yes we have!...........
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Why do we need snowmobile clubs???
- Thread starter MOTOSKI
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yes we have!...........
trailblazer
New member
The question still needed to be asked. People need to know how things work. GOOD JOB MOTOSKI!
Ezra your the man!!
EZRA YOUR THE MAN!! :>) This thread had the feeling of a set up for a soapbox & you flushed motoski out you clever guy. This is the crap I can't STAND HIDDEN AGENDAS. Motoski why do you want to deceive fellow JD members??? We can talk about pros & cons of clubs but don't set people up with a false dummie post just so you & your buds can blow your horn. I'm gald I didn't get sucked in & I give credit to Ezra for exposing you.lol
Ezra you are right i do know the answer i have been involved with a club for 30 years just wanted to see if we here on john dee were on the same page great responses
EZRA YOUR THE MAN!! :>) This thread had the feeling of a set up for a soapbox & you flushed motoski out you clever guy. This is the crap I can't STAND HIDDEN AGENDAS. Motoski why do you want to deceive fellow JD members??? We can talk about pros & cons of clubs but don't set people up with a false dummie post just so you & your buds can blow your horn. I'm gald I didn't get sucked in & I give credit to Ezra for exposing you.lol
polarisrider1
New member
We can now refer to thread as Clubgate & motoski is Deep Throat. What a sham!!! lol
Don't bash the thread. It has been one of the better ones in here. At least it is not oil this time. Good things have been covered. So what if motoski set it up. The topic was covered well.
Golden Rule
If zero thread credibility is a good thing in your mind then I agree. Responses to this thread in many instances were posted saying OK newbie this is very basic but let me say this yady... yada.... yada. Motoski could have posted the subject in using myriad of constructive methods but he chose the path of deception until Ezra exposed him. Motoski had numerous opportunities to explain his motives but did not until he was exposed. The entire quality of the thread has been tainted due to deception. Everyone was duped & mislead from the get go thinking they were trying to inform an uniformed person. Inexcusable behavior in my opinion & goes against the JD community values. Be honest, be fair, voice your opinion & stay within the JD website rules but don't purposely mislead the community. No need to do that for any reason!!
Don't bash the thread. It has been one of the better ones in here. At least it is not oil this time. Good things have been covered. So what if motoski set it up. The topic was covered well.
If zero thread credibility is a good thing in your mind then I agree. Responses to this thread in many instances were posted saying OK newbie this is very basic but let me say this yady... yada.... yada. Motoski could have posted the subject in using myriad of constructive methods but he chose the path of deception until Ezra exposed him. Motoski had numerous opportunities to explain his motives but did not until he was exposed. The entire quality of the thread has been tainted due to deception. Everyone was duped & mislead from the get go thinking they were trying to inform an uniformed person. Inexcusable behavior in my opinion & goes against the JD community values. Be honest, be fair, voice your opinion & stay within the JD website rules but don't purposely mislead the community. No need to do that for any reason!!
trailblazer
New member
I think this was the best thread in a long time. Big deal if Motoski mislead it. Everything on this post was positive, keep it clean. Whitedust your wrong, if someone would have brought this topicupthat said he belonged to a club----and how much they do, they would have been bashed for bringing it up. It was set up great! We would have not gotten the opinions we got any other way. THANKS JOHN DEE
Good job ezra, well said whitedust!
Now and forever the trust and childlike innocense of the young and/or new member is gone. Future questions from those seeking knowledge will be subject to scrutiny and doubt. Elders and those with answers will fear that this is just a game and they are a pawn. Ha Ha.
You have done alot of damage with your deceptiveness. Does not thy own clubs merit stand on its own? Is this an example of how clubs "open your eyes" ? Short of a rewinding of time, I cannot see how the honest people of the JDee community will ever believe again...
Hang your head Motoski, and your "horn blower" Blu2u2 who was deceptive in the WI Senate Bill SB-406 thread.
Now and forever the trust and childlike innocense of the young and/or new member is gone. Future questions from those seeking knowledge will be subject to scrutiny and doubt. Elders and those with answers will fear that this is just a game and they are a pawn. Ha Ha.
You have done alot of damage with your deceptiveness. Does not thy own clubs merit stand on its own? Is this an example of how clubs "open your eyes" ? Short of a rewinding of time, I cannot see how the honest people of the JDee community will ever believe again...
Hang your head Motoski, and your "horn blower" Blu2u2 who was deceptive in the WI Senate Bill SB-406 thread.
I think this was the best thread in a long time. Big deal if Motoski mislead it. Everything on this post was positive, keep it clean. Whitedust your wrong, if someone would have brought this topicupthat said he belonged to a club----and how much they do, they would have been bashed for bringing it up. It was set up great! We would have not gotten the opinions we got any other way. THANKS JOHN DEE
Add trailblazer to the list of people who think its okay to lie and deceive if it benefits their agenda. Sad, sad, sad.
Well said Sabercat. The JD community is family oriented & we encourage young people to ask questions on weather & snowmobiling. We definitely DO NOT teach deception as an acceptable methodology to get want you want. Now innocent postings will be scrutinized for merit. Are we being duped for someone's personal soap box?. Motoski, Blu2u2 & Trailblazer have no respect for the creditability & honesty of the JD community. Now I wonder if snomo club leadership can be trusted after you admit to manipulation. Yep jerk us around then expect us to embrace you. No way won't happen. Shame Shame Shame on you people & you have tainted clubs by this behavior.
trailblazer
New member
Well spoken, sabercat,ezra, and whitedust. Prime examples of people that more and likely do not belong to a club, and just sit on here and complain about things. (good job folks!) that there is a good role model for kids that read this post too.
StreetnSnow
New member
Even if this thread results in only 1 new club member, it was worthwhile. Lots of great points were made & much of this goes overlooked.
polarisrider1
New member
Even if this thread results in only 1 new club member, it was worthwhile. Lots of great points were made & much of this goes overlooked.
Well put.