Polaris moving some work to Mexico....

eagle1

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Well said Anonomoose!!!
I'll also add companies need to step up and support the american worker. Just because you can make 10x in another country doesent meen you have to. Now 500 more workers in Wi that can't afford Polaris products
 

cool700

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Now there is a website that can be used. We should all use it and get some satisfaction from. Except maybe mspease. I see they support the union on this site.
 

luke_duke

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What happens if the cartels take the whole country over and the everyone is living their lives in fear daily? Would industry come back? Maybe we need to pull for the thugs in Mexico to completely take over. Here's and idea America, lets reward the Mexicans for flooding our country with Illegal Aliens by sending some more jobs there way. How about we ask the Chinese, the fine folks from India, and the people from Africa, Japan, and Korea to come into our country too while we are at it. Maybe we could educate them in our great universities at a discount too and increase tuition to our own people to pay for it. Oh wait....we already do that(more fleecing of the middle class). I hope I am dead and gone when the Chinese come to collect, because when we are of no use to them, they WILL come to collect and we don't have enough bullets to go around. Ask any veteran from WWII and the Korean War what their thoughts on the Asian folk are. I was taught in history class in college that the Japanese were quoted at some point after WWII that they would take over our country without firing a single bullet...they are close, but we all know that won't happen because the Chinese will beat them too it. While we are at it, lets educate most of the world with our top agricultural technology so everyone can be more self-reliant and grow things that inevitably lower our prices here in the states and totally render us useless. What can I do about it, not much, but possibly vote.

Im finished with my beer now, please pass me the Kool-Aid.
 
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snobuilder

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I have had mixed feelings about Menards as a company over the years,....but one thing i do admire about them is there "Made in America" sales flyer they come out with several times a year,....
I think it is a step in the right direction.

I have thought for years about the mindset of large corporations and what I guess should be called greed.

In my opinion,....taking some of the huge bonus money that seems to exist and is handed out to a select few at the very top, could be put to work more economicly efficiently by spreading that same wealth of money around to top employees all the way own to the sweeper.

That corporately "redistrbuted" money would act as real stimulus and boost consumer confidence at the same time.

Strong economys need to have the money constantly flowing to consumers or else why build the stuff in the first place,....a great example is in subject line of this thread.....the fact that poo will be laying off 430 consumers in wisconsin will only shrink there US /snowbelt customer base by that same amount.

Creating weak consumers by dragging the US wages down to 3rd world levels is why we have so many voters turning to who ever promises the biggest handouts, but what should the other side expect to happen?....top heavy wealth is NOT good for any economy, and ppl DO want to EARN a living vs. getting a handout.......i hope its not too late to save us from ourselves.
 
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Deleted member 10829

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Look in the mirror

Our biggest problem today is our work ethic, or lack of it, and expecting something for nothing. If the unions worked as hard at being "productive" as they do getting high wages, benefits and retirement benifits that most people would kill for, we could compete. For those of us over 40, think back to when we were young and how hard we worked. Now take a look at today's kids and the difference is amazing!!
 

arcticgeorge

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heres a t shirt that says it pretty well.... it wouldnt let me post the link but it shows the US and says "#$%^ off were Full "
 
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Hmmm

Didn't Arctic cat just stop purchasing Suzuki engines and start building there own engines in Minnesota? Problem solved!!! ;) Everyone head to your nearest cat dealer!!!
 

whitedust

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Ok here are the facts. Polaris is a motorcycle, ATV company sleds very small PIA biz for them same as Yamaha. Scott Wine CEO maxing profits in those markets & he answers to the board so write Scott a letter tell HIM What & How you think. Scott probably won't care but if you want to complain Scott is the guy. Polaris is not a leader in snowmobiles & has been reacting to everything Doo brings to market in snomo biz for past 15 years. Lite weight Poos idea no way doo has been beating the weight issue for years & the public has been liking it. Poo 4s leader no way that is Yamaha all the way. AC is not concerned about weight either but does have some good 2s & 4s sleds but needs to change over to injected 2s engines ASAP so teething pains for sure. IMO we should be happy that all 4 OEMs still manu sleds as all but Doo & AC have to have considered pulling out. Who knows we could be left with only 2 choices if we stop buying sleds. So be happy the OEMS are doing all they can to continue in the snomo biz. Meantime you all can continue the debate while I'm out riding my Yamaha Attak (the best sled made) on outstanding USA trails before the rain & thaw comes.:D
 
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Deleted member 10829

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Whitedust,

While I agree with most of what you said, to say Polaris has been copying Doo for the past 15 years is hilarious. Who dominated sled sales prior to Ski Doo taking over the #1 spot? For many years, what type of front suspension did Doo have and who brought it to market?

Your comment is way off base and would have made a little sense if you had said the last 5 years, but 15? Come on. Must have been a typo!
 

whitedust

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Going riding now but trend started in mid 90s Poo got caught up in this & that chassis could not make up their minds wedge still worked best for them & very old tech. Sure AC brought A arms to sleds first & you could say AC brought lite weight 1st too. As you say last 5 years very obvious Poo fell behind & doo the sales champ has something for everyone. So we both agree just not on timing. For me I saw Poo misdirection in the mid 90s with AC & Doo introducing some great tech Poo not so much & Yamaha not taking charge untill 2003 with with 4s RX1 then 2006 with Apex. Still not sure Poo on right track as pro-ride just not selling not sure this is what the faithful want no matter where it is made. I digress buy whatever you want all good regardless where made.
Oh well on the trails for now.
whitedust
 

indy_500

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I thought there was rules to follow? That looks like a bash to me!! How old are you anyway?

Thats what I thought.....LOL

I don't think that's bashing. I'm saying Doo's sleds got good around 05 and Poo's sled's went downhill. Doo's sleds prior to 05ish were decent, but not the same Doo as we see today.
 

arcticgeorge

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Ok here are the facts. Polaris is a motorcycle, ATV company sleds very small PIA biz for them same as Yamaha. Scott Wine CEO maxing profits in those markets & he answers to the board so write Scott a letter tell HIM What & How you think. Scott probably won't care but if you want to complain Scott is the guy. Polaris is not a leader in snowmobiles & has been reacting to everything Doo brings to market in snomo biz for past 15 years. Lite weight Poos idea no way doo has been beating the weight issue for years & the public has been liking it. Poo 4s leader no way that is Yamaha all the way. AC is not concerned about weight either but does have some good 2s & 4s sleds but needs to change over to injected 2s engines ASAP so teething pains for sure. IMO we should be happy that all 4 OEMs still manu sleds as all but Doo & AC have to have considered pulling out. Who knows we could be left with only 2 choices if we stop buying sleds. So be happy the OEMS are doing all they can to continue in the snomo biz. Meantime you all can continue the debate while I'm out riding my Yamaha Attak (the best sled made) on outstanding USA trails before the rain & thaw comes.:D
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.......Polaris has only been making motorcycles for a few years..Victory motorcycles.....Polaris is known and has been known for snowmobiles.(They basically introduced/invented first modern snowmobile) ......Polaris is not the leader now but they were...they sold the most sleds each year for over 10 years straight. Ski doo sells the most units now. And Arctic Cat dosent care about weight? The first firecat shaved like 90 pounds off the sled and spanked everything in most classes (except for a couple)the first American Snowmobiler Magazine Snowmobile Shootout it entered in New York.
 
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indy_500

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Polaris has been making Victory Motorcycles since 97, that's 14 years, sounds like more than a few to me. This book is very educative :) Polaris made the first snowmobile, but everybody thinks it'd Doo because they made the first "modern" snowmobile with the motor in the front and therefore have a patent for the "first one" versus polaris' rear motor.
 

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acatzl550

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Ok here are the facts. Polaris is a motorcycle, ATV company sleds very small PIA biz for them same as Yamaha. Scott Wine CEO maxing profits in those markets & he answers to the board so write Scott a letter tell HIM What & How you think. Scott probably won't care but if you want to complain Scott is the guy. Polaris is not a leader in snowmobiles & has been reacting to everything Doo brings to market in snomo biz for past 15 years. Lite weight Poos idea no way doo has been beating the weight issue for years & the public has been liking it. Poo 4s leader no way that is Yamaha all the way. AC is not concerned about weight either but does have some good 2s & 4s sleds but needs to change over to injected 2s engines ASAP so teething pains for sure. IMO we should be happy that all 4 OEMs still manu sleds as all but Doo & AC have to have considered pulling out. Who knows we could be left with only 2 choices if we stop buying sleds. So be happy the OEMS are doing all they can to continue in the snomo biz. Meantime you all can continue the debate while I'm out riding my Yamaha Attak (the best sled made) on outstanding USA trails before the rain & thaw comes.:D

all AC 2 stroke engines are fuel injected except the 570 fan, but they are just the basic efi system they are definately far from direct injection like doo
 

prowrench

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C'mon guys, they're all junk as soon as you pull the cord (or push the button). Very funny how so many things on here turn this way.
The problem lies in the work ethic that has evolved in american society (like somebody else already said). Something for nothing. The obama dream. Devaluation of our currency, the decline in our standard of living. Millions with their hands out. This is what they want.
It's all very sad. And, unfortunately, the kind of thing that can probably only be fixed with blood.

And my dad can beat up your dad.:)
 
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