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whitedust

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momoney2123 said:
Not sure id compare 15 year old 800 twins(which were in their infancy) to todays. Not even in the same ball game as far as power, efficiency and most importantly reliability. todays big twins are really impressive. not gona lie from all 3. tooo bad Yamaha stays out, as they clearly are what the market demands.
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Unless the 850 can go 15K miles without typical 2s rebuilds I'm not interested. Just not the right engine for me a big mile gas and go rider. I just don't want to mess with 2s maintenance 4s any brand is best for me.
 
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momoney2123

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whitedust said:
Unless the 850 can go 15K miles without typical 2s rebuilds I'm not interested. Just not the right engine for me a big mile gas and go rider. I just don't want to mess with 2s maintenance 4s any brand is best for me.
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Doubtful that's a lot of miles for any engine. But lots of maintance will have to be done on any sled by 15k. Id almost bet I can change pistons on a 2 stroke faster than you oil change on an APEX, LOL!!!

Now Doo's new 600 being released Wednesday based off the 850, that has a chance
 
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whitedust

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momoney2123 said:
Doubtful that's a lot of miles for any engine. But lots of maintance will have to be done on any sled by 15k. Id almost bet I can change pistons on a 2 stroke faster than you oil change on an APEX, LOL!!!

Now Doo's new 600 being released Wednesday based off the 850, that has a chance
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The Yamaha tanks at 10K miles don't need much care and feeding a drive bearing and/or skid bearing is about it and just rebuilt shocks and good to go for many more miles the engine has not been touched and typical of Apex. I have zero interest in changing 2s pistons. Im not sure Doo 4s would be as good as the Apex has been for me and many others and why we stick with them as great trail sleds.
 
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whitedust

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momoney2123 said:
I understand why you guys do it, some guys like Lincoln town cars, some like Ferrari's! LOL! Just messin with ya
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I'm watching the 850 ...see how it does but it will take time to to get big miles on them. Prolly over hyped by public doo marketing has been conservative in 850 expectations. Right now real world milage has to meet hyped expectations. We will know in 2-3 years how robust the 850 really is. I'm watching and hoping the 850 can be a tuff big dog engine that can rival 4s for milage.
 
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kip

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momoney, we've rebuilt some of the Doo's, pretty please rebuild one for me quicker than a oil change:) Tracker just wants a rise out of Yamaha faithful, no need to fulfill that for him:) You're right again Tracker:)
 
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maddogg

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Really dumb question - how come the dealers in MN are selling sleds so cheap. Some are more then 25% off MSRP. Not mentioning names or models due to board rules, but why there? Seems like more snow then SE WI....closer to mfg?
 
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old abe

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whitedust said:
I'm watching the 850 ...see how it does but it will take time to to get big miles on them. Prolly over hyped by public doo marketing has been conservative in 850 expectations. Right now real world milage has to meet hyped expectations. We will know in 2-3 years how robust the 850 really is. I'm watching and hoping the 850 can be a tuff big dog engine that can rival 4s for milage.
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I don't think there is any comparing the 850's, or 800's to the Apex/Attak type sleds. The 800/850 riders are not interested in the heavy, hard to throw around Apex/Attak chassis that needs power steering to be able to ride a full day, and have any arms left. The guys who like the Apex/Attak type sled are different as well. Totally different riders. There is no doubt the 800 class 2 stroke is the big dog when it comes to the sales numbers, and $$$$$$$, no matter the "brand". I will bet if Yami gets the new 800 Ctec-2 in a Yami/Cat sled, they will sell very well. You just can't compare apples and oranges.
 
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snobuilder

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Call me a Yamaha guy, but if you are honest about the sleds you see in the UP. You have to admit that the pure Yamahas are in a huge percentage of sleds actually being ridden, and ridden, and ridden. Soo many Apexs seen today, it was unreal compared to some folks opinion that Yamaha sales are so far in the rear view....LOL. .

Sledders love them!...PS Apex is the UP sled of the century
 
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UP RIDER

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snobuilder said:
Call me a Yamaha guy, but if you are honest about the sleds you see in the UP. You have to admit that the pure Yamahas are in a huge percentage of sleds actually being ridden, and ridden, and ridden. Soo many Apexs seen today, it was unreal compared to some folks opinion that Yamaha sales are so far in the rear view....LOL. .

Sledders love them!...PS Apex is the UP sled of the century
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Its only the Terrorists riding them, the Locals wouldn't be caught dead riding One lol!
 
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whitedust

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old abe said:
I don't think there is any comparing the 850's, or 800's to the Apex/Attak type sleds. The 800/850 riders are not interested in the heavy, hard to throw around Apex/Attak chassis that needs power steering to be able to ride a full day, and have any arms left. The guys who like the Apex/Attak type sled are different as well. Totally different riders. There is no doubt the 800 class 2 stroke is the big dog when it comes to the sales numbers, and $$$$$$$, no matter the "brand". I will bet if Yami gets the new 800 Ctec-2 in a Yami/Cat sled, they will sell very well. You just can't compare apples and oranges.
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If you are thinking that Yamaha will put a AC 800 2s engine in a Yamaha sled think again....never ever happen. Not sure you have thrown a leg over an EPS sled if you think they don't handle well. We seek out tight twistys to enjoy point & shoot handling and feel fresh after 250 mile days.
 
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Attak man

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whitedust said:
If you are thinking that Yamaha will put a AC 800 2s engine in a Yamaha sled think again....never ever happen. Not sure you have thrown a leg over an EPS sled if you think they don't handle well. We seek out tight twistys to enjoy point & shoot handling and feel fresh after 250 mile days.
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x2......huge difference between a 2006 to 2010 apex and the 2011 to current apex...YES...the EPS makes that much of a difference...they don't feel heavy at all....it's a slick feature...that IMO every 4 stroke trail sled should have....4 strokes are always going to heavier...that's a fact...but if you ride mostly groomed trails, and aren't ditch banging, jumping driveways or busting powder...you can enjoy the benefits of a BIG 4 stroke with EPS...the apex is an excellent high mile/trail veteran sled.
 
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