someone at poo needs to come clean, trucking issue...find that hard to believe, sad but in the end the dealer will start to look bad because of corporate, in the end they have the say to what and when the dealer gets his order, and any reputable dealer would be going to bat for his customer, if there is a mechanical issue... good luck getting them to admit it this early in a new release, known or unknown. This is extremely unfortunate for the customer and will be curious to know what or who the end blame is. And if houston has a problem...someone needs to step up to the podium.
still waiting on Polaris snowcheck
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pwolfy2003
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Cant believe you Polaris guys keep putting up with their BS ,if its not one thing its another,switched to Yamaha 5 years ago and have not had 1 single breakdown, Cant wait to get out on my New Sidewinder. The only thing that scares me is 1 of the guys I ride with most often bought an 850.
While I am certainly not representative of all of shipping I did just ship a new F-150 from Green Bay to New Jersey, here's how it went.
Emailed U Ship at 9:30AM last Tuesday, had six bids in about 20 minutes via email (2 wanted to pick up truck the same day) picked the cheapest one for $645 and the semi was at my home at 5:15PM and gone in 35 minutes.
Delivered to N.J. on Thursday.
Bear
snobuilder
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Lets just see this play out and not have it become a brand vs. brand pissing contest.
The pto end bearing is new to the 850 Patriot vs the 600 and 800 Libertys. The design that Poolaris used is not unique but the issue is that this design in other engines has either a locator pin or cir-clip to keep the roller bearing in place vs the side forces present.
Poolaris seems to have relied solely on interference fit or locktite between the bottom end casting case bore and the outer race of the roller bearing to keep it in place. In some failed engines the bearing has shifted side to side and either cause the oil line to get shut and blown off or the bearing race migrates over and welds itself to the crankshaft.
I don't think this is funny even if it was happening to a doo.
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Engine designers are cramming things in where they may not make sense to long-term. When I had my Doo 850 last year you can see the plastic injector oil line within inches of the primary clutch whirring at 8,000 RPM's, when I saw that I thought WOW.
Bear
indy_500
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Owner of indy specialty he hand builds polaris motors and offers a 3 year no questions asked warranty. Not impressed with his showing of emotion in the thread but the dude still knows a thing or 2.
He likes his captain morgan... My only experience with him was my 800 long rod motor that made it 9 miles and split the crank in two pieces... So you are seeing these 850s breaking down in real life? I kept telling myself these were mostly trolls trying to stir the pot.
Forum member, The Breeze, on here, just had his new 850 RMK go down this past week while out in the snowies. Indy 500 was out there with him. I will see if I can pull his pictures off of snowest and put them on here. The internet is a great tool, and sometimes it's not lol. But, when it comes to problems, us sleadheads will know about it pretty quick. My buddy had the 05 900 rmk POS, if it wasn't for snowest I would have never been able to keep up on the issues that thing had. Electrical issues, having to put in the 06 pistons and rings, etc etc. LOL. I was so happy when he bought his 12 RMK!!
I have no data on the Poo 850.
But, the Western riders that actually have snow are beating the **** out of non broken-in first year sleds; a recipe for disaster. Think about it, winding the RPM's in the 8k's just to keep moving while riding up elevations we will not see on the flat land.
Even the first year Doo 850's were reporting back bad news from the West. I owned 3 Doo 850's and never had an issue riding the UP.
Bear
How do you know they are not breaking them in? I also know of another person in the Appleton area with an RMK 850, it is at the dealer right now, waiting to hear what happened to it, it locked up on him, less than 10 miles on it. I didn't think I was going to have any issues with my 12 RMK 800, cause ya know, Poo had fixed the issues on their 800 by then, but, low and behold, 2900 miles and she lost a cylinder. Im not saying all 850's will have issues, but people talking about their issues is one way for everyone to be aware. When I bought my 05 Doo 600 sdi early release renegade, I already knew, because of info on the web, that the rings would go bad, maybe. So, I did a compression test as soon as I got it home, and every 300 miles after that. Every compression check I did, it was down. I replaced the pistons and rings after the first season, just so I wouldn't have any down time, cause, ya know, doo said there wasn't an issue. LOL.
POOPOO kept changing my dates too , went to my dealer Friday and got my money back and went and bought a new SKI DOO.
snobuilder
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Poolaris won't know how serious this is until more snow falls in the flatlands.....could be the glue will hold it in place on most of these motors...?
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snobuilder
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I doubt the dealership has a thing to do with it unless there was a certain number built one way and then a redesign was introed and Kens got a series of the bad ones?....but no one is saying there was any sort of change made to the 850 bottom end.
Polaris has at least one tech bulletin out already.
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Were they early delivery or did they just get them? Wondering if the reason for the delay is actually fixing the bearing issue. I got 200 on mine. Maybe I'm ok? I guess I will know in a couple weeks...