What Are Your Use Plans for AC 200/ Yam Sno Scoot?

[scoot]

Unless things change in the sport, there's a whole bunch of folks that no longer intend on trail riding again. Its not surprising that the people that only spend real money on their own sled and let the wife and kids/grandkids ride their leftovers or used sleds will never get the 200s. I've got seven sleds that haven't left our property in several years. And I even help maintain our local trails. I've got two 200s ordered for the grandkids. And if/when they come out with new 250 sized sleds they can mark me down for two of those too.

 

[whitedust]

Time will tell where this 200 goes. It's really tough to say. I did snow check a few of them and I've had calls from ice fisherman that want it just because they can pick it up with ease. Should make a nice unit for pit sleds and odds and ends. I can see where fisherman getting up in age would like the lightness of it. Unfortunately our strength doesn't increase with age!!! LOL!!! Sometimes the machines we all think are flops find a way to become successful. Guess we will see I honestly thought the price was decent. Not saying it's cheap but it's much better value than a 120 in my opinion and much more versatile.

I always thought the 120 market was super narrow and the fisherman 200 is how I saw many old Scoots being used + kids at home in their yards. To me the 200 is completely out classed on trails but someone will trail ride them. It seems to me all OEMS have the EPA credits to tool up and mfg new 2s carb 340s to give the early teens & preteens a trail sled. The old 300,340 and 440 sleds are very old in the tooth and becoming rare finds. There are still a few 340 Indy lites around but not many Indy lite deluxe with electric start and reverse. Why are the OEMS missing this market opportunity?

 

[old abe]

I always thought the 120 market was super narrow and the fisherman 200 is how I saw many old Scoots being used + kids at home in their yards. To me the 200 is completely out classed on trails but someone will trail ride them. It seems to me all OEMS have the EPA credits to tool up and mfg new 2s carb 340s to give the early teens & preteens a trail sled. The old 300,340 and 440 sleds are very old in the tooth and becoming rare finds. There are still a few 340 Indy lites around but not many Indy lite deluxe with electric start and reverse. Why are the OEMS missing this market opportunity?

Oh the older 300 to 440 sleds are out there WD. Just have to find them. All kind of ways to do so now with internet/social media, and auctions. Many are in really good shape, and not being used. Many find people are not trying to sell, but will do so when asked if they would. Ours are mostly our own original purchases, but 2 we picked up used. One neighbor has picked up quite a few for just this purpose.

 

[Hoosier]

I have to disagree someone will take these 3/4 sleds on trail so be prepared to wait. For me I would not even think about passing 200s or Scoot on twistys or grade with top speed of 30mph. Once spotted I would drop back and wait for complete group stop then pass after they all pulled over and stopped. We all know Ricky will charge by which is completely crazy but happens all the time oncoming and passing. There will be more and more 3/4 sleds on trail as their numbers increase so something has to give sharing trails with 200 HP sleds. IDK the solution but it will be a new problem we all have to deal with.

I would love to see more families out on the trails, even if going slow. If someone has to wait a few miles to get around them, big deal.

If you're a ricky and in too much of a hurry to get your miles racked up for the day - remember, it could be worse. Wait till the fat tire riders start insisting on "sharing" more trails...

 

[old abe]

Family riding always the most enjoyable!!! Right on Hoosier!!! You nailed it.

 

[Woodtic]

I trail ride a 500 Edge when the trails are good and I am with slower riders. We pass more 800 cc sleds than anything else. The reason the MFG's don't make 340s and 440s,is because they don't sell. They can't compete with all of the clean used ones out there that can be had for $1200. Was told this by a MFG rep a few years ago and it makes total sense.

 

[whitedust]

Idk guys I see Rickys everytime out sometimes side by side hauling A$$ always oncoming on Twistys. I don't think they will wait for group stops to pass 200s they are going to pass 30 mph sleds like a bull in a china shop. I understand posters in this thread are respectful riders but so many are not. I think 3/4 sledders are at risk out there on under powered machines and would be better off on 340s or 440s. To me riding at 30mph on Twistys or Grades is too slow and at risk for the rider same thing with Fat Bikes. I remember a lady being run over and killed on Trail 3 last year when she got off her sled. I don't know how that ended up for the rider that ran her over but I hope the law came down on him. No excuse for that imo.

 

[old abe]

Yes that was a real bad deal indeed WD. Family out to enjoy riding, and a really bad ending!!! So sad those children had to lose there mother.

 

[snobuilder]

Slow and novice riders need to be aware of faster riders on the trail.... it is common sense survival.....don't play in freeway traffic. Snow trails are no place to make a stand and prove you're slow and right and everyone else is wrong. That being said, being dumb and slow on the sled freeway will 99.9% of the time never harm you in any way except you're imagination due to the courtesy of most experienced fast riding sledders who are IN control in any condition. We are always able to stop in time no matter what ill conceived decision you slow riders come up with. It is what we know how to do. We expect you around every corner, much like there will be a small brained deer around every corner as well. We know you are out there ...no worries....we don't want ANY of your DNA on our machines....I drive my B A truck with the same control over the common road idiots out there.

 

[ezra]

remember, it could be worse. Wait till the fat tire riders start insisting on "sharing" more trails...

in states like MN WI and MI I say let them try . they will need to get there own land owner permits signed get there own land owner insurance .
I don't see a lot of farmers opening up to the hipster DB in his skinny jeans pulling up in the BMW telling him he is going to be using the snowmobile trail on his land because it is a right . so sign here

 

[Hoosier]

in states like MN WI and MI I say let them try . they will need to get there own land owner permits signed get there own land owner insurance .
I don't see a lot of farmers opening up to the hipster DB in his skinny jeans pulling up in the BMW telling him he is going to be using the snowmobile trail on his land because it is a right . so sign here

That's good to know. I have to drive around enough of the spandex wearers trying to get to work in the warmer months. Don't feel like dodging them on the trail too.

 

[Hoosier]

Slow and novice riders need to be aware of faster riders on the trail....

That's 100% true but it's 100% backwards too. A "most experienced fast riding sledder" has no more right to be on the trail than anyone else.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to take a 200 out on trail 3 or 8 on a Saturday afternoon. I'd guess you'd see these if anywhere out on the less traveled trails.

It all comes down to being aware you aren't the only person out there - strange concept for people these days to think of someone besides themselves. If you're going out with your kids and one of them is on a 200, you need to pick where you are riding appropriately. If you're a roided up ricky who can't sit still till you hit 300 miles for the day (not you SB), at least you can slow down a bit when someone is coming the other direction or lord help you, take in some scenery or wait till a stop sign to blast past a family group poking down the trail.

 

[old abe]

That's 100% true but it's 100% backwards too. A "most experienced fast riding sledder" has no more right to be on the trail than anyone else.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to take a 200 out on trail 3 or 8 on a Saturday afternoon. I'd guess you'd see these if anywhere out on the less traveled trails.

It all comes down to being aware you aren't the only person out there - strange concept for people these days to think of someone besides themselves. If you're going out with your kids and one of them is on a 200, you need to pick where you are riding appropriately. If you're a roided up ricky who can't sit still till you hit 300 miles for the day (not you SB), at least you can slow down a bit when someone is coming the other direction or lord help you, take in some scenery or wait till a stop sign to blast past a family group poking down the trail.

As a older friend of mine used to say. There's too much "To ---- with you, and hurray for me" in this world anymore. He passed 20 years ago. I often wonder what he would have to say now days???

 

[snobuilder]

That's 100% true but it's 100% backwards too. A "most experienced fast riding sledder" has no more right to be on the trail than anyone else.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to take a 200 out on trail 3 or 8 on a Saturday afternoon. I'd guess you'd see these if anywhere out on the less traveled trails.

It all comes down to being aware you aren't the only person out there - strange concept for people these days to think of someone besides themselves. If you're going out with your kids and one of them is on a 200, you need to pick where you are riding appropriately. If you're a roided up ricky who can't sit still till you hit 300 miles for the day (not you SB), at least you can slow down a bit when someone is coming the other direction or lord help you, take in some scenery or wait till a stop sign to blast past a family group poking down the trail.

No need to crop my quote, is there?...unless you want to twist my message.

(in reference to bold #2), my post was the exact opposite. I clearly said that us faster riders are well aware of the slow riders, did I not?
I also try to calm the fears of many (slow riders, i assume) on here who season after season plead with everyone to slow down to their style of snowmobiling.

I'd like to see a slow rider make an attempt to give as much peace of mind to us fast riders that they too will be more aware of US.

In no way did my post state that we fast riders think we have more rights to the trails as you tried to allude to. (bold #1)

I say you all have a right to ride any legal sized snowmobile on any trail that is open, any day of the week any time of day. I for one will be expecting you around every corner....LOL

 

[Hoosier]

No need to crop my quote, is there?...unless you want to twist my message.

(in reference to bold #2), my post was the exact opposite. I clearly said that us faster riders are well aware of the slow riders, did I not?
I also try to calm the fears of many (slow riders, i assume) on here who season after season plead with everyone to slow down to their style of snowmobiling.

I'd like to see a slow rider make an attempt to give as much peace of mind to us fast riders that they too will be more aware of US.

In no way did my post state that we fast riders think we have more rights to the trails as you tried to allude to. (bold #1)

I say you all have a right to ride any legal sized snowmobile on any trail that is open, any day of the week any time of day. I for one will be expecting you around every corner....LOL

Not intending to try to twist your message.

 

[Woodtic]

Hoosier,you have nailed it on the head. Couldn't have said it better my self.

 

[G]

A 200 on the trail is no different than anything else on the trail. They need to stay right and stop for stop signs and be respectful to other riders. One good thing about the 200's is that I don't look for too many of them to be blowing corners. That is more of a problem for the 'more experienced riders'. I hope I see whole packs of 200's on the trails. They are the future. Realistically though they are a yard toy. A really fun yard toy that will be of a lot more use than a 120.

 

[snobuilder]

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A 200 on the trail is no different than anything else on the trail. They need to stay right and stop for stop signs and be respectful to other riders. One good thing about the 200's is that I don't look for too many of them to be blowing corners. That is more of a problem for the 'more experienced riders'. I hope I see whole packs of 200's on the trails. They are the future. Realistically though they are a yard toy. A really fun yard toy that will be of a lot more use than a 120.

What does stopping at stop signs have to do with cc's?...L O L
I might buy a new 200 just to blow by some of the 6 and 8 hundred slow trackers....lol

 

[confusion_900]

Before you know it someone will be coming out with motor mod's for the 200's and will become 300's or 340's then they for sure will be blowing right by me on my 800 LOL

 

[ezra]

Before you know it someone will be coming out with motor mod's for the 200's and will become 300's or 340's then they for sure will be blowing right by me on my 800 LOL

they already exist in go cart racing . nothing but a glorified lawn mower motor just like the 120 . have u looked at the break system on this little toy what a joke 10 speed stuff