Yamaha Apex's + -20 degrees = Priceless!!

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lenny

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oh you'll get yours ;), you know dem der 2 smokes blow up twice a season because your octane was 2 points low a grandma's pasty shop and gas station or your carb boot sucked to much air, leaned out and went blewey. I normally don't add fuel to the fire but owning 2 stroke sleds most my life and currently I would still say hands down to reliability for the pigs, even if you loose a day every few years because of excessive cold.
 
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Deleted member 10829

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4 stroke issue

I had the same issue with my FST a few times in extreme cold. I would throw a sleeping bag over the hood and run a small space heater under the hood, and within 30 minutes, it would start. Kind of a hassle though but a guy could put in a block heater and problem solved.
 
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whitedust

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I don't do much riding in -20 but my Apex started no problems at -10-15. Below that too dang cold to ride anyway. Remember pull starting 2 doo 800s 2s in -17 in White Pine UPMI the batteries were dead on both. Man that was gruesome much rather jump start a 4s than do that again. Saw in a boating mag a battery monkey in or something like that for jump starting anything with a dead battery. Was about 6 inches x 4 inches fits in your pocket holds about 20 jump starts before needs to be recharged. Nice saftey net for 4 strokers. I'll try & find it post here for those interested.:)
 
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Deleted member 10829

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In my case, it was never the battery (my first battery lasted a full 5 seasons), just too cold to turn over. 4 strokes are very hard to turn over to begin with, that's why you can't pull start them. When it gets that cold, it's just too much for the battery to turn over. Just warm up the oil and the engine and it started with no jump or charge on the battery.
 
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Never had that problem with any of my Apexes or RX1's. My old non-fuel injected RX 1 even started at 40 below in Baudette one day. I have never been able to find anyone that wants to ride when it gets that cold anyway. If it is below zero my old fat friends like to stay in the shed and play cards and watch football and eat unhealthy foods and drink beer. Nothing the matter with any of this either.
 
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dcsnomo

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Why were you going sledding at -20 degrees? Did all the bars burn down the night before?

At 20 below zero the only 4 stroke I am starting is a Chevy.
 
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mjkaliszak

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I must say indy has a valid point, and.... the guy in the commercial saying " The pigs are down " seems to be having too much enjoyment in making that statement. However... I did get a chuckle out of both.=:)
 
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From what I have seen the biggest problem people have with cold starting Yamis is that they let off on the starter as soon as it fires. While this is the right procedure during warmer temps it is wrong when it is extremely cold. Keep the starter engaged until you are able to rev it up a little and it is actually running on all four. The starter is designed in such a way that it is impossible to damage it by doing this. You only get a few chances when it gets really cold. If it doesn't start right away you will either drain the bat or flood it out even if it is a fuelie.
 
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doomsman

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A simple aid to cold starting is when you know its going
to be nasty in the morning is to twist the clutch open
when its warm at the end of the days riding the day before.
 
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indy_500

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whitedust said:
Indy are you kidding me I haven't pull started a sled in 18 years. Even had ES on a Poo 340Deluxe.:)
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My dad's had sleds from the mid 90's up to his 01 touring with ES, they need a new battery every year and it's just a waste of $ just so you can turn a key...
 
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mjkaliszak

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After a broken collar bone & busted ribs, and several years of yanking a T-Cat especially when below -5 ...... I'll turn the key. Nothing like being exhausted from yanking on a rope only to find the kill switch on ( LOL ) ! Done that a few times.
 
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