You Talkin' Playoffs?!PLAYOFFS?!

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xcr440

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timo said:
The officiating will be better if replay is gone, because they won't have this crutch to rely on.
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I don't know about that - there are many MANY plays during the course of the game they are conferring on, and you KNOW someone from above is trying to take a quick look at it and let them know what the call should be.

I'd be willing to bet they get 98%+ of the calls correct - you'll never get it to 100%, not a chance.
 
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old abe

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timo said:
I say scrap the whole dang thing. All of it.
If you replay zealots can't without it, then I maybe can be convinced where each team gets two opportunities to review a play. Two and only two. Whatever they want to review, catch, fumble, ball spots,, etc...

My whole thing with replay isn't that it hardly ever works how it was intended. It has taken all the excitement out of big plays. And now any type of big play is followed by 5 minutes of,,, did he ,, didn't he,,,, blah blah,,, just kills the game flow.

Not to mention the refs just use it as a crutch now and basically aren't officiating the game.

One more add no more reviewing pass interference. too objective, plus they never changed a call all season anyway. scrap it.
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If you scrap the reviews, then what's to stop blatant "fixing"? And having nothing to do about it?
 
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50 more cameras with 50 separate guys in NYC watching a camera a piece. Only one zebra on the field to spot the ball. They could hire 50 storm troopers to break up fights among the players should they occur. They could be selling beer until they were needed. The booth announcers could just tell the audience the calls. They do now anyway. They would just have to tell the people in stadium too.
The game is so much faster now than it used to be. If you are a ref on the field you are probably not going to be in position to see things happening as fast as they are. On TV things are obvious to us but our angles are usually better than the zebras on the field. That
is one of the things that make this so frustrating.
I don't know. I do know I don't like 3 and 1/2 hour games that have 50 more stupid commercials than they should have and they STILL get stuff blatantly wrong.
The games probably are not rigged. The refs are simply not competant enough to handle that. And the players could never keep their mouths shut. Most of them are wonderful physical specimens but they traded brains for that. It takes 1/2 season to train them not to jump offsides. But some of the obvious no-calls and phantom calls could be interpreted as biased.
 
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1fujifilm

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grub said:
50 more cameras with 50 separate guys in NYC watching a camera a piece. Only one zebra on the field to spot the ball. They could hire 50 storm troopers to break up fights among the players should they occur. They could be selling beer until they were needed. The booth announcers could just tell the audience the calls. They do now anyway. They would just have to tell the people in stadium too.
The game is so much faster now than it used to be. If you are a ref on the field you are probably not going to be in position to see things happening as fast as they are. On TV things are obvious to us but our angles are usually better than the zebras on the field. That
is one of the things that make this so frustrating.
I don't know. I do know I don't like 3 and 1/2 hour games that have 50 more stupid commercials than they should have and they STILL get stuff blatantly wrong.
The games probably are not rigged. The refs are simply not competent enough to handle that. And the players could never keep their mouths shut. Most of them are wonderful physical specimens but they traded brains for that. It takes 1/2 season to train them not to jump offsides. But some of the obvious no-calls and phantom calls could be interpreted as biased.
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I don't like sitting at games and seeing people stand around on the field waiting for commercial breaks either, almost makes you want to watch it at home; at least you can flip the channel for 2 minutes at a time.

Bear
 
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timo

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i really don't feel replay has a thing to do with fixing,,, I know it may happen once in a blue moon but this isn't 1970 anymore.

These guys make so much money now, there's no incentive to fix games.


old abe said:
If you scrap the reviews, then what's to stop blatant "fixing"? And having nothing to do about it?
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timo

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Right exactly.
Your last sentence is my whole point. Its not a perfect world and we need to stop trying to make it.

xcr440 said:
I don't know about that - there are many MANY plays during the course of the game they are conferring on, and you KNOW someone from above is trying to take a quick look at it and let them know what the call should be.

I'd be willing to bet they get 98%+ of the calls correct - you'll never get it to 100%, not a chance.
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1fujifilm

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timo said:
These guys make so much money now, there's no incentive to fix games.
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I might respectfully disagree with this.
A rookie making $750,000 (or less) is really only making a few hundred thousand once he buys moms a house, pays taxes and buys a fancy car plus their own home and expensive lifestyle.
Getting involved with the wrong guys or powerful addictions (or worse, a combo plus an injury) can create havoc on their lifestyle and potentially lead to desperation.

As an example, yesterdays Packer game was literally a few plays from covering or not covering; it is hard to link player performance one way or the other and for what reason.

Bear
 
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1fujifilm

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1fujifilm said:
I might respectfully disagree with this.
A rookie making $750,000 (or less) is really only making a few hundred thousand once he buys moms a house, pays taxes and buys a fancy car plus their own home and expensive lifestyle.
Getting involved with the wrong guys or powerful addictions (or worse, a combo plus an injury) can create havoc on their lifestyle and potentially lead to desperation.

As an example, yesterdays Packer game was literally a few plays from covering or not covering; it is hard to link player performance one way or the other and for what reason.

Bear
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Good example with Baseball from yesterdays news;
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28482487/the-five-biggest-victims-astros-sign-stealing-scandal

I would add victim #6 as being anybody that placed a wager on an Astros game while the cheating was taking place.
They were exposed to a perspective of the game that was an unknown illegal variable.

Someone involved shared that info outside the game (brother, sister, parent friend) and relayed it to in-game wagering, GUARANTEED!

Bear
 
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just_ride

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thats why the Chiefs suck ! they forget they throw the ball.... they don't run the ball! just not very good coaching....
 
srt20

srt20

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1fujifilm said:
I might respectfully disagree with this.
A rookie making $750,000 (or less) is really only making a few hundred thousand once he buys moms a house, pays taxes and buys a fancy car plus their own home and expensive lifestyle.
Getting involved with the wrong guys or powerful addictions (or worse, a combo plus an injury) can create havoc on their lifestyle and potentially lead to desperation.

As an example, yesterdays Packer game was literally a few plays from covering or not covering; it is hard to link player performance one way or the other and for what reason.

Bear
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A rookie who is only making $750k isn't playing enough to throw a game.
 
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1fujifilm

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srt20 said:
A rookie who is only making $750k isn't playing enough to throw a game.
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One or two missed 1st downs is all it takes to miss a game spread not to mention there is "in-game" wagering where there are 100's of chances to wager on micro-events.
Remember, the other players are like family and can work together to achieve results.

Bear
 
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timo

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hats off to niners they embarrassed us.
They've been bad for a long time and have nailed all their high first round picks. made a couple of key acquisitions, tanked last year got Bosa and they're set for the long haul now.

Was a good Packer season they went further than I ever thought. Plus sweeping the Bears (again) is always a successful season.
 
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