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[momoney2123]

OMG dude please of all the links you posted that has to be the most absurd. I didn't even bother to waste my time reading it. Who wrote this Stevie Wonder??? Did they watch football?? Did they watch Watson throw for 4 and 5 TD's a game every damn game he played????
Cmon Mo,,,, you can't even be serious. Watson averaged like 25 plus more points a game than his counter part in Texas.

When Watson blew his knee out there was talk of him being the MVP of the league,,,,(after only 6 games he was playing that absurdly well) Trubisky is ranked,,,what,,,, between 27-32 for starting QB's.
This is fake new at its finest.

Thanks for the laugh today tho,,,,,

Must be having a bad day lol

i didnt grade them, pro football focus(pretty reputal company) did and it explains why........but your to smart to read it....i guess they dont watch or know football as well as you.

Also out of the 7 games he played , 3 games he had 4 or 5 TD's not in every game he played, lol, So check your stats....side note in one of those games he had 3 pics.... and they lost. not to mention in those games his completion percentage was 50% area....

Im not saying desaun watson didnt play well or didnt play better than trubisky. he did. but trubisky as mentioned didnt get nearly enough credit given each QB's circumstances.

 

[timo]

Ok u can decipher stats everywhich way till Sunday.
Here’s the stat u need to know:
7 games Watson 21 total TD’s
12 games Trubisky 9 total TD’s
Of coarse Trebisky is going to have more yards he played more games .
U said it 3 and 4 games he had 4 and 5 td’s. 5 scores is more than a months worth of TD’s from Mitch. I mean cmon Mo it’s not really close and u dam we’ll know it.
I didn’t graduate MIT but I’m confident in telling u one QB averaged 3 scores while the other about .08.
And I had an awesome day.




QUOTE=momoney2123;462616]Must be having a bad day lol

i didnt grade them, pro football focus(pretty reputal company) did and it explains why........but your to smart to read it....i guess they dont watch or know football as well as you.

Also out of the 7 games he played , 3 games he had 4 or 5 TD's not in every game he played, lol, So check your stats....side note in one of those games he had 3 pics.... and they lost. not to mention in those games his completion percentage was 50% area....

Im not saying desaun watson didnt play well or didnt play better than trubisky. he did. but trubisky as mentioned didnt get nearly enough credit given each QB's circumstances.[/QUOTE]

 

[momoney2123]

Ok u can decipher stats everywhich way till Sunday.
Here’s the stat u need to know:
7 games Watson 21 total TD’s
12 games Trubisky 9 total TD’s
Of coarse Trebisky is going to have more yards he played more games .
U said it 3 and 4 games he had 4 and 5 td’s. 5 scores is more than a months worth of TD’s from Mitch. I mean cmon Mo it’s not really close and u dam we’ll know it.
I didn’t graduate MIT but I’m confident in telling u one QB averaged 3 scores while the other about .08.
And I had an awesome day.




QUOTE=momoney2123;462616]Must be having a bad day lol

i didnt grade them, pro football focus(pretty reputal company) did and it explains why........but your to smart to read it....i guess they dont watch or know football as well as you.

Also out of the 7 games he played , 3 games he had 4 or 5 TD's not in every game he played, lol, So check your stats....side note in one of those games he had 3 pics.... and they lost. not to mention in those games his completion percentage was 50% area....

Im not saying desaun watson didnt play well or didnt play better than trubisky. he did. but trubisky as mentioned didnt get nearly enough credit given each QB's circumstances.

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The overall raw statistics give the edge to Watson...duh....


But as always, it's more complicated than the raw statistics. Watson threw to All-Universe receiver DeAndre Hopkins and home-run hitter Will Fuller. Trubisky's top receivers were Kendall Wright and Dontrelle Inman. Watson's coach is a supposed quarterback guru in Bill O'Brien. Trubisky's coach was John Fox. Advantage: Watson.

Look, both the Bears and the Texans should be hopeful for better futures because of their young quarterbacks. Both players demonstrated that they have the skill set that's needed to thrive in the NFL.

The bottom line is that both quarterbacks project to have bright futures, which is good for the league. With all-time great quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers getting up there in age, the NFL is in need of a future generation of top-flight quarterbacks. From Carson Wentz and Jared Goff to Trubisky and Watson, the future is already here.

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Like i said. I didnt grade them. PFF did. They dont just look at TD passes timo. all things considered Im looking foward to seeing what a real offensive coach, along with new WR's can do with mitch aka the assasin next year.

Look if he doesnt take a huge step foward and has 15 TD's and 12 pics next year, ill be the 1st to say i was wrong and he isnt that good. just dont see that happening

 

[timo]

We'll see Mo,,,,,
I would expect more than 15 TD's from him and yet another Packer season sweep.








The overall raw statistics give the edge to Watson...duh....


But as always, it's more complicated than the raw statistics. Watson threw to All-Universe receiver DeAndre Hopkins and home-run hitter Will Fuller. Trubisky's top receivers were Kendall Wright and Dontrelle Inman. Watson's coach is a supposed quarterback guru in Bill O'Brien. Trubisky's coach was John Fox. Advantage: Watson.

Look, both the Bears and the Texans should be hopeful for better futures because of their young quarterbacks. Both players demonstrated that they have the skill set that's needed to thrive in the NFL.

The bottom line is that both quarterbacks project to have bright futures, which is good for the league. With all-time great quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers getting up there in age, the NFL is in need of a future generation of top-flight quarterbacks. From Carson Wentz and Jared Goff to Trubisky and Watson, the future is already here.

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Like i said. I didnt grade them. PFF did. They dont just look at TD passes timo. all things considered Im looking foward to seeing what a real offensive coach, along with new WR's can do with mitch aka the assasin next year.

Look if he doesnt take a huge step foward and has 15 TD's and 12 pics next year, ill be the 1st to say i was wrong and he isnt that good. just dont see that happening[/QUOTE]

 

[momoney2123]

We'll see Mo,,,,,
I would expect more than 15 TD's from him and yet another Packer season sweep.

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So would I, unless he has 15 Tds and 2 pics. Id consider that a success. but realistically id hope for 24ish TD's, 10 or less pics.

The bears are coming along. A rising young defense, with a top 10 pick and 80 million in cap space.

With the right FA signings and a good draft, the bears roster could fill out nicely.

The packers are still favored to sweep as long as rodgers stays healthy....

I do expect the bears to start closing the gap, one year from now, we will really know a lot.

 

[momoney2123]

One thing no one gave trubisky credit for last year was 3rd and long. He was the 3rd highest ranked passer with a 107.4 on 3rd and 6 or longer. Not easy for anyone let alone a rookie QB.


"The fact that he was able to put up as good of a quarterback rating as he did on third downs is impressive considering how often he was forced to throw the football on third down last season. Through mid-December he was the only qualifying quarterback who had not thrown an interception on third down until he did so against the Detroit Lions on December 16.

Third-down passing is not the be-all, end-all when it comes to being a successful quarterback, but that is a skill that most young quarterbacks do not excel at early in their careers. With a new head coach and offensive system in place in Chicago, Trubisky should be able to improve on the numbers next season."

 

[timo]

Defenses are now going to know what to look for and expect from Michelle,,, which makes 2nd year growth critical. Make or brake year and 3rd year for most young QB's.
not getting a pass from the Packers D this year,,, no way, no how...
#revamped

 

[momoney2123]

Defenses are now going to know what to look for and expect from Michelle,,, which makes 2nd year growth critical. Make or brake year and 3rd year for most young QB's.
not getting a pass from the Packers D this year,,, no way, no how...
#revamped

Packers and defense shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence, unless crap is also in there haha

 

[timo]

yup
as in gonna be kicking the crap out of offenses,,,,,

Packers and defense shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence, unless crap is also in there haha

 

[whitedust]

Pace has the truck backed up at Hallas Hall...If old and history of injury or poor play ba bye making room for FAs and young blood and he has lots of money. Glennon goes as soon as 2nd week in March I believe already been announced.

 

[momoney2123]

well sounds like they got allen robinson, best WR on the FA market. That should help.

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Also trey burton from eagles TE. looks like pace no excuses for trubisky. gona have WR's, TE's, RB's.....hoping they get that ND offensive linemen in the draft and here we go.....

and expected to sign that slot receiver from KC.

 

[timo]

Thought you had no time for guys with broke ACL's Mo???

well sounds like they got allen robinson, best WR on the FA market. That should help.

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Also trey burton from eagles TE. looks like pace no excuses for trubisky. gona have WR's, TE's, RB's.....hoping they get that ND offensive linemen in the draft and here we go.....

and expected to sign that slot receiver from KC.

 

[momoney2123]

Thought you had no time for guys with broke ACL's Mo???

I mean ideally id like him more without an ACL tear, but it is what it is, bears need WR's and he was the best avaliable...so yea....

 

[momoney2123]

Winners: Bears
With Allen Robinson, the Bears got the complete, young No. 1 wideout they needed for Mitchell Trubisky. With Trey Burton, they got an up-and-coming pass-catching tight end from a similar Eagles offense. With Taylor Gabriel, they got a versatile cog they will use in a variety of ways. New coach Matt Nagy and GM Ryan Pace are copycatting what the Eagles' Doug Pederson and Howie Roseman did for their QB taken No. 2 overall: pouring on the help.

On the side at wide receiver, Chicago also brought back Cameron Meredith as a restricted free agent and avoided the temptation of Jarvis Landry while also making sure Jordan Howard sticks as the stud in the backfield. Using the transition tag on rising corner Kyle Fuller and re-signing Prince Amukamara, too, is also bound to pay off, as the Bears kept their defense intact for Vic Fangio. Don't expect Pace to be finished, but he got off the blocks well for Nagy.


So far pace doing whats expected. Getting trubisky some help at WR. With meredith coming back as well as belamy, that gives them 4 recievers better than they had pretty much all of last year . Now i think for sure 1st round pick is either Nelson the Guard or best available defender.

Some surprise moves out of cheeseland. Happy i will not be seeing anymore 60+ yard passes from rodgers to jordy. Good career wish him well. Hey if he wants cheap money come over to help trubisky.

I do think jimmy graham will help them especially in the redzone.

Not sure what wilkerson has left and i dont think the packers do either as they only risked one year deal.

 

[timo]

Would of rather seen Cobb go. Jordy's leading the league in TD's at week 7 when Rodgers gets hurt and now he's out of a job.
Thanks a bunch Huntley.
Wilkerson,,,meh
Graham,,,meh,,,, besides a bunch of 5 yard TD catch's his numbers the last few years aren't impressive and are only declining. 16 games played last year and 520 yards anyone can get that.

Free Agency is really fools gold anyways.

Winners: Bears
With Allen Robinson, the Bears got the complete, young No. 1 wideout they needed for Mitchell Trubisky. With Trey Burton, they got an up-and-coming pass-catching tight end from a similar Eagles offense. With Taylor Gabriel, they got a versatile cog they will use in a variety of ways. New coach Matt Nagy and GM Ryan Pace are copycatting what the Eagles' Doug Pederson and Howie Roseman did for their QB taken No. 2 overall: pouring on the help.

On the side at wide receiver, Chicago also brought back Cameron Meredith as a restricted free agent and avoided the temptation of Jarvis Landry while also making sure Jordan Howard sticks as the stud in the backfield. Using the transition tag on rising corner Kyle Fuller and re-signing Prince Amukamara, too, is also bound to pay off, as the Bears kept their defense intact for Vic Fangio. Don't expect Pace to be finished, but he got off the blocks well for Nagy.


So far pace doing whats expected. Getting trubisky some help at WR. With meredith coming back as well as belamy, that gives them 4 recievers better than they had pretty much all of last year . Now i think for sure 1st round pick is either Nelson the Guard or best available defender.

Some surprise moves out of cheeseland. Happy i will not be seeing anymore 60+ yard passes from rodgers to jordy. Good career wish him well. Hey if he wants cheap money come over to help trubisky.

I do think jimmy graham will help them especially in the redzone.

Not sure what wilkerson has left and i dont think the packers do either as they only risked one year deal.

 

[momoney2123]

Would of rather seen Cobb go. Jordy's leading the league in TD's at week 7 when Rodgers gets hurt and now he's out of a job.
Thanks a bunch Huntley.
Wilkerson,,,meh
Graham,,,meh,,,, besides a bunch of 5 yard TD catch's his numbers the last few years aren't impressive and are only declining. 16 games played last year and 520 yards anyone can get that.

Free Agency is really fools gold anyways.

I think graham may be re birthed with rodgers if he stays healthy. He dominated with brees, but never with wilson....

Free agency is something the packers have largely ignored...and it has cost them dearly.

Packers have devante on the outside, so keeping cobb for the slot makes sense to me.

 

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momoney

You didn't list the below winner. Favorite to win the NFC!

[h=2]Winners: Kirk Cousins and Vikings[/h]Minnesota splurged on a three-year deal with big guaranteed money (a reported $84 million) to make sure it got Cousins, and the QB's other suitors didn't.
It works out well for both player and team, as the Vikings thought about Cousins entering his age-30 season knowing they're in the right window to win a Super Bowl with him. He's a perfect fit in the West Coast offense, inheriting ideal skill position weapons in Stefon Diggs, Adam Thielen, Kyle Rudolph and Dalvin Cook.
Cousins made top-market money up front and landed with a contender that will help him push his career to a higher (see: winning) level of success. The NFC runners-up from 2017 are the new NFC favorites for 2018.

 

[momoney2123]

momoney

You didn't list the below winner. Favorite to win the NFC!

[h=2]Winners: Kirk Cousins and Vikings[/h]Minnesota splurged on a three-year deal with big guaranteed money (a reported $84 million) to make sure it got Cousins, and the QB's other suitors didn't.
It works out well for both player and team, as the Vikings thought about Cousins entering his age-30 season knowing they're in the right window to win a Super Bowl with him. He's a perfect fit in the West Coast offense, inheriting ideal skill position weapons in Stefon Diggs, Adam Thielen, Kyle Rudolph and Dalvin Cook.
Cousins made top-market money up front and landed with a contender that will help him push his career to a higher (see: winning) level of success. The NFC runners-up from 2017 are the new NFC favorites for 2018.

No doubt they are winners getting cousins and are by far the best team in division. If cousins plays well and they stay healthy they will be very tough to beat

 

[whitedust]

Liking what Pace did today! 2 WRs 1 TE and a kicker FAs. Kept Bellamyand Meredith so prolly done upgrading receivers not sure where Wright ends up yet and White still here too. Draft goes for edge rusher or O line. A little weak at lb too. Tribisky can throw that long ball now use that laser arm. Should be an excellent draft back up QB done too so draft should really be good. Fox has to be thinking *** I didn’t have talent like this! Bears should be competitive in 2018 pieces are coming together.

 

[momoney2123]

Liking what Pace did today! 2 WRs 1 TE and a kicker FAs. Kept Bellamyand Meredith so prolly done upgrading receivers not sure where Wright ends up yet and White still here too. Draft goes for edge rusher or O line. A little weak at lb too. Tribisky can throw that long ball now use that laser arm. Should be an excellent draft back up QB done too so draft should really be good. Fox has to be thinking *** I didn’t have talent like this! Bears should be competitive in 2018 pieces are coming together.

Plan is coming together. Can't wait for trubisky to show the league what he has.

Trouble in paradise? I think so...

http://www.12up.com/posts/6003734-a...ing-jordy-nelson-for-jimmy-graham?a_aid=40396