Another Poo 800 down!

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Skylar

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Friday March 27th, my 2012 Pro RMK 800 with 2800 miles took a poo! I thought I had one of the good ones, I guess not LOL. I have not had one single issue with this sled since I bought it, and this summer I was going to put a new top end in it, it didn't make it. I knew it was slowly losing power all season, but was trying to finish out the season before I did anything with it. I dropped the sled off with Kip and crew at Pat's Motorsports, and they took care of it! They rawk!! A big thanks to the internet, and snowest.com, I knew going into the purchase of it that this might happen, so i did buy the extended warranty, and it paid off! Its funny, the weekend before I was asking myself why I bought the warranty, because I have had no problems with the sled, then The Poo 800 showed its true colors! The ringland on both pistons let go, which then damaged both cylinders. I took the sled around Krupp's field yesterday evening, and man is it nice to have it rippy again! BRAAAAAAAAAP BRRAAAAAP BRAAAP!!

A huge shout out to Kip and crew at Pat's Motorsports!! A great dealer is worth EVERYTHING!!
 
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lenny

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Howdy Skylar, we all know going into that sled there is that risk but that chassis is so worth the risk. I'm glad you were taken care of AND YOUR ONE SMART MAN WITH THE WARRANTY. Kip and crew are so much of an added value, thank God for them!
 
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ezra

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did they mic the cylinders and pistons to see how out of round they were just for grins ? if so what were they ?
 
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2800 miles isn't that much. I would hope the cylinders would not be that hosed yet. Very odd to have ringlands on both pistons go at he same time. However I have seen a ring go out the exhaust port on one side and get sucked back into the other cylinder and wreck things on a two into one exhaust. Weird things happen. Oh well good call for buying the extended warrranty. Would have been a pretty spendy incident otherwise. Now you are all ready for next year.
 
eagle1

eagle1

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What!? No swearing...no ranting....no.. "i'm changing brands"????? :rolleyes: jeez, your no fun. Lol
 
skiroule

skiroule

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Glad you're back on the snow! Starting to think a durability kit may be on the list for next winter, even for my "grandpa driven" RMK.
 
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polarisrider1

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skiroule said:
Glad you're back on the snow! Starting to think a durability kit may be on the list for next winter, even for my "grandpa driven" RMK.
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I did the bike man kit at 3000 miles. Mostly because everyone had me concerned. Pistons were in perfect shape and tolerances. The Woosner pistons are of a much better design then the stock ones. All 3000 miles were on Poo VES oil. Original plugs replaced and exhaust valves cleaned for 1st time at that point. They were not hardly dirty. Turned oil up at 2800 miles. Currently at 3600 miles.
 
indy_500

indy_500

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grub said:
2800 miles isn't that much. I would hope the cylinders would not be that hosed yet. Very odd to have ringlands on both pistons go at he same time. However I have seen a ring go out the exhaust port on one side and get sucked back into the other cylinder and wreck things on a two into one exhaust. Weird things happen. Oh well good call for buying the extended warrranty. Would have been a pretty spendy incident otherwise. Now you are all ready for next year.
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I beg to differ. A trail sled with the equivalent hours on it would have 7k miles on it. Skylar doesn't miss a weekend on that sled, heck, he's riding up there right now! Still a bummer it let loose but good timing as the warranty is coming to an end and he basically has a new sled again!
 
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ezra

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I dont always buy the whole extra mi for mountian sleds in the Midwest thing heck even in the hills. how much single tracking are u doing in both places how much trail in both? even playing in the fluff u are not even close to wfo all the time . I ride the tight twisty s pretty hard wfo stab the break back to wfo all day . poss on the freeways in the up the mi may be less stressful on the motor but skiming the top of the 3 ft rollers at 70 for the weekend is like a yr of western pow mi on the chassis and suspension.
now we start talking hours how much time spent at idle waiting for your turn to head up the side of that hill or just waiting for a bud to come out of the woods or just jumping off to tug a stuck sled hours and hours or the life of a sled
 
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pwolfy2003

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Was going to keep quiet about this but figured people want to know. My 2012 POO ProR 600 went down the last week of February for the 2nd time, 2,100 miles the first time now it had 4,300 miles and took out pistons rings and cylinders. So took it to Kips and while they were fixing it we thought we should have them look at my wifes 2013 Adventure 600 with 3,700 miles on it. Well after taking it apart they found the rings and pistons were about junk too. That makes 7 Polaris motors that blew up for me since 2010. And contrary to what a lot of you think/ believe the 600 is not a good motor either. 5 of the 7 that went down on us were the 600 motors, 1 was a 4-stroke and 1 was my 2013 Pro R 800.The 2 600s are both for sale now or more aggressively for sale this fall because I will not be the owner of another Poo meltdown in my lifetime.
 
skiroule

skiroule

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polarisrider1 said:
I did the bike man kit at 3000 miles. Mostly because everyone had me concerned. Pistons were in perfect shape and tolerances. The Woosner pistons are of a much better design then the stock ones. All 3000 miles were on Poo VES oil. Original plugs replaced and exhaust valves cleaned for 1st time at that point. They were not hardly dirty. Turned oil up at 2800 miles. Currently at 3600 miles.
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Thanks PR1, this is good info. I think I just rolled over 2000 miles (like I’ve said before, I never bother to check miles) so I may run it one more year. If it is a real concern I’ll have a kit put in next fall.

I’ve been quoted about a grand for a kit, which is a lot of money but you know, I went out in the shed tonight and looked at that sled (ignoring the broken extreme bumper – that’s another story) and thought about what it feels like to point it off-trail and I think it’s well worth the price. When the conditions are right, it’s hard to describe the feeling of making it dance in the deep stuff. It even makes me a better rider.

To be fair though, when the DeLorean came out, there was no car I wanted more. Stainless steel was for cars, not appliances.
 
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polarisrider1

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skiroule said:
Thanks PR1, this is good info. I think I just rolled over 2000 miles (like I’ve said before, I never bother to check miles) so I may run it one more year. If it is a real concern I’ll have a kit put in next fall.

I’ve been quoted about a grand for a kit, which is a lot of money but you know, I went out in the shed tonight and looked at that sled (ignoring the broken extreme bumper – that’s another story) and thought about what it feels like to point it off-trail and I think it’s well worth the price. When the conditions are right, it’s hard to describe the feeling of making it dance in the deep stuff. It even makes me a better rider.

To be fair though, when the DeLorean came out, there was no car I wanted more. Stainless steel was for cars, not appliances.
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My brother does the bike man kits for $1000 OTD. Parts and labor. He has a shop and has done a few. He's a Cat/Doo guy and has done many doo 800R motors also.
 
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lenny

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Hey Wayne , you have had your sled a few years now. You have an intentions of getting a new model any time soon with the HO motor?
 
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kip

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Skylar, thanks for bringing it here and I hope you had a great weekend on the snow with it!! Bet you were riding in a tee shirt on Saturday!!!
 
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ezra

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the 1 thing I don't get about the majority of the kits is the shim.
ok they say the cheep poo pistons quickly loose roundness from dropping to deep in to the case and rocking because of the lack of skirt length.
I get the fact that the pistons have a diff connecting point requiring the shim. but the rod is not changing .the piston still is dropping down the same amount .why the shims? is it they did not want to start from scratch and just found a wossner that would fit the hole?
why is it RTK has a wosner kit that requires no shim. and I thought he had one that needed a head. now the head one imho is the most logical to me. move down the connecting rod in to the piston and push the head up ?
BTW skiroule dont pay a grand it is a ez job less than a few hrs what else u got to do now days ;)
 
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