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xcr440

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Yup, lets just stay home until they have that magic "You'll never get sick again" pill. How long are you willing to wait for it?
 
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You are missing the point entirely. The sooner everybody is exposed the better. Then we can get back to normal. Many more have been exposed and have either gotten over it or showed no symptoms than is being reported. They don't know because there is no test for antibodies that is being widely distributed. I truly believe I had it back in February. I know a lot of people that also believe they already had it. The powers that be are operating on misinformation and guesswork. The stats in MN say that 95 percent of the fatalities in MN are in long term care facilities. Check out those stats for yourself. Yes the meat packing plants have a bunch of cases. How many are dying? Not very many if any. In two weeks they will back to work. And then that segment of the food chain will be restored. We won't have to worry about that going forward. Everybody is going to get it. Get used to the idea. And when you do you will more than likely survive just fine.
 
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goofy600 said:
Dfattack I would agree with the kids part but a lot of the work force could be affected older teachers and teachers with health concerns. But like I said don’t have an answer for that part, do you make it like the meat plants and make it essential work or what? I’m just glad I don’t have to make that decision like the government has to we ( my wife and I) only have to make the decision for our family if we feel safe for her to go back to work next fall when school opens again as of now she is online teaching and doing the best she can for her kids.
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Well again, have schools open and if there are any teachers in the "at risk" catagory let them stay home (with pay) and bring in substitute teachers. I'm not an expert in the education world but I went to school once upon a time and we did have teachers aids and substitute teachers. We are only talking weeks or a few months. It would seem to me this could have been done.

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OK, but the kids are taught by adults, fed by adults, supervised by adults. Assuming you are correct about kids not being sick, the process of bringing them all together involves a lot of adults that can get sick and spread the virus.
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same answer for you as for goofy. I agree what you are saying is true, but what I'm saying is I think we could have dealt with it successfully, especially based on the data that is coming out daily.
 
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grub said:
You are missing the point entirely. The sooner everybody is exposed the better. Then we can get back to normal. Many more have been exposed and have either gotten over it or showed no symptoms than is being reported. They don't know because there is no test for antibodies that is being widely distributed. I truly believe I had it back in February. I know a lot of people that also believe they already had it. The powers that be are operating on misinformation and guesswork. The stats in MN say that 95 percent of the fatalities in MN are in long term care facilities. Check out those stats for yourself. Yes the meat packing plants have a bunch of cases. How many are dying? Not very many if any. In two weeks they will back to work. And then that segment of the food chain will be restored. We won't have to worry about that going forward. Everybody is going to get it. Get used to the idea. And when you do you will more than likely survive just fine.
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I was wondering how many of the meat packing plant people get the flu every year and how the businesses cope with that? Just a hunch but I would be willing to bet the people who get the flu stay home until they are better and maybe even a few tough it out and continue to work. This would then help the spread between workers of course. But the main point here is that the plant stayed open and produced a product. NOT shutting down completely because someone doesn't feel good.

My point on this thread and all the others that have been discussed on JD is the governments reaction to the entire crisis. In the beginning we didn't have data and a lot of unknowns. I"m sure many of us had hunches but that's all they were. Many of us were for the most part correct in thinking it was an over reaction and continues to be...especially in the obvious leftist run states. Our rights and freedoms need to be protected at all costs...period. We can't let the career politicians take that away from us ever. I'm sure The founding fathers would not stand for what's going on in our country today...and yes there were plagues/pandemics for 1,000's of years before they wrote the constitution.
 
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The New York Times reports that the United States Chamber of Commerce estimates “more than 40 percent of the nation’s 30 million small businesses could close permanently in the next six months” —

When this is done.....
 
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snobuilder

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grub said:
Not saying we could have gotten to herd immunity JUST by letting the schools stay open. But it would have been a good first step. Yes grandma would have been at risk and the teachers would have had to be in moonsuits. Not a perfect solution to any of this. Six months from now we will be smarter.
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You and I are not in Moonsuits and are still alive and posting, and so would be the teachers....we have more face to face retail everyday....WAAAAY more that some small mom and pop or and government considered...'NON ESSENTIAL" could ever possibly face....yet they are ordered to remain CLOSED...til further notice from the government.

Isn't that the basic definition of tyranny?


no BS....we are in contact with 3X more customers since they were told to stay at home......WE are their/"YOUR" current "social accepted" social outlet.....no bars,...no restaurants....yee haww lets go the H Depot, Menards and lowes,....then stop off at the Fleet Farm.... and Fleet on the way home!.....LMAO....Stay scared, dweebs.....VERY scared.
 
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candyman said:
The New York Times reports that the United States Chamber of Commerce estimates “more than 40 percent of the nation’s 30 million small businesses could close permanently in the next six months” —
When this is done.....
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And now the big 4 meat packers are planning a work slow down/stoppage
In retaliation to Trumps mandated forced stay open. Enjoy your vegetables folks.
I have 3 acres of heirloom seeds planted if anybody gets hungry.
 
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dcsnomo said:
OK, but the kids are taught by adults, fed by adults, supervised by adults. Assuming you are correct about kids not being sick, the process of bringing them all together involves a lot of adults that can get sick and spread the virus.
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Schools are germ factories. Who knows how many kids are passing what between each other, then passed to their parent, then passed to who knows where. I don't have any problem with schools closing. No big deal to me.

I have learned from being on this discussion board that most opinions are different than mine. I'm ok with that. As long as you are. Opinions are like a-holes, we all have one and most of us don't want anything to do with the next guys.
 
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snobuilder said:
You and I are not in Moonsuits and are still alive and posting, and so would be the teachers....we have more face to face retail everyday....WAAAAY more that some small mom and pop or and government considered...'NON ESSENTIAL" could ever possibly face....yet they are ordered to remain CLOSED...til further notice from the government.

Isn't that the basic definition of tyranny?


no BS....we are in contact with 3X more customers since they were told to stay at home......WE are their/"YOUR" current "social accepted" social outlet.....no bars,...no restaurants....yee haww lets go the H Depot, Menards and lowes,....then stop off at the Fleet Farm.... and Fleet on the way home!.....LMAO....Stay scared, dweebs.....VERY scared.
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But fear is such a great motivater

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highhertel said:
And now the big 4 meat packers are planning a work slow down/stoppage
In retaliation to Trumps mandated forced stay open. Enjoy your vegetables folks.
I have 3 acres of heirloom seeds planted if anybody gets hungry.
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Have not seen that. The motivation is to get caught up.
 
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The masses are like cattle. Easily herded. Very short memory. Dumber than a box of sheet. And that is all being demonstrated right now. The media has an easy job.
 
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highhertel said:
Silver Lake College near Manitowoc shutting down.
What a wonderful institution started by the Franciscan Sisters.
Back in the day, I attended career day and gave presentation
for insurance career. Could still hear the nuns yelling at the college students.
Brought back memories of my parochial days.


Online teaching may be only choice some day, hope not though.
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400 less Catholic college educated people/year ain't a big deal, or a bad thing.
 
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Edgewood College laying off staff. UW system has a $70M spending cut (minimum) to deal with. Think there will be layoffs/closures at the state public colleges?
 
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highhertel said:
Edgewood College laying off staff. UW system has a $70M spending cut (minimum) to deal with. Think there will be layoffs/closures at the state public colleges?
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More Adjuncts being brought-in/positions converted too.

As a past Adjunct Professor at the local Green Bay, WI Community College this has been the reality for 10+ years.
Check their webpage for jobs and 80% are adjuncts.


Sad, but WI cannot afford to offer teaching positions that pay 12 months of the year (while teaching 9 months), with high-expense benefits (like retirement after 20 years) and allow appeals for every little things a Union see's fit.
It took a pandemic to straighten out what private-business figured out 20 years ago.

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