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I only found one review of the turbo 130...and it was in supertrax, on a grand touring...and they were praising the itc as finally being calibrated, so you didn't have the dreaded "throttle lag"...their mpg numbers match what I was saying as well...just a titch off the 900, and better than the 1200

I know guys that have done it with four stroke turbos, and didn't notice any difference at all...so you bring up a good point...I think it's worse to run 87 in an etec, you are more likely to have an issue. The old 900s all ran 87, as did my 1200,...the only difference I know of was a bump in...

I said "I"...meaning "me"...didn't say throw it out because I don't use it...lol...my opinion.....sheesh...lol... anything you say doesn't change my mind about how I feel about GPS, and Bluetooth on a snowmobile...I ride to get away from that crap....my phone goes off (and gets put inside my...

I honestly don't need the fancy gauges either...just give me the basic gauge...(I would NEVER use GPS while riding, nor do I care about bluetooth for music etc...guess I'm just an old fart...lol.)..I just wanna ride, and not care about where I'm going nor when I'll get there. I also dislike...

Well that sucks...so far we've not had any issues with the smart ride units that have gone out of here the last two years.

True...but smart ride is worth it, and the new cooling system will be interesting....shot start, and launch control are added bonus

and thats why I'd buy the Turbo 130 (4 stroke)...just a bit more than a 600, but less than the turbo Rs...more 700 class performance (which was my choice of engine back in the day)

100 percent agree that smart ride should be on the grand touring and enduro 4 models....I can't stand that air ride.. (lots of issues with those).....and DPS needs to happen on those models

ski doo doesn't need a 650....the 600 etec is the BEST 600 class two stroke ever built (argue with me...lol)

I am being told 20 to 21 mpg.....which is 3 to 4 mpg better than my 1200....also a more quiet motor, that is smoother, and they really seem to have the ITC dialed in better. Oops missed this part Abe....ALL turbo models run 91 (including the 130 turbo)...unfortunately, that is the one thing my...

You have to watch the video...Green means all clear (Nobody behind you, or u are last in group)...yellow means riders coming, and flashing yellow is to signify a trail hazard ahead

Btw...is been snowing on and off since noon...just over two inches here, and a little over 3 inches at my moms near flambeau

Your thought? I'll start Pleasantly surprised by the Gen5 4 strokes...didnt expect that this year. Knew the 850 turbo was coming, and is more trick than I expected. Some cool new gadgets...shot start on the two stroke trail models, and led hand guard signal lights..very cool Disappointed that...

I'll believe it when I see it...but yeah wouldn't that be great!!

I think 3 to 6 would make them rideable again....and 6 plus or more would extend our season another two weeks at least...provided we have no multiple 40 degree days with rain

Like I said...people can do what they want...trails are open...(even though we advised people not to ride)...its extremely hard and icy out there...some of the corners are flat out danerous...the lakes have ZERO lube...but im done arguing with people...just come buy your slides and carbines from...

and another from Hodag trails .....(this is what it looks like around here)

Hodag trails posted these pics on facebook today (I'm at work so I can't get shots of our trails...but this is how they look, and yes...people are still out riding)

another shot, where the trail comes up

This is the bay behind work...glare ice...no lube