lol we all use to do that to our parents cars
Beleive dealer swapped dash
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lol we all use to do that to our parents cars
POLARISDAN
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i dont need hours..bought mine new from kip..dash went out year one..warranty..my dash says hours..ALOT..and avg MPH 78...hahahhahahahahahaha
Tampering with a dash on a unit is never good. I had a instance last year with a sled that had a odometer issue and we still under warranty. The dash went out on it so I replaced it under warranty. I let every person know about it before I sold it. Customers are fine with things but you have to be truthful about it before the sale otherwise you've set yourself up for failure as a dealer. I've certainly made my share of mistakes over the year but I don't make them knowingly. A guy gotta sleep at night
In my opinion being as this was a factory sled sale, Yamaha would get involved and it would surprise me if they don't. Yamaha does not tolerate dealers who don't represent them in a professional manner. There are a lot of Yamaha auctions units out there but those units are still factory supported. If a dealer tampers with them Yamaha will not take kindly to that as Yamaha represents them 100% accurate so the dealer knows upfront exactly what he or she is getting. There's a reason dealers can advertise these sleds cheaper, they pay less for them. Most sleds you see advertised at low prices are usually a auction unit. Dealers cannot lose thousands and stay in business. Little of topic here, sorry.
In my opinion being as this was a factory sled sale, Yamaha would get involved and it would surprise me if they don't. Yamaha does not tolerate dealers who don't represent them in a professional manner. There are a lot of Yamaha auctions units out there but those units are still factory supported. If a dealer tampers with them Yamaha will not take kindly to that as Yamaha represents them 100% accurate so the dealer knows upfront exactly what he or she is getting. There's a reason dealers can advertise these sleds cheaper, they pay less for them. Most sleds you see advertised at low prices are usually a auction unit. Dealers cannot lose thousands and stay in business. Little of topic here, sorry.5-700 vs. probably well over 2000 is a full season or two for most riders - and that makes a huge difference in pricing when buying a used sled.
Clearly with the "stealer" not wanting to own up to his blatant screwing you over, I would never go back. For anything.
Not sure its worth fighting, other than doing your best to smear his name.
Clearly with the "stealer" not wanting to own up to his blatant screwing you over, I would never go back. For anything.
Not sure its worth fighting, other than doing your best to smear his name.
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um...its possibly not the dealer but the customer....lets say if you was ta own a sled....and ya wanted top dolla upon trade in.....so ya get this idea that ya gonna unplug the speedo for a spell so that the miles are low for trade in....then you did this year after year...and then ya got the brilliant idea that since no one was noticing this...what if ya upped it even more....I digress....carry on.....DOH
This is why I buy used sleds from Pat's. Kip will tell you up front if he suspects a sled has been laid over or if the used sled has any signs of abuse so you know exactly what you are buying. I don't think I will buy a sled from anyone but Kip.... maybe a private party I know very well but my dealer is Pat's.....none better that I have found.
Thanks for all the replies and support. To be honest, I feel a bit like a fool and should have known better. I will live and learn from this, just need to decide next step, if any.
Kip - I was wondering if you were going to respond because usually you are spot on. I have been in touch with Yamaha customer service, and while they were pleasant to deal with, I hit a dead end. Basically was told I will need a subpoena to move forward. To do that, I believe I will need an attorney. Is there another person you might know I could be in contact with to elevate? Of course, your name and business will stay out of this.
FWIW, I am registered on this sled as the first owner, with a 1 year standard Yamaha warrantee.
Kip - I was wondering if you were going to respond because usually you are spot on. I have been in touch with Yamaha customer service, and while they were pleasant to deal with, I hit a dead end. Basically was told I will need a subpoena to move forward. To do that, I believe I will need an attorney. Is there another person you might know I could be in contact with to elevate? Of course, your name and business will stay out of this.
FWIW, I am registered on this sled as the first owner, with a 1 year standard Yamaha warrantee.
That doesn't sound like Yamaha, they will usually contact the dealer and help them or encourage them to resolve the issue. That response leads me to believe that the dealer is not being forthcoming with the story and possibly throwing you under the bus claiming you knew the situation. I'm not saying that's for sure what's happening but when Yamaha backs away that's what I'm thinking. As far as the customer is concerned Yamaha is awesome at resolving any issue unless the dealer is not on the side of the customer. You don't have to feel like a fool, you should be able to trust people but that's not always the case unfortunately. 103 hours does amount to a good amount of miles no doubt. Good to know you have a warranty. No worries on the engine but it's nice to cover chaincase and drive line which some good miles have obviously been used up there.
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let me save you ALOT of time and energy....I was a YAMAMAHAMA man for many years...I encountered a problem with me sled....I did all you did plus more....finally I called yamahahaha overseas...customer service...took days and days to talk to someone and not cheap either....finally...I got an answer from someone that might be able to help me and certainly had the power to do so...since no dealer would...their answer....and this is why I am a CAT MAN TODAY...their BRILLIANT ANSWER was......just buy another one.....I hung up the phone and bought my first EFI CAT machine with reverse....yama had neither options so theres that....9 times better product...glad I did.....went from working on every year and sometimes multiple fixings in a month....to never had to rebuild an engine since....or rivets....or plastic parts...or waiting for accessories....or high priced searching all over the country for parts...or waiting months and seasons for parts....best thing I ever did was to tell them I surely wont be buying any YAMAMAHAMA products anymore....dats me 20c worth
Ok please date this conversation with Yamaha & 2s or 4s problem? Don't know but sounds like a 90s conversation which would be a 20+ year conversation.lol
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the same problems still occur today....remember KIPS thread about the sidewinder and the LACK of parts and NO ACCESSORIES available? that's just the tip....and if its a problem on a new bad azzz sidy windy that they want to be their flagstone....doncha think parts and accessories would want to be supplied SOMEWHAT first before a roll out....polarious/ cat and skidont....... all.....DONT HAVE THAT PROBLEM...plus CAT will almost always split it with you or cover it all...period....so does polarious....skidont...not so much but some....yami...none....go try to have your motor warrantied with yami....it is....IMPOSSIBLE...tunnel...nope....front damage...nope....springs failing or parts flying off brandy new machine...nope....its your fault....clutch...we don't cover those...on and on and on.....good luck
PS....repeat the mantra when all else fails....
BUY A NEW YAMAHA...you will be pleased....JOE
Bought plenty of Yamahas never never had a problem with any part but can't speak for a Yamaha experience in the 90s when you are talking Cat EFI like it is hi tech...lol... you date yourself.
snobuilder
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Going back to the 70's and the SRX's...never had a problem getting all the parts we needed. Same goes for the 80's, 90's 2000's and today....although recently, all we needed was a belt or 2 and hyfax.
Clutches at 10,000 miles.
Clutches at 10,000 miles.