2021 Yamahas

[xsledder]

If there was any year for Yamaha to bring out a "Yamaha" sled, and not a rebranded Cat, this should have been the year. They have added two more 2-strokes, both made by Cat. What is Yamaha thinking? How many Yamaha loyalists will be jumping ship now? I mean, you have waited long enough for a new "Yamaha" sled and not something rebranded.

 

[harvest1121]

Well not buying anything my 2017 Viper will be fine. 18k for a Sidewinder they can keep them.

 

[old abe]

If there was any year for Yamaha to bring out a "Yamaha" sled, and not a rebranded Cat, this should have been the year. They have added two more 2-strokes, both made by Cat. What is Yamaha thinking? How many Yamaha loyalists will be jumping ship now? I mean, you have waited long enough for a new "Yamaha" sled and not something rebranded.

You might as well give it up, Yamaha doesn't want to, and they aren't going to build snowmobiles. They made that decision many years ago, and deliberately mislead us into to believing that they would build a "all new, all Yamaha" snowmobile! That is not going to happen, as you said, if it was going to be, it would have happened by now!

 

[Attak man]

That's just embarrassing...they are done. Glad I work at a Ski doo dealer, and will be riding ski doos. As an old yamaha guy, I am saddened to see this. A rebadged blast (enticer), and alpha one 800 called the "mountain max"...so you get an , low powered 800 (compared to the 850s), with a long in the tooth, cat chassis....PATHETIC!!! I feel bad for all the OLD loyal yammy guys who have waited year, after year, after year for an "ALL YAMAHA" Sled. This says alot about the direction they are headed (and CAT as well)...Apparently the big brass in Japan, have had enough with snowmobiles (the lack of effort shows this).

 

[timo]

So ummmm Yamaha released their 2021?'s. When did this go down?

 

[xsledder]

So ummmm Yamaha released their 2021?'s. When did this go down?

Today.

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You might as well give it up, Yamaha doesn't want to, and they aren't going to build snowmobiles. They made that decision many years ago, and deliberately mislead us into to believing that they would build a "all new, all Yamaha" snowmobile! That is not going to happen, as you said, if it was going to be, it would have happened by now!

I'm not a big Yamaha loyalists. I haven't been waiting for their next "Yamaha" sled other then it would be good for the loyalist to have new "Yamaha" metal. I ride with a few Yamaha loyalist and can empathize with them.

 

[old abe]

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I'm not a big Yamaha loyalists. I haven't been waiting for their next "Yamaha" sled other then it would be good for the loyalist to have new "Yamaha" metal. I ride with a few Yamaha loyalist and can empathize with them.

It is disgraceful in the least, the way they deliberately mislead so many into waiting for the new Yamaha. I waited until I smelled a ruse. If they don't value their customers any better than the have now shown, I would not own one anyway now. I can remember when they were the leader in sleds.

 

[SledTL]

Not that people aren't stupid, but with the access to information these days why would anyone pay more for the name? I suppose the same can be said for some automotive stuff, but there isn't a clear bump in accessories, add-ons, etc. that would justify a price difference. Good thing my Viper only has 900 miles and will last me another 10 years! Also does it seem their target is big in Canada and outside of Midwest? I get an odd feeling when I watch the promotional vids and stuff

 

[old abe]

Not that people aren't stupid, but with the access to information these days why would anyone pay more for the name? I suppose the same can be said for some automotive stuff, but there isn't a clear bump in accessories, add-ons, etc. that would justify a price difference. Good thing my Viper only has 900 miles and will last me another 10 years! Also does it seem their target is big in Canada and outside of Midwest? I get an odd feeling when I watch the promotional vids and stuff

Yamaha North American sled headquarters now in Canada I believe. Yamaha seriously started the 4 stroke sled market, and they walked away from it.

 

[Attak man]

10 posts, in over 2 hours (that's how many people are interested in, an outdated rebadged cat)...maybe the Yamaha guys are on the phone with their Ski Doo and Polaris dealers spring ordering new sleds???

 

[Hoosier]

Not that people aren't stupid, but with the access to information these days why would anyone pay more for the name? I suppose the same can be said for some automotive stuff, but there isn't a clear bump in accessories, add-ons, etc. that would justify a price difference. Good thing my Viper only has 900 miles and will last me another 10 years! Also does it seem their target is big in Canada and outside of Midwest? I get an odd feeling when I watch the promotional vids and stuff

You do see a ton of them up there. Our group noticed that this season.

 

[Carbide]

I was hoping for a surprise but Oh well. Still buying a Sidewinder this year. Bash me all you want.

No more 2 strokes for me. Been there done that. Plus they cost as much if not more than 4 strokes nowadays.
Yeah 4 strokes are heavy when manually moving them. But I like the longevity and not carrying oil.
And that smell on my clothes. Done with that.

 

[xsledder]

You do see a ton of them up there. Our group noticed that this season.

Just looking around at pit stops, motels and on the trail, I see an equal amount of sleds from all four manufacturers. It is hard for me to tell who is #1, #2, #3 or #4 just by eyeballing.

 

[old abe]

I was hoping for a surprise but Oh well. Still buying a Sidewinder this year. Bash me all you want.

No more 2 strokes for me. Been there done that. Plus they cost as much if not more than 4 strokes nowadays.
Yeah 4 strokes are heavy when manually moving them. But I like the longevity and not carrying oil.
And that smell on my clothes. Done with that.

Not all 4 strokes are heavy. Attak man found this out, and he was a Yamaha guy thru, and thru! Many more have now also

 

[dfattack]

10 posts, in over 2 hours (that's how many people are interested in, an outdated rebadged cat)...maybe the Yamaha guys are on the phone with their Ski Doo and Polaris dealers spring ordering new sleds???

I’m one of them. From 2002 thru 2013 I purchased 14 Yamaha sleds. I’ve been waiting for an apex replacement for years. Experimented with a 2015 viper and have had nothing but problems with it. Had to tow my son home for the first time in my life in January. I fixed it and now it’s for sale. I’m now going to spring order a Doo. I’ve owned 2 Doo’s in the past when my son was first starting out in the sport and Yamaha didn’t have lower powered 550 fan cooled type sled so I went with Doo. Upgraded him to an 600 HO MXZ and he loved that sled. I’m Tired of waiting and heading over to DOO. I’m happy with what I see with BRP and believe it’s the right move.

 

[snoden]

Your gonna love it Carbide. I'm a 4 stroke guy as well and nothing comes close to the sidewinders power...nothing! The haters will hate but none of them will line it up with you. Just one piece of advise do an LE or up for the better shock package. My winder is a LE with QS3r's and it rides awesome, even my viper has QS3's and it rides great as well. If another mfg makes a better 4 stroke than the winder then I might jump ship but, still looking. No the BRP 900t is not it....sorry duck fans!

 

[kip]

Sorry guys. Wish it was more pleasing to many of you, but I do understand.

 

[Carbide]

@snoden700viper

Do you have issues with the electronically adjustable suspension? I am a little nervous about the wiring under there when ice chunks form. I would like the QS3s as well.
Is it an option to upgrade a L-TX SE to those shocks? I really prefer the colors of the 2021 SE over the LE...

 

[snobuilder]

Yamaha brought the first HI PERFORMANCE and still the best and most powerful 4 strokes in the snowmobile industry.
Cat has a GREAT chassis.
Yamahas intro of PS should have been a revolution to the snowmobiling community.
Instead....manufacturers want us to pay 1000's for some unneeded BS 7" laptop stuck in the console......That is effed up and might end the sport due to overpricing the market to the point of leaving it in the hands of the elitists....LOL....whats this post driver thingy spose to do?...where be da screen?

I think every sled in the market could benefit from a simple PS unit to compensate for all the different snow conditions we ride on. It isn't just about weight. Too bad the industry is so driven by the SM commentary. PS seems condemned for life because it was first used on a Yamaha Apex which some in the SM community has successfully badged as an unrideable tank....smh

IMHO My wife is a professional snowmobiler. 50,000 miles on snow....probly more. 40,000 on Yamaha 4 strokes. 12,000 on her latest a PS Apex.
Last trip out the Apex exhaust got loud enough that we sent it to the garage and she was forced to ride the 18 ProS for 400 miles to complete our awesome weekend/season.
Being a pro, she adapted to it quickly and at the end of the first days 50 mile leg she already was saying positive things about it like the power was similar, it felt light, BUT in the end she still said she missed the PS of her Apex.

Did I hear that Ski Doo put some sort of a PS unit on their Sno-X sleds?....HMMMM?

To you Doo guys in this thread that is all giggly about Yamacats not meeting your expectations.....why are you Doo guys all so insecure about your own sled choices to the point you'd kick a manny when it looks to be down already?....We are down to 3.5 mannys. ..

I can just here you clowns if an when it is down to just 2.....Acting sad with false concern.

 

[xsledder]

Sorry guys. Wish it was more pleasing to many of you, but I do understand.

It would be interesting to know what the dealers are feeling. I am sure Yamaha knows the situation.