Vilas and oneida

[indy_500]

 

[indy_500]

Some pics from Sunday! They did get 1-2” last night, and supposed to get 2-3” between Thursday night and Saturday morning. Between that giving groomers something to work with, and the cold temps, trails should be in great shape this weekend!

 

[hermie]

Hermie, is that. hanks Gresham Lodge on Trail 51? I thought that closed because he was having issues with LDF targeting his business.

Yes Paul that is the place . It's the 3rd owner since it was Popes. Yes the 1st owner got ran out as from what I have heard his wife was talking bad about the natives and she had to split for her safety. The 2nd one happened to buy when we had a bad winter and didn't make it so now owner 3 is giving it a go. They may have a chance if winter can keep going.

 

[hermie]

That is always a cool spot to take a picture in sugar camp Indy.

 

[dfattack]

Well, got it home! Went back up to Antigo Monday. Brought just about every tool I had with me. The real winner was my generator and angle grinder with cutoff wheel to get the inner race of the inner bearing off the spindle. Unfortunately the axle is toast as the bottom side of the spindle is all chewed up where the inner bearing presses on. I threw on a generic non brake hub and bearings from fleet farm to limp it home, the inner bearing only had 75% surface contact on the spindle but it worked well enough to go 50 mph down backroads. Ordered up a new fully dressed axle from badger trailer, owner is hopeful I can get it by the end of the week.

I’m curious since I’ve never had this happen to me. What can we do to prevent this from happening? Regular hub maintenance? I’m sure you stay on top of this so that’s why I’m a little confused

 

[hermie]

I’m curious since I’ve never had this happen to me. What can we do to prevent this from happening? Regular hub maintenance? I’m sure you stay on top of this so that’s why I’m a little confused

Grease the spindle in the fall if it has a grease zerk which most do now days. Jack it up spin the wheels and make sure it spins freely without any noise coming from the bearings. If you really want to make sure all is good take the bearings out to really give them a good inspection and repack with brand new grease every fall. Also if you regrease with zerk make sure grease isn't just coming out of the rear seal.

 

[dfattack]

Grease the spindle in the fall if it has a grease zerk which most do now days. Jack it up spin the wheels and make sure it spins freely without any noise coming from the bearings. If you really want to make sure all is good take the bearings out to really give them a good inspection and repack with brand new grease every fall. Also if you regrease with zerk make sure grease isn't just coming out of the rear seal.

I have a legend enclosed trailer. I don’t see any fittings on the hub. Just a cap. Any chance the axles on my trailer uses a different type or are all axles needing this maintenance? I don’t recall ever servicing the axles, only making sure brakes are adjusted.

Man I hate going on this site on my iPhone.

 

[scoobydoo]

Rode Fri, Sat, Sun. I would say we had 80 percent good trails. It is so nice to b riding the trails any direction I want to go. A little new snow would b great.

 

[indy_500]

I’m curious since I’ve never had this happen to me. What can we do to prevent this from happening? Regular hub maintenance? I’m sure you stay on top of this so that’s why I’m a little confused

My trailer is a 2024 model year with I believe around 7k miles on it. I put 5 pumps of grease into each bearing buddy zerk every other trip, which is around every 500 miles. I am quite baffled this happened to me, as most think I grease them more than I need to. I did a year ago pull a hub off to inspect a brake, and it was full of grease. This wrecked hub had no sign of any grease, because the heat generated burned it all off. Brakes can also fail, and lock up, and generate a bunch of heat to the point it burns the grease off and wrecks the bearing, not sure that was my case as it was towing just fine. Taking the brake style hub off every year and manually repacking and inspecting everything will become a part of my yearly maintenance.

In talking with badger trailer, who repairs a lot of axles, I believe it may have been the road conditions on hwy 51 around new years. 1-2” thick ice pack with “potholes” in the ice. It was the roughest ride I’ve ever experienced, and I think it may have wrecked my bearing.

 

[Tuck]

The only concern I have with zerks is grease getting to the inner bearing enough. I pull mine every other year inspect, replace or repack bearings and brakes look at. So far knock on wood no on the road issues. Each round trip is minimum 800 miles depending on where we go. I always do a quick check of listening to wheels and checking the zerk spring bushing thingy in the center of hub between trips as well. Any rough road with torsion springs jars everything.

 

[dfattack]

My trailer is a 2024 model year with I believe around 7k miles on it. I put 5 pumps of grease into each bearing buddy zerk every other trip, which is around every 500 miles. I am quite baffled this happened to me, as most think I grease them more than I need to. I did a year ago pull a hub off to inspect a brake, and it was full of grease. This wrecked hub had no sign of any grease, because the heat generated burned it all off. Brakes can also fail, and lock up, and generate a bunch of heat to the point it burns the grease off and wrecks the bearing, not sure that was my case as it was towing just fine. Taking the brake style hub off every year and manually repacking and inspecting everything will become a part of my yearly maintenance.

In talking with badger trailer, who repairs a lot of axles, I believe it may have been the road conditions on hwy 51 around new years. 1-2” thick ice pack with “potholes” in the ice. It was the roughest ride I’ve ever experienced, and I think it may have wrecked my bearing.

I figured you were all over it and that’s why I was a bit confused. Thanks for the clarification

 

[euphoric1]

I have a legend enclosed trailer. I don’t see any fittings on the hub. Just a cap. Any chance the axles on my trailer uses a different type or are all axles needing this maintenance? I don’t recall ever servicing the axles, only making sure brakes are adjusted.

Man I hate going on this site on my iPhone.

Darren, that may just be a decorative cap, some were just chrome, some had a rubber seal in top of them you would have to remove to access grease zerk, I would be very surprised now a days if it didn't have either a bearing buddy under the cap or a grease zerk in the end of axle. That 27' enclosed trailer I had also had those chrome caps and I actually had to remove my wheel as the chrome cap was decorative but could not remove without removing the wheel to access the bearing cap, which had the half dollar size rubber cap in the top of bearing cap. Every year I would grease bearings until I had clean grease coming out of bearing cap around where rubber seal was. that would ensure I had clean grease in the bearing and also be able to tell if rear seal was still good. I would also rotate wheel at same time a little to ensure full distribution because grease will always take its shortest path out. The other thing I would do is grab wheel and try to rock it to be sure bearings were tight as taper roller bearings like some side load, if they get loose it doesn't matter how well greased they are, they will fail. the looseness can be tightened by adjusting axle nut, you do it by feel as you do not want too much side load and not enough either, both will end up in bearing failure. Also jacking up trailer you can rotate trailer tire and see if there is any bearing noise, if there is don't just grease them to quiet them down... replace them, bearings and races. I also like to use marine wheel bearing grease, less impervious to water and salt in case you have a seal that isn't 100%. I never take for granted my bearings are good just because I squirt a little grease in them once in a while. Sorry so long winded, hope this helps.

 

[pclark]

Yes Paul that is the place . It's the 3rd owner since it was Popes. Yes the 1st owner got ran out as from what I have heard his wife was talking bad about the natives and she had to split for her safety. The 2nd one happened to buy when we had a bad winter and didn't make it so now owner 3 is giving it a go. They may have a chance if winter can keep going.

Thanks Hermie, always a good stop.

 

[dfattack]

Darren, that may just be a decorative cap, some were just chrome, some had a rubber seal in top of them you would have to remove to access grease zerk, I would be very surprised now a days if it didn't have either a bearing buddy under the cap or a grease zerk in the end of axle. That 27' enclosed trailer I had also had those chrome caps and I actually had to remove my wheel as the chrome cap was decorative but could not remove without removing the wheel to access the bearing cap, which had the half dollar size rubber cap in the top of bearing cap. Every year I would grease bearings until I had clean grease coming out of bearing cap around where rubber seal was. that would ensure I had clean grease in the bearing and also be able to tell if rear seal was still good. I would also rotate wheel at same time a little to ensure full distribution because grease will always take its shortest path out. The other thing I would do is grab wheel and try to rock it to be sure bearings were tight as taper roller bearings like some side load, if they get loose it doesn't matter how well greased they are, they will fail. the looseness can be tightened by adjusting axle nut, you do it by feel as you do not want too much side load and not enough either, both will end up in bearing failure. Also jacking up trailer you can rotate trailer tire and see if there is any bearing noise, if there is don't just grease them to quiet them down... replace them, bearings and races. I also like to use marine wheel bearing grease, less impervious to water and salt in case you have a seal that isn't 100%. I never take for granted my bearings are good just because I squirt a little grease in them once in a while. Sorry so long winded, hope this helps.

Yea that helps for sure. Getting to work on that tomorrow

 

[fishcrib]

Dfattack- you should have the E-Z lube Dexter axles on your Legend trailer.
You should have the chrome caps , just pop it off and do just like euphoric said.