Will the new AXYS chassis take Polaris back to #1?

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The more I read and hear about this new chassis the more I like! It sounds like it will be a game changer. If I were a betting man, I'd put money on them going back to #1 this year, especially with nothing new from Doo. Click on the link below for a good test review of the sled and a couple of quotes from that article are below;

"What did we learn? The new Polaris AXYS sleds are freakin’ awesome. We admit it, they’re that good."

"our test team found the new Polaris AXYS models are the best handling sleds in the biz. The ability to rail through the corners with such confidence and maintain such light steering effort was truly amazing."

http://www.snowtechmagazine.com/2015-polaris-axys-800-h-o-first-ride/

Take 3 minutes and watch this video as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hk4yFx86gA

What do you think, can they get back to #1?
 
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kip

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Mark,

I talked to Kevin about his article and he said the AXYS is awesome! The sled looks great and performs great as well. I think it will be a game changer and I believe they will give Ski Doo a run for the money but it will take time. I believe they are determined to get back to number one and they have the product to do it. So lets get the snow checks going!!!!!!!!:)
 
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momoney2123

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Maybe. Maybe not. Given that doo has had the market share since 2003, 12 years is a good run. New front suspension to compliment the best chassis in industy right now, can the AXYS live up? Time will tell. Polaris made a big fuss about the rush in 2010 and as many would say didnt live up to the hype and the polaris video i saw about the AXYS even admitted that, but now is different they said. Altho when I ordered my 2015 doo, 4 other people came in and ordered one too. My dealer said he hasnt had this many spring orders this early ever, his quote was "things must be good". So even if poo does take it back, it will only make doo strive for more. Remember the REV was on paper in 1997, a prototype in 1999, and not released until 2003 to production. Doo wont rush it, but god only knows what they have brewing. Should make both companies better and urgent to make the best products possible.
 
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I watched the video/s and they are certainly doing an awesome job, lets hope the motors will be as good as the rest of the sled and if so, they are gaining huge momentum
 
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Cool! I'm assuming Kevin is with Snow Tech and wrote the article? I've been doing a lot of research and it's all very good so far. Hopefully they can avoid any major first year issues. Can't wait to see them in 2 weeks at the Sneak Peak in Mpls.
 
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lenny said:
I watched the video/s and they are certainly doing an awesome job, lets hope the motors will be as good as the rest of the sled and if so, they are gaining huge momentum
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Looks and sounds impressive i will admit. From the outside looking in, the 3000 mile cap on engine warranty may deture people, is this true? its what i was reading on dootalk didnt know if it was fact?
 
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momoney,

I agree, it can only make both companies better. You can't go wrong with either, it's all what you like. When I rode my buddies Doo a few weeks ago, the rear suspension was a little better but the front was not as good. It sounds like they both have improved where they needed. I wonder how many years Polaris was #1? It's been a long time since they have and no doubt they are moving in the right direction.

I have not heard that on the warranty but will have to find out.

Lenny,

That's why I'll stay with a 600, but even those can go as I know. But I like my chances much better with the 600 and I'm not quite the speed demon I used to be! :)
 
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I was died in the wool Polaris faithfulol since before snow. Bought my first Rush in2010,(went on the demo ride at Ironwood-it was a better handling sled than my 2009 SB. Then I bought a 2011, then a 2012. On all three I could never get the rear suspension adjusted-to narrow of a sweet spot. The front would either push in the corners or lift the inside ski. They were right-if you crawled upon the hood it would turn somewhat. So, after three years after trying to get the Rush to turn/ride better, I jumped ship(this was a hard decision). Now, five years later, they say they might have some issues with the chassis. All the reports compare the new chassis to the "old" chassis, not to any other mfg's. Let the public test the new chassis for a year at least, hopefully there won't be any problems, then I may go back.
 
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90s said:
All the reports compare the new chassis to the "old" chassis, not to any other mfg's. Let the public test the new chassis for a year at least, hopefully there won't be any problems, then I may go back.
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The report above says it's the best handling sled in the biz, that means all 4 OEM's, not compared to the old chassis.
 
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No mileage cap on 4 year ESC in US. Canada is capped at 3k. I believe there's a cap on the second year engine coverage US plan if you opted out of the 4 year. I'm sure Kip or another dealer will give you exact details.
 
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Mpease...I can tell you are excited about the new polaris sleds...Polaris definately needed to do something..I like that polaris is thinking "out of the box"...and certainly polaris rider's will be happy with the new offerings....still you need to read between the lines with these magazine guy....a few of the comments that caught my eye, are concerning..So I am going to be the devil's advocate, and ask some questions :

"They are set up far more as a cross country sled and are very tippy, or lift the skis quite a bit"

How is that different than the current Rush and switchback models???

"there was no mention of any steps being taken to improve engine durability, so only time will tell as to how the new 800 H.O. compares to the current 800 twin. This issue is of concern to many riders, but we just can’t answer that one for you. Only time will tell."

Ok...so you have a great new chassis with a time bomb for an engine?? I see where they say it's faster...and I know polaris riders wanted that...they got tired of hearing that the cat and doo 800's had more HP...I guess we will see if they are more reliable.

"With the coil spring still on the rear shock it isn’t quite as compliant as a torsion spring arrangement"

What does that statement really mean?? The reviewer gave a glowing review of the ride...then wrote that...is that one of those "it's better..but" things??

I don't mean to POOP in the Polaris punch bowl...and wreck otherwise glowing reviews of this improved sled...but some of these statements are concerning...the avid Polaris riders will read that article and skip over that stuff...and see and repeat only the good stuff...we all do it (insert your favorite brand here)....none of us want to hear negatives about our brands....remember it's spring, and these are prototypes...the magazines really made the el tigres look bad last spring...slow...clutching off (see snow goer)..and they turned out to be rocket ships (for a 600 class sled)..that get excellent fuel economy, and use very little oil...people who bought them are very happy...you wouldn't know that from last springs articles.....I hope these new model's do turn out as a home run for polaris...the sport needs a boost...but let's wait and see what happens when consumer's get their hands on these machines...don't forget the magazines make big money selling advertising to the BIG 4, and their purpose is to drive sales.
 
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momoney2123

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I agree sounds good but the proof is in the pudding....only time will tell if will live up.

I think if that 3k milage cap on warranty is true thats a terrible marketing strategy for poo and it basically is saying they dont have faith after that. I would just say its a one or 2 year warranty and leave it at that. Dont put an astrict that says 3k miles....
 
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I would expect nothing less than poop in the punch bowl from you. You were very selective in your quote above, which is below.

"They are set up far more as a cross country sled and are very tippy, or lift the skis quite a bit"

Now, the actual quote regarding this from the article.

"The Pro-X models sit much taller, have longer shocks and deep lug 1.75” tracks. They are set up far more as a cross country sled and are very tippy, or lift the skis quite a bit, motoring down a groomed trail If you mostly ride groomed trails you will be far better off with the Pro-S models, as they corner far flatter and are much more compliant through the trail bumps, and will work far better on hardpack with their 1.25” Ripsaw II tracks.

That said, our test team found the new Polaris AXYS models are the best handling sleds in the biz. The ability to rail through the corners with such confidence and maintain such light steering effort was truly amazing."

If you look at it in full context, it's plain to see they are talking about the Pro-X model which sits much higher (2.5") than the Pro-S. The Pro-X is designed for a very small % of the market and is aimed at ditch bangers and jumpers. Most people should buy the Pro-S model. Nice job of editing the quote though to fit your narrative! LMAO
 
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momoney2123

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Pro X similiar too doos XRS and pro S similiar to X package. Makes sense as the XRSs sit higher have stiffer shocks in turn are tippy in comparison to X.
 
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mspease said:
I would expect nothing less than poop in the punch bowl from you. You were very selective in your quote above, which is below.

"They are set up far more as a cross country sled and are very tippy, or lift the skis quite a bit"

Now, the actual quote regarding this from the article.

"The Pro-X models sit much taller, have longer shocks and deep lug 1.75” tracks. They are set up far more as a cross country sled and are very tippy, or lift the skis quite a bit, motoring down a groomed trail If you mostly ride groomed trails you will be far better off with the Pro-S models, as they corner far flatter and are much more compliant through the trail bumps, and will work far better on hardpack with their 1.25” Ripsaw II tracks.

That said, our test team found the new Polaris AXYS models are the best handling sleds in the biz. The ability to rail through the corners with such confidence and maintain such light steering effort was truly amazing."

If you look at it in full context, it's plain to see they are talking about the Pro-X model which sits much higher (2.5") than the Pro-S. The Pro-X is designed for a very small % of the market and is aimed at ditch bangers and jumpers. Most people should buy the Pro-S model. Nice job of editing the quote though to fit your narrative! LMAO
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I told you...a few of the statements caught my eye (thus the selective editing)...and you didn't answer the question?? Any the questions actually...neither you nor I have ridden one...so..now the magazine is 100 percent correct??? Do you not recall the spring hype around the Nytro, and the Phazer?? I do...I also remember the HYPE around the 2010 RUSH...and the spring reviews were far more glowing than the next winter's reviews (when consumer's actually got their hands on them)....Right now "the best handling, best riding sleds in the BIZ" are ski-doos...wether I like or not....that is a bold statement by them...saying a prototype is the best in the biz don't ya think??..A little hype there maybe??.. but hey go ahead and polish up your polaris goggles....they are the best in the BIZ...Polaris going to be number #1....because snow tech and you say so...LOL
 
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kip

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No mileage limit on new factory backed Polaris warranty. No doubt it will be tough to knock Doo off of the top as they make a great product but I believe Polaris is primed to do just that. It will take more than one model year but nothing lasts forever. Mark, yes, Kevin owns Snow Tech and did write the article. I was also informed that the new Voyager 550 will dance circles around the Tundra off trail and in the handling department so Polaris means business in more than one department here. People are right, only time will tell but the Snow Tech article is very promising and I know Kevin tells it like it is and that's why he has the best Magazine in the business!!!!!!!:)
 
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Will they be number #1?
They may have a great chassis but engine wise is to be determined. E-Tec engines are pretty strong and with pretty good mpg and proven to be pretty reliable last few years. And with 4 yr spring warranty, hard to beat that.
With that said Polaris will probably gain sales just because people have been on doo so long and want to try something different.
Decisions, decisions. Lol
 
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momoney2123

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kip said:
No mileage limit on new factory backed Polaris warranty. No doubt it will be tough to knock Doo off of the top as they make a great product but I believe Polaris is primed to do just that. It will take more than one model year but nothing lasts forever. Mark, yes, Kevin owns Snow Tech and did write the article. I was also informed that the new Voyager 550 will dance circles around the Tundra off trail and in the handling department so Polaris means business in more than one department here. People are right, only time will tell but the Snow Tech article is very promising and I know Kevin tells it like it is and that's why he has the best Magazine in the business!!!!!!!:)
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Not sure any off trail sled will do circles around the tundra extreme... that thing looks like it will go anywhere.

Should be an interesting 2015 cant wait to see how it all pans out. Is it december yet?
 
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