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dfattack
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I have a 2006 Apex GT, 2007 Attak Gt, 2009 Venture GT and a 2010 Vector LTX GT. I will say the hand warmer problem has been fixed. The Vector gets real hot. To be honest I don't know if the Hyfax wear has been fixed. I have been installing the "Hyfax Extender wheel Kit" from Pioneer Performance on all of my sleds. So far so good. His name is Bruce. Good guy. If you really want to know a lot about Yamaha's, go to www.totallyamaha.com. Check out the 4 stroke forums. Most, if not all of your questions will be answered.
BTW, I'm selling my 2006 apex and ordered the 2011 Apex XTX. You could say I am brand loyal...
BTW, I'm selling my 2006 apex and ordered the 2011 Apex XTX. You could say I am brand loyal...
eagle1
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I don't think hyfaxes are really a problem. last year was my first year on a Yamaha Nytro xtx and changed the slides at 700miles because they looked almost used up. After reading up seems they wear fast to a point and then last a long time. Ended up with another 500 miles on the new pair to finish the year. Bought spare pair to carry along on trips this year and haven't needed them, about 1200mi this year so 1700 miles total on this set of slides. Worn down from new but really don't seem to have worn down any from the miles I put on this year. So don't take them off until you see holes. lol
Hand warmers, if there not hot enough for you contact "Rockmeister" on TY and he will have you smoking in no time.
Overheating, depends. I think they fixed this on the 2010 vectors not sure of the other models. I know some guy's are adding the mountain cooler under the tunnel for extra protection. I also check your coolant as I heard it comes full strenght from the factory and you need to dilute.
Get on totallyamaha.com and learn all you want and then some.
Enjoy your new sled, don't forget pics when you get one.
Hand warmers, if there not hot enough for you contact "Rockmeister" on TY and he will have you smoking in no time.
Overheating, depends. I think they fixed this on the 2010 vectors not sure of the other models. I know some guy's are adding the mountain cooler under the tunnel for extra protection. I also check your coolant as I heard it comes full strenght from the factory and you need to dilute.
Get on totallyamaha.com and learn all you want and then some.
Enjoy your new sled, don't forget pics when you get one.
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I have 07 Attak never overheated & hyfax wears to a point then stops. I run handwarmers at about 1/2 but I don't get cold hands. I installed new hyfax on all my sleds regardless of brand at end of season just because. For my Attak the end of season milage is about 2,500 miles so hyfax wear is not a concern for me. Yam installed rear heat exchangers in 09 to all Apexs & improved handwarmers each year so 09-2010 were the best of the old style Apex. I would not worry about hyfax wear or handwarmers. Yam installed rear heat exchanger so riders could ride on ice all day without overheating. 07 -2010 Apex LTX GT are all very good sleds not a lot of difference. 06s Apex the shocks were too soft but fixed that in 07. 2011 Apex big changes to Apex & price at MSRP at $15K so 07 -2010 great buys. TY will scare the heck out of you ,I know it did me, but those guys will reengineer the wheel just to say they did it better than Yamaha very technical people with PHDs in reengineering.lol I hope this helps.
I have 07 Attak never overheated & hyfax wears to a point then stops. I run handwarmers at about 1/2 but I don't get cold hands. I installed new hyfax on all my sleds regardless of brand at end of season just because. For my Attak the end of season milage is about 2,500 miles so hyfax wear is not a concern for me. Yam installed rear heat exchangers in 09 to all Apexs & improved handwarmers each year so 09-2010 were the best of the old style Apex. I would not worry about hyfax wear or handwarmers. Yam installed rear heat exchanger so riders could ride on ice all day without overheating. 07 -2010 Apex LTX GT are all very good sleds not a lot of difference. 06s Apex the shocks were too soft but fixed that in 07. 2011 Apex big changes to Apex & price at MSRP at $15K so 07 -2010 great buys. TY will scare the heck out of you ,I know it did me, but those guys will reengineer the wheel just to say they did it better than Yamaha very technical people with PHDs in reengineering.lol I hope this helps.
dfattack
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I agree with this. Helps a lot.
dfattack
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Iron Mountain Powersports has a decent inventory of previous years models. Contact them at 906-779-1720 if you are looking for current or previous years (still brand new) models of Yamaha's, Cats or Polaris.
indy_500
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sorry read the word any problems and i saw in one of the threads something about slides lol i guess i'm just too post-happy!
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fusion
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Apex LTX GT is a pretty impressive sled. Scrap the carbides and put on triple points or some sort of duelly and tweak the rear shock to avoid bottoming, add rear heat exchanger protection and about 162 studs and away you go! Motor is crazy fast and doesn't quit pulling at a hundred. Chassis is so solid, (and heavy) it stays glued to the trail and lake at high speeds, almost like a Cadillac, you put the pedal down and hardly realize you're going that fast. 102 week before last and I backed it down with speed still climbing. Vector stays right with it up till about 85 - 90, the Apex is gone. Handles well enough in the corners and ride is great for stutters and groomed trail. Only complaint, the sled does not respond at all to driver inputs, leans and movement, without major shifting of weight off the sled. It gets to the point, and it's more about the style of riding than anything else, you just don't bother moving around because most of the time you just don't have to. It stays planted unless you hit some real weirdly banked turn. You will like the sled if you like power and ride long, flat trails. Short straight-aways and left/right twisty's you never get to use the power of this motor. One short burst and you're into the next corner. Its fun to know you always have the power no matter who your in front of, or trying to chase.
Fusion, I agree with you except for the Triple points.
I had Stud Boys Deuce Bars on mine.
I decided to try the triple points because of people saying they worked great.
Bad move.
All over the trail and couldn't turn in the corners.
Put on a new set of Duece Bars and enjoying the ride again.
I've been over 100 many times. Just pulls and pulls and doesn't quit.
I had Stud Boys Deuce Bars on mine.
I decided to try the triple points because of people saying they worked great.
Bad move.
All over the trail and couldn't turn in the corners.
Put on a new set of Duece Bars and enjoying the ride again.
I've been over 100 many times. Just pulls and pulls and doesn't quit.
Did you shim the triple points & use ski savers? I'm like Fusion my Apex LTX GT point & shoot with Bergstroms. At 230 geared the sled likes me to get up forward knees resting on panels if racing thru Twistys. I agree not much input to moving all around the sled but I like that when riding big mile days just sit back & let that big Yam 4s 150 haul butt. I also like 4s engine braking & would really miss that & don't understand why OEMs are cutting back on 4s engine braking. I almost feel like I'm cheating 2s riders when I use engine braking in turns then come out hot corner to corner. Also very useful at high speed on grades when coming up to stop signs. All around great sled & my gas milage improved this year to 15mpg.....don't know why but did put on new belt.
dfattack
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I'm with Whitedust. I have Bergstrom triple points and shims on the 2010 Vector LTX GT and they are working perfect. I also agree about the engine braking. I actually like it. Use the brakes much less. I do like the snowtrackers, but they tear up my trailer.
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Snowtrackers?
How did you like the snowtrackers compared to triple points? Snowtrackers seemed like they would do well on snowcovered trails but would bend on pavement or get bent if hit a rock. The triples are robust & self sharpen so I thought would be better for conditions that I ride. Was their more steering effort with snowtrackers?
How did you like the snowtrackers compared to triple points? Snowtrackers seemed like they would do well on snowcovered trails but would bend on pavement or get bent if hit a rock. The triples are robust & self sharpen so I thought would be better for conditions that I ride. Was their more steering effort with snowtrackers?
dfattack
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Whitedust,
Yes, I think there is slightly more steering effort at slower speeds. They don't get bent and they supposedly self sharpen as well. I have snowtrackers on the 2006 Apex GT and the 2007 Attak GT. I ride the attak since this is my favorite sled right now. I will be getting the 2011 Apex XTX next season and selling the 2006 Apex. I'm not sure which carbides I'm going with at this point. I have bought three sets of triple points with shims. One for a 2007 Ski-doo 550F GSX, 2009 Ski-Doo 600 etec and the last set for the 2010 Vector LTX GT. I don't have the ski-doos anymore. I just don't like them. They feel cheap to me. Just my personal opinion. My son's first sled was the 2007 GSX fan cooled. Didn't want a whole lot of power. Yamaha didn't have a lowered powered sled to offer so I went with the fan cooled ski-doo. He was 15 at the time. Lots of darting. Triple points fixed that. after a couple of seasons he really couldn't keep up with us on our grade runs so I bumped him up to the Etec. Same thing, darting. triple points and shims fixed that. It's been three years since I bought the snow trackers and if I remember there were some issues getting them from Canada and customs, but can't remember exactly. Not sure I want to deal with that again. Bergstom is easy to deal with. Bottom line, snow trackers work. Fixed the Yamaha push in the corners. Triple points work too. Can't go wrong with either.
Yes, I think there is slightly more steering effort at slower speeds. They don't get bent and they supposedly self sharpen as well. I have snowtrackers on the 2006 Apex GT and the 2007 Attak GT. I ride the attak since this is my favorite sled right now. I will be getting the 2011 Apex XTX next season and selling the 2006 Apex. I'm not sure which carbides I'm going with at this point. I have bought three sets of triple points with shims. One for a 2007 Ski-doo 550F GSX, 2009 Ski-Doo 600 etec and the last set for the 2010 Vector LTX GT. I don't have the ski-doos anymore. I just don't like them. They feel cheap to me. Just my personal opinion. My son's first sled was the 2007 GSX fan cooled. Didn't want a whole lot of power. Yamaha didn't have a lowered powered sled to offer so I went with the fan cooled ski-doo. He was 15 at the time. Lots of darting. Triple points fixed that. after a couple of seasons he really couldn't keep up with us on our grade runs so I bumped him up to the Etec. Same thing, darting. triple points and shims fixed that. It's been three years since I bought the snow trackers and if I remember there were some issues getting them from Canada and customs, but can't remember exactly. Not sure I want to deal with that again. Bergstom is easy to deal with. Bottom line, snow trackers work. Fixed the Yamaha push in the corners. Triple points work too. Can't go wrong with either.
dfattack:Thanks for the info. I worked for a Canadian company for 14 years so I thought there would be a customs problem with shipping. Bergstrom is easy to deal with & has a good robust carbide. Snowtrackers carbides are the most agressive carbide design I have seen so wondered how they worked. Let us know how 2011 Apex XTX 144 track works out? Everything I read states cheap OEM carbides worked well with EPS so don't know if agressive carbides will be better? Is the over all dimensions of Apex XTX longer than Apex SE? How long? I have about 3-4 more inches on my trailer with 2007 Attack GT & was wondering about APEX XTX too.
dfattack
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According to Yamaha's website, it 6.5" longer overall. I'm a little apprehensive with the 144" track. It's the same length as my 2009 Venture GT! I realize the track is "tipped up" but I have never ridden one with this setup. I have a good relationship with my dealer so I could change it if I wanted to later. He had a deadline to place an order for what he wanted on the floor next season and wanted to at least get a sled on order for me so I told him the XTX. My opinion is the 121" track is not enough rubber meeting the trail so to speak. So I wasn't thinking the 128" was going to be that much difference. I don't do picks. I have epoxied showroom type garage floors and don't want to mess them up or my driveway for that matter. I will be ordering the Ohlins front shocks to replace OEM shocks right away.
Of course, the 2011 XTX is not my sled of choice. A Black XTX GT with Ohlins EC Monoshock is the ticket. That's what I will replace the 2007 attak with which I'm sure will come out for 2012 model year.
Is this what they call hijacking a thread??? Sorry if that's the case.
Of course, the 2011 XTX is not my sled of choice. A Black XTX GT with Ohlins EC Monoshock is the ticket. That's what I will replace the 2007 attak with which I'm sure will come out for 2012 model year.
Is this what they call hijacking a thread??? Sorry if that's the case.