were going as fast as they can on them. If you think I'm Joe racer, you're not correct. I got into this thing for the sights, the exploration, and the coolness of the whole thing. I very rarely open it up. As a matter of fact, I think I've pretty much seen every trail, lake and tree that I need to see, and I'm probably near the end of my sledding days.
 

1fujifilm

Well-known member
Why would you believe that you would have to take a lower paying job here? The U.P. isn't another planet where it's that different. Maybe you believe that because you see mostly people in the service industry where they live on tips? Here you have to have a specific skill set that works.
I had a couple from Rhinelander that moved in down the road from me about 7 years ago. Big snowmobilers and thats why they moved here, both professionals career-wise. They lasted one year and moved. Too much winter. I thought how strange it must be to live in a place like Rhinelander and be a part of that kind of cold but not want a bunch of snow? So strange.
...sorry, I'm going off on another tangent, similar but a bit off.

So trails are strange to me in a few ways. It's strange that people just want them as a place to go fast. If they aren't buttered smooth riders complain. Point A to B to C and back again as fast as possible. Trails have turned into a place for common people to do some sort of racing against themselves. Sure fast is fun but how doesn't that just get boring. It's not very technical to go fast. It's not like there is an actual race going on where you're jockeying for positions and passing riders in your group.
I know I'm sounding terribly negative about snowmobiling but I'm not. I'm pro-snowmobiling and I dig that's how I come off, I get that. Similar to how I don't bait when I deer hunt. I like to still hunt but if watching over a bait pile is what people think hunting is to them it's okay by me if that's the way they want to do it because they don't affect me. Snowmobilers going 80 have affected me because I ride the trails very little because of them. I live right on a trail and those brapping pipes have affected me.

I understand the excitement of getting here, getting the sleds unloaded and hitting the trails or backcountry and how cool that must be but the stuff you miss going 80 is astounding.

Life is not a race and the U.P. is not a racetrack.

Maybe I feel like I do because I do live here. Our riding is us going out to our cabin, hanging out there, doing chores, making some good food and riding the backcountry. Snowmobiling is secondary to just being with family and friends. We ride a lot and immerse ourselves in it. When I got home from work tonight me son was testing out his Phazer mod (races this Saturday ant the South Range Club). He made me check out how the clutch was working great, finally, as soon as I stepped out of my car and i took it for a rip, and yes, fast.

I could text more of my ramblings but I'm tired and need to get some sleep.


To be continued l....

I am not currently a Polaris rider but think the moniker/model "XCR" (Cross-Country Racer) kicks .
When I used to ride the Freda-Loop or the Eagle-Harbor loop I think; "why don't they make these one-way trails and have time trials on them"..big fun.
I am 53 and ride hard (too many miles and too fast sometimes) so I can remember what my BMX, dirt-bike or even Skiing racing days.
It's great to feel young.

Bear
 
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POLARISDAN

New member
Why would you believe that you would have to take a lower paying job here? The U.P. isn't another planet where it's that different. Maybe you believe that because you see mostly people in the service industry where they live on tips? Here you have to have a specific skill set that works.
I had a couple from Rhinelander that moved in down the road from me about 7 years ago. Big snowmobilers and thats why they moved here, both professionals career-wise. They lasted one year and moved. Too much winter. I thought how strange it must be to live in a place like Rhinelander and be a part of that kind of cold but not want a bunch of snow? So strange.
...sorry, I'm going off on another tangent, similar but a bit off.

So trails are strange to me in a few ways. It's strange that people just want them as a place to go fast. If they aren't buttered smooth riders complain. Point A to B to C and back again as fast as possible. Trails have turned into a place for common people to do some sort of racing against themselves. Sure fast is fun but how doesn't that just get boring. It's not very technical to go fast. It's not like there is an actual race going on where you're jockeying for positions and passing riders in your group.
I know I'm sounding terribly negative about snowmobiling but I'm not. I'm pro-snowmobiling and I dig that's how I come off, I get that. Similar to how I don't bait when I deer hunt. I like to still hunt but if watching over a bait pile is what people think hunting is to them it's okay by me if that's the way they want to do it because they don't affect me. Snowmobilers going 80 have affected me because I ride the trails very little because of them. I live right on a trail and those brapping pipes have affected me.

I understand the excitement of getting here, getting the sleds unloaded and hitting the trails or backcountry and how cool that must be but the stuff you miss going 80 is astounding.

Life is not a race and the U.P. is not a racetrack.

Maybe I feel like I do because I do live here. Our riding is us going out to our cabin, hanging out there, doing chores, making some good food and riding the backcountry. Snowmobiling is secondary to just being with family and friends. We ride a lot and immerse ourselves in it. When I got home from work tonight me son was testing out his Phazer mod (races this Saturday ant the South Range Club). He made me check out how the clutch was working great, finally, as soon as I stepped out of my car and i took it for a rip, and yes, fast.

I could text more of my ramblings but I'm tired and need to get some sleep.


To be continued l....

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Well put Sandylake! Agree with all!

Really..with this friggin windbag?
 

whitedust

Well-known member
Thread started out as a plowing truck across trail encounter has taken a turn to a riding style debate. There is no correct answer to this so just be tolerant of everyone from , fast to putt put and be safe. Who cares what type of sled anyone rides buy and ride what you want. Some like FR riding, some like powder off trail , some like to wick it up on grades and twistys. Some like to putt put and sight see. Why should anyone care???? Do what you like to do don’t judge others everyone is different. Imo don’t try and force your will on others to me that’s offensive and no ones business but your own.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
Thread started out as a plowing truck across trail encounter has taken a turn to a riding style debate. There is no correct answer to this so just be tolerant of everyone from , fast to putt put and be safe. Who cares what type of sled anyone rides buy and ride what you want. Some like FR riding, some like powder off trail , some like to wick it up on grades and twistys. Some like to putt put and sight see. Why should anyone care???? Do what you like to do don’t judge others everyone is different. Imo don’t try and force your will on others to me that’s offensive and no ones business but your own.

I agree with your post ...except when the slow putt putt sightseer becomes a self appointed trail cop and does all he can to keep you behind him



We see this behavior on the highway as well
 

timo

Well-known member
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I am not currently a Polaris rider but think the moniker/model "XCR" (Cross-Country Racer) kicks.
When I used to ride the Freda-Loop or the Eagle-Harbor loop I think; "why don't they make these one-way trails and have time trials on them"..big fun.
I am 53 and ride hard (too many miles and too fast sometimes) so I can remember what my BMX, dirt-bike or even Skiing racing days.
It's great to feel young.

Bear

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your free to stop anytime,,,,please


Why would you believe that you would have to take a lower paying job here? The U.P. isn't another planet where it's that different. Maybe you believe that because you see mostly people in the service industry where they live on tips? Here you have to have a specific skill set that works.
I had a couple from Rhinelander that moved in down the road from me about 7 years ago. Big snowmobilers and thats why they moved here, both professionals career-wise. They lasted one year and moved. Too much winter. I thought how strange it must be to live in a place like Rhinelander and be a part of that kind of cold but not want a bunch of snow? So strange.
...sorry, I'm going off on another tangent, similar but a bit off.

So trails are strange to me in a few ways. It's strange that people just want them as a place to go fast. If they aren't buttered smooth riders complain. Point A to B to C and back again as fast as possible. Trails have turned into a place for common people to do some sort of racing against themselves. Sure fast is fun but how doesn't that just get boring. It's not very technical to go fast. It's not like there is an actual race going on where you're jockeying for positions and passing riders in your group.
I know I'm sounding terribly negative about snowmobiling but I'm not. I'm pro-snowmobiling and I dig that's how I come off, I get that. Similar to how I don't bait when I deer hunt. I like to still hunt but if watching over a bait pile is what people think hunting is to them it's okay by me if that's the way they want to do it because they don't affect me. Snowmobilers going 80 have affected me because I ride the trails very little because of them. I live right on a trail and those brapping pipes have affected me.

I understand the excitement of getting here, getting the sleds unloaded and hitting the trails or backcountry and how cool that must be but the stuff you miss going 80 is astounding.

Life is not a race and the U.P. is not a racetrack.

Maybe I feel like I do because I do live here. Our riding is us going out to our cabin, hanging out there, doing chores, making some good food and riding the backcountry. Snowmobiling is secondary to just being with family and friends. We ride a lot and immerse ourselves in it. When I got home from work tonight me son was testing out his Phazer mod (races this Saturday ant the South Range Club). He made me check out how the clutch was working great, finally, as soon as I stepped out of my car and i took it for a rip, and yes, fast.

I could text more of my ramblings but I'm tired and need to get some sleep.


To be continued l....
 
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Sandylake

New member
I agree with your post ...except when the slow putt putt sightseer becomes a self appointed trail cop and does all he can to keep you behind him



We see this behavior on the highway as well

I'm a slow driver on the roads too and only go about 60mph on the local highways. I dont go slow because I want to keep anyone behind me but because I want to get where I going without dying. Leave earlier and there is no reason to be in such a rush.
 

POLARISDAN

New member
I'm a slow driver on the roads too and only go about 60mph on the local highways. I dont go slow because I want to keep anyone behind me but because I want to get where I going without dying. Leave earlier and there is no reason to be in such a rush.

well ur not welcome in SD where speed limit is 80..or ND where speed is 75..which equates to 90-100 and 85 to 95..

your just ridiculous
 

1fujifilm

Well-known member
I'm a slow driver on the roads too and only go about 60mph on the local highways. I dont go slow because I want to keep anyone behind me but because I want to get where I going without dying. Leave earlier and there is no reason to be in such a rush.

You are more apt to cause an accident by driving timidly than be in an accident leading the pack.

Bear
 

old abe

Well-known member
You are more apt to cause an accident by driving timidly than be in an accident leading the pack.

Bear

I'll argue that all day with you fuji! Been in a big truck most of my life, never wrecked one either. But I can tell ya I've seen way too many wrecks. The guy/gal on the gas, or weaving in, and out, causes way more accidents than those who are driving a responsible steady pace. In the past 20, or so years, inconsiderate, get the ---- out of the way, and just plain don't give a hoot idiots, and their driving habits has got to the point of none other than reckless behavior! Once as I approached a lane closure, a idiot from behind thought he had enough speed to blow by me in time? He was wrong, first time I witnessed the "water barrels" crash slow down effect! What a dumb a--! Ill State Police setting in the median watched the whole thing! Just amazing ignorance! Just last week, on the way back from delivering a load of beans to the river terminal, I signaled that I was moving to the left lane. I was changing lanes due to emergency vehicles stopped on the right hand side shoulder, a dumb a--, in a pickup truck had to take to the median to keep from hitting me, as I had slowed from 70, down to 55. He was out of control, and still had to be going way over 70, as he passed me so fast! One of the ILL State Police vehicles proceeded to chase him down, stop him, and did. Again, amazing idiots!
 
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Sandylake

New member
well ur not welcome in SD where speed limit is 80..or ND where speed is 75..which equates to 90-100 and 85 to 95..

your just ridiculous

I'm not welcome there because you said so?

On interstate or freeways/expressways I travel the same as I do anywhere, about 5 miles an hour above the speed limit and that's still wrong?
So how much above the speed limit should I be going to be correct for you?

Please enlighten me with your part time yooper knowledge.

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You are more apt to cause an accident by driving timidly than be in an accident leading the pack.

Bear

Timidly?

I should drive the opposite of that which would be aggressively?

How about driving defensively?

I'll ask you too, how much over the posted speed limit should I travel?
 

whitedust

Well-known member
I'm not welcome there because you said so?

On interstate or freeways/expressways I travel the same as I do anywhere, about 5 miles an hour above the speed limit and that's still wrong?
So how much above the speed limit should I be going to be correct for you?

Please enlighten me with your part time yooper knowledge.

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Timidly?

I should drive the opposite of that which would be aggressively?

How about driving defensively?

I'll ask you too, how much over the posted speed limit should I travel?

Just my opinion everyone should stay in their comfort zone driving in good clear road conditions on dry roads within 7 mph over. Of course it varies all over everyone is different but I find from interstates and most 2 lane highways the cops let you blow thru traps if you keep it to 7 over. Again drive however you want not my business to tell you what to do just be safe. Just what I do.
 
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