The Bears are much better on paper but very young team to me similar to Jacksonville in the last 2 years. 2 years ago the Jags on paper looked like they could make a run but fell short in many close games. Last year the Jags got it together and made a run for the SB but fell short in the playoffs. The Bears imo are going to be competitive in 2018 and have to at least split in the North. Mr Rogers has owned the Bears for too many years and he is the X factor in the North. The North will be a lot more fun when Chicago is a good team and a team becomes the best by beating the best. I don’t see any easy games in the North Division unless the Bears underperform and if they do Pace will be gone which will be a disaster. These are Pace’s guys and they know it so time to start winning.
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Who knew!
And there he is with wunna dem Bears? Oh no, that's a "Striped Tiger".
In the immortal words of Gilda Radner as Emily Litella, on Saturday Night Live, circa 1975-1978):
"Never mind".
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https://www.totalpackers.com/2018/03/what-must-aaron-rodgers-be-thinking/
Good read, pretty much what we have been sayin. everyone but timo realizing the possibility rodgers could be getting ready to flee GB.
Good read, pretty much what we have been sayin. everyone but timo realizing the possibility rodgers could be getting ready to flee GB.
I thought this was interesting....I continue to think it would be insane for Aaron to presently commit the rest of his career to this operation. This team is beset with turmoil and uncertainty. No one knows how the player, coaching, and front office changes will sort themselves out.
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I think they have made some mistakes, in the psyche of Rodgers, especially over the past few months. In a way they are trying to model after the pats. don't over pay, and pretty much be ruthless even to their 'own', as far as contracts. They offered jordy the league minimum, basically..million a year..... and he got 13 mil from raiders. pretty insulting to him.
IMO, the major problem with imitating the pats and brady...is that Rodgers and brady are not cut from the same cloth mentally. brady is quite a bit mentally tougher and I think understands you have to let your buds go to accomplish the ultimate goal. winning. where as Rodgers thinks hey that's my buddy we should keep him, IDC what it costs. winning is essentially an after thought. Brady had no problem letting moss go, welker go, amendola go...never heard a peep from him. Rodgers needs to be a little more coddled and get what he wants.
Part 1: “Obtaining Packer people”
How can an organization talk about obtaining Packer people when the people at the top of the totem pole are the polar opposite of what they claim to be seeking?
News Flash Packers Nation! Your team is no longer run by Packer people. Your team no longer holds themselves to the standards the franchise was built on and what they did when they celebrated the ultimate successes. This is not the team I know and love.
Brian Gutekunst. You’ve got some balls man. Who are you to spit in the face of one of the all-time great Packers to ever lace them up? What’s your contribution to this organization’s success over the years? This is not rhetorical at all. I really don’t know what players you uncovered or championed… good or bad.
BUT… you were in the right place at the right time when a weak president showed a dearth of leadership rarely seen at this level of business or professional sports. I guess that alone gives you the right to insult not only Jordy Nelson, but pretty much every other player on the Packers’ roster.
Several sources (most notably Jason Wilde ESPN Wisconsin) have reported Nelson was offered slightly more than the league minimum for a 10-year vet, just over a million dollars a year. Earlier today, Nelson received full realization on just how insulting the Packers’ offer was when he signed a deal paying him $13 million guaranteed over two years with the Oakland Raiders.
Part 2: “Stable Structure.”
(BUZZER SOUNDS)
Sorry! Try again! You guys just cut the heart and soul of your entire organization, the best locker room guy and teammate in order to sign an aging tight end. Not just the heart and soul mind you, but the one player who embodies and has embodied everything this organization is supposed to pride itself on. Everything this organization USED to pride itself on.
Part 3:” Focusing on Character and Chemistry.”
Once upon a time the Packers team I grew up loving would value Jordy Nelson’s character and what he brought to the locker room. But times change and values change, even for organizations.
Mark Murphy buckled like a belt and abandoned his plan to name Russ Ball general manager once Mike McCarthy stuck his nose in those proceedings. The head coach then got his man in Brian Gutekunst, who promptly went against every point of McCarthy’s mission statement in cutting Jordy Nelson.
If this is the Packers’ leadership being on the same page philosophically, then expect a lot more failures than successes in the season to come.
They say winning cures all ills. Well you know what? I don’t even care if it turns out to be the right moves personnel-wise, because as a fan of this team, as someone who has always taken pride in the phrase “Packer People” and what it is SUPPOSED to mean, I am severely disappointed in the manner in which this decision played out and am deeply concerned about the direction of this franchise.
I enjoy reading all of these posts, and it really shows how passionate you all are. However, relax guys, and worry about what you can actually control. I am a packer season ticket holder, have been for many years, but also like the bears and several other NFL teams, really the NFL in general.
Packers have had a GREAT RUN the past 20+ years or so, with the exclusion of last year and one or two others, and we should appreciate that. Sure they could of and should of done more, winning only 2 super bowls, but in the playoffs all the time, in the NFL Championship game several times (though they lost a bunch), so at least they are getting there and getting the opportunity.
Furthermore, the Packers, though "community owned" in spirit, owe nothing to anyone, as select shareholders own the team. Not the X number of people who bought the worthless pieces of paper in essence to give them an interest free loan. It is a business, they run it like a business, and they are doing what they think is best. Maybe we as avid fans and diehards do not agree, but .....
As for Aaron Rodgers, it would be a shame to lose him, but the landscape of the NFL is changing, and the Packers need to change with it as well. Nelson was a great locker room guy, heart and soul of the team, but decisions need to be made. Yeah Aaron is probably not happy, but he needs to do what he needs to do and worry about himself. He has a huge ego, and deserves it, but not everything in life you can control. As for the next packer QB, could be in the draft, just never know........ Who thought Rodgers falling all through the draft would be the savior he is, carrying forward what Favre started, but could never let go of.
As for the comments that the team is in turmoil and based with uncertainty, that again is opinion and speculation. History is the best teacher, and history still tells us that the Packer team and maybe even the organization is still a lot better then the Bears and really 75% of the other NFL teams. To be good on paper and to project out to be good in a few years is definately something to be excited about, but until it's proven on the field, hope is all you can have.
Still see the Packers as being relevant in a tough division, and again, until some of the other North teams can prove that they can not only get in the playoffs consistently, but actually win a game or two when there, GB is still relevant.
Could be completely wrong here, but still think the Packers have a good plan in place, can and will remain relevant, both now and in the future, with or even without Aaron for the long haul. Debate on.....
Packers have had a GREAT RUN the past 20+ years or so, with the exclusion of last year and one or two others, and we should appreciate that. Sure they could of and should of done more, winning only 2 super bowls, but in the playoffs all the time, in the NFL Championship game several times (though they lost a bunch), so at least they are getting there and getting the opportunity.
Furthermore, the Packers, though "community owned" in spirit, owe nothing to anyone, as select shareholders own the team. Not the X number of people who bought the worthless pieces of paper in essence to give them an interest free loan. It is a business, they run it like a business, and they are doing what they think is best. Maybe we as avid fans and diehards do not agree, but .....
As for Aaron Rodgers, it would be a shame to lose him, but the landscape of the NFL is changing, and the Packers need to change with it as well. Nelson was a great locker room guy, heart and soul of the team, but decisions need to be made. Yeah Aaron is probably not happy, but he needs to do what he needs to do and worry about himself. He has a huge ego, and deserves it, but not everything in life you can control. As for the next packer QB, could be in the draft, just never know........ Who thought Rodgers falling all through the draft would be the savior he is, carrying forward what Favre started, but could never let go of.
As for the comments that the team is in turmoil and based with uncertainty, that again is opinion and speculation. History is the best teacher, and history still tells us that the Packer team and maybe even the organization is still a lot better then the Bears and really 75% of the other NFL teams. To be good on paper and to project out to be good in a few years is definately something to be excited about, but until it's proven on the field, hope is all you can have.
Still see the Packers as being relevant in a tough division, and again, until some of the other North teams can prove that they can not only get in the playoffs consistently, but actually win a game or two when there, GB is still relevant.
Could be completely wrong here, but still think the Packers have a good plan in place, can and will remain relevant, both now and in the future, with or even without Aaron for the long haul. Debate on.....
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Nevermind these two (MO and WD) they play arm chair GM like no one you've ever seen and are dead wrong like 90% of the time.
I recall for one month debating Mo on Cam Newton's skills, Mo wanted no part of him, I said he was solid. The following year he was MVP and in the SB. Last year I nailed the Bears record to T. And when Rodgers signs his garganum lifetime contract maybe Mo will stop posting these fake links.
They're desperate for a winner and see a crack in the Packer foundation, where they get this turmoil stuff from??? Who knows?? Pure speculation and innuendo.
But it's fun banter cuzz I guess I still keep coming back for more.
I recall for one month debating Mo on Cam Newton's skills, Mo wanted no part of him, I said he was solid. The following year he was MVP and in the SB. Last year I nailed the Bears record to T. And when Rodgers signs his garganum lifetime contract maybe Mo will stop posting these fake links.
They're desperate for a winner and see a crack in the Packer foundation, where they get this turmoil stuff from??? Who knows?? Pure speculation and innuendo.
But it's fun banter cuzz I guess I still keep coming back for more.
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If rodgers was set on staying in GB this deal woulda been done already. ur the only packers fan i kno with blinders thick enough to ignore the issues within the packers franchise right now.
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Read today that packers were pushing hard for Allen Robinson to play in cheeseland. Robinson said it was down to GB or Chicago. Glad he choose the good guys.
Yeah I saw that too which means the Bears beat out the Pack on both Robinson and Fuller. That does not bode well for future talent and skill players even with Rogers in the line up. Could it be one team is ascending and the other team is in decline?
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He'll be regretting that decision when his team is scoring 14 points a game and balls are bouncing at his feet.
Fuller would of been nice to have,,,,You can have Robinson. I've seen way to many WR's enter FA get that big money and suck.
Robinson got a11 million $ cap hit this year and back to back 15 million $ hits the next two years. OUCH! That's a lot of chocolate cake for a guy who wrecked his knee last year and had 880 yards and 6 scores the year before. Unless I'm getting Antonio Brown 15 mill in a waste of money for a WR.
Robinson got a11 million $ cap hit this year and back to back 15 million $ hits the next two years. OUCH! That's a lot of chocolate cake for a guy who wrecked his knee last year and had 880 yards and 6 scores the year before. Unless I'm getting Antonio Brown 15 mill in a waste of money for a WR.
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we shall see!!! Looking forward to you eating all your words next year....especially about trubisky.
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Tell that to the eagles about alshon jeffrey. pace learned his lesson letting him go and it was a must getting a #1 receiver. even if he did overpay a little. The packers offered him same money, no thanks tho, rather play with trubisky
LOL,,,
my man MoMoney,,,,,you're my guy.
you still got a full stomach from all your words the last three years.
my man MoMoney,,,,,you're my guy.
you still got a full stomach from all your words the last three years.
we shall see!!! Looking forward to you eating all your words next year....especially about trubisky.
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Tell that to the eagles about alshon jeffrey. pace learned his lesson letting him go and it was a must getting a #1 receiver. even if he did overpay a little. The packers offered him same money, no thanks tho, rather play with trubisky
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To bad allen robinson didnt see those rankings or he wouldnt have chosen the bears.
LOL no one wants to go to packers and play besides washed up guys
hey maybe they will get odell beckham, he will fit right in!