2015 speculation??

[Hoosier]

Yes, the 600 Sport & Indy 600 are great sleds, and if the 900 ACE hadn't come out, I probably would be riding the Indy.

A friend of mine has a new 600 Sport and after riding it and my ACE, I sure do like the torque, smoothness, and lack of 2-stroke smell of the ACE.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a replacement for the 600 Sport being a lower cost 900 ACE model, if that would be possible?

Only a month or so away and we'll see what WILL come for '15.

It would be interesting to compare the cost of buying and riding an Indy 600 compared to the 900 ACE. I assume the 900 is a premium upfront, but would cost a lot less to ride and then would be worth more 5 years old than the Indy. Not sure which would come out cheaper.

I'd be surprised if Yamaha doesn't put something out to compete with the ACE in the next year or two, unless they are just piggy-packing off Cat going forward.

 

[xcsp]

It would be interesting to compare the cost of buying and riding an Indy 600 compared to the 900 ACE. I assume the 900 is a premium upfront, but would cost a lot less to ride and then would be worth more 5 years old than the Indy. Not sure which would come out cheaper.

I'd be surprised if Yamaha doesn't put something out to compete with the ACE in the next year or two, unless they are just piggy-packing off Cat going forward.

Cost over time would be interesting to know, but I won't/don't miss cleaning power valves, buying and adding injection oil, really like the fit & finish & wind protection of the Rev XS chassis.

Would be good to see Yamaha-Cat-Polaris come with something to compete with the ACE, time will tell.

 

[Deleted member 10829]

The biggest difference in the Indy 600 and the 900 ACE is 35hp! That's a huge difference going corner to corner and is a huge difference in the fun factor. I'm not ready for only 90 hp yet, but it does work for many.

 

[Hoosier]

I haven't ridden one but snow tech said it is like a 600 because of its wide power band. I hate to be a magazine quoter but their review is why I am curious about the 900. Of course they need to sell ads but if that is true it would be a sweet sled

 

[Deleted member 10829]

I'd love to see them lined up and run the 1/4 mile. I know where my money would be.

 

[xcsp]

The biggest difference in the Indy 600 and the 900 ACE is 35hp! That's a huge difference going corner to corner and is a huge difference in the fun factor. I'm not ready for only 90 hp yet, but it does work for many.

Corner to corner through the woods I bet you'd be surprised by the 900, in a 1/4 mile drag, the Indy would be ahead naturally with the hp advantage.

The Naysayers (seems to be alot of them) of the "Only 90hp" sleds should really try one.

I had 2-600 Shifts prior to the 900 Ace and I can honestly say the only place I see the Ace lacking is on top end speed say running on a lake or river.

The ergos, ride & handling, as well as the engine in the ACE seal the deal for me!

 

[Hoosier]

I'd love to see them lined up and run the 1/4 mile. I know where my money would be.

I don't disagree with that.

 

[Deleted member 10829]

I need to try a 900 ACE cuz you sure do hear nothing but good things. It sounds like there is a good market for them. I won't need all this HP forever any way, not that I'm a racer, because I'm not.

 

[Attak man]

People need to remember 80-90 HP in a four stroke...is similar to a 500 cc liquid two stroke...and the 600 ace is really closer to a 550 or 570 fanner. The price may not be entry level...but the HP level certainly is...and let's be honest...even though they are expensive....they have some really nice features..for example...compare the ace 900 to the indy 600....the doo cost way more...but it gets all the deluxe gauges...good shocks (depending on package)...high windshield...hand warmers...electric start...and reverse....YOU have to consider that when comparing these very different sleds.....and the 4 stroke will be far easier to maintain..no power valves to clean...no expensive two cycle oil to buy...and really...no worry about grenading the engine......it will also hold it's retail value longer (and higher)....which means you will keep it longer..just look at the yami 4 stroke riders...they keep their sleds alot longer....most average 5 seasons on the same sled...they aren't trying to dump their sleds at 5,000 miles.

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IMO...smaller four strokes are great for entry level and touring riders...if only the prices would come down a bit.

 

[ezra]

are u sure about that re sail? I see 5 yr old 4st going for same money as 2st all the time .
u may not need to add oil but come on u can ride along time on a gal of oil now days shocking how little they use .
and if u do have a issue HUGE money to fix compare to 2s
and I dont see that 600 ace as anything but a mistake they wont have it in 2 yrs no way .I was looking with a bud recently for a doo 2 up every one was trying to pawn off the 600ace hold overs all sold out of the old 600 and 600etech .no one wants a pooch on there free time not even 2 up wife sleds.
a cat 570 will spank a 600 ace all day and cost a lot less and still run 7k mi with out issue.
they will keep the 900 around and price will not go down never dose but they will make more on it and may even make parts for it for more than 4 yrs because I think they plan on running it in the spark for yrs to come. and the water craft market will deff be coming up with power mods for it in short order

 

[Attak man]

are u sure about that re sail? I see 5 yr old 4st going for same money as 2st all the time .
u may not need to add oil but come on u can ride along time on a gal of oil now days shocking how little they use .
and if u do have a issue HUGE money to fix compare to 2s
and I dont see that 600 ace as anything but a mistake they wont have it in 2 yrs no way .I was looking with a bud recently for a doo 2 up every one was trying to pawn off the 600ace hold overs all sold out of the old 600 and 600etech .no one wants a pooch on there free time not even 2 up wife sleds.
a cat 570 will spank a 600 ace all day and cost a lot less and still run 7k mi with out issue.
they will keep the 900 around and price will not go down never dose but they will make more on it and may even make parts for it for more than 4 yrs because I think they plan on running it in the spark for yrs to come. and the water craft market will deff be coming up with power mods for it in short order

I don't know how much of a pooch the 600 ace is...I can tell you the phazer (4stroke)...will spank a cat F-5 all day long (07-now..not firecat)
However not everybody is in this sport for SPEED...I was told the ace 600 does 65 MPH..an older fellow I know has one...and loves it...he's in his late 60's...and said it was the most trouble free machine he has owned....plus 25 MPG.....NO FANNER...or carb sled will get that kind of mileage.
While it's true ...if a four stroke does fail...it's very expensive....but the chances of that are very slim...no two stroke can touch these four strokes for reliability.....I shopped around for sleds in the U.P. this fall...I couldn't get the 4 stroke models I wanted... they were priced out of my league...I did end up getting a 2 stroke (just to get something a bit newer)....they seemed to be holding their value pretty well to me....I even got high retail on my Attak GT with 13,700 miles on it. I would think these 900 aces would hold their value well...and their target buyers...probably don't buy new sleds every 2-3 years.