Bribery

frnash

Active member
Sheep don't consider themselves sheep if they truly 'believe' they're making their own decisions. But if you have the same virtue signaling brand snowmobile, tow vehicle or face diaper baklava [sic] that your buddies have, or you're easily swayed by bumper sticker catch phases..... :stupid:
baklava:
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Yum! :eagerness:
 

dfattack

Well-known member
old abe, we are all entitled to our opinion, right or wrong it is still your or my opinion, but to compare the prior administration/leader against well known "fascists" in history, I don't have to read anything to know what we had is even comparable to what was going on in the time in history you pointed out. The fact of the matter is our prior leader/administration was doomed from day one, by a party that had one mission, not to help or fix the country but to remove someone from power, criticized and crucified for everything he did or said. IF he had done things our current leader/administration is doing it would have been 24 hour news, criticism and crucification. I will agree sometimes I didn't like his mouth and I also feel in the end the mouth was part of losing the election, instead of hammering in his accomplishments he spent more time belittling people which yes made him look bad. But the fact of the matter is he did everything he said he was going to do, and for years we had prim and proper leaders and here comes the no filters one and told it like it was to a people who were lied to for many years. I ask you what has sleepy accomplished? prior administration fascism? I don't think so. I would have to vote for Howdy Doody or Gumby for president as it would be clearly better that what we have now and we are only months in...IMO

You know we both agree on most of these topics, but what has been accomplished??? hahaha... remember that short list of crazy things I listed in another thread about what is going on today? In a weird way too...they are doing everything they promised and more. That's the problem. This administration has complete freedom to push their agenda on us and the previous administration did not. Even with the limitations of Rhino's against him, press against him and the rest of congress against him he still was had much success.

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Perhaps? After 1-6-2021, you need to read the history. My parents generation fought and died to rid the world of fascism!

Well they are back and running our government.

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I am curious. You people who are against vaccine And masking,if Trump said to mask and get the shot would you?

Nope. He said in the beginning what the "experts" (fauci, scarf lady, etc) were telling him to say as he nor the majority of the world knew what the heck was going on. The the science revealed what was what. Eventually he had covid (Masks don't work), got treated with existing meds and took off the mask. Next...
 
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old abe

Well-known member
You know we both agree on most of these topics, but what has been accomplished??? hahaha... remember that short list of crazy things I listed in another thread about what is going on today? In a weird way too...they are doing everything they promised and more. That's the problem. This administration has complete freedom to push their agenda on us and the previous administration did not. Even with the limitations of Rhino's against him, press against him and the rest of congress against him he still was had much success.

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Well they are back and running our government.

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Nope. He said in the beginning what the "experts" (fauci, scarf lady, etc) were telling him to say as him nor the majority of the world knew what the heck was going on. The the science revealed what was what. Eventually he had covid (Masks don't work), got treated with existing meds and took off the mask. Next...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
 

renegade

Active member
Perhaps? After 1-6-2021, you need to read the history. My parents generation fought and died to rid the world of fascism!

Wonder how many who died fighting for freedom and keeping us free would prefer the last administration vs current?
 

ezra

Well-known member
Don't you think something that killed off even 1/16th of the people covid did deserves a full multi nation investigation on exactly where it came from and who knew what and when ?
Let's put it this way
What do you think would be going on right now if we thought Trump funded manipulating a virus that killed even 19 people ?
 

old abe

Well-known member
Don't you think something that killed off even 1/16th of the people covid did deserves a full multi nation investigation on exactly where it came from and who knew what and when ?
Let's put it this way
What do you think would be going on right now if we thought Trump funded manipulating a virus that killed even 19 people ?

???? What did he do?
 

ezra

Well-known member
???? What did he do?

He as in fauci . There is a paper trail leading to a whuan lab and to make it worse his signature to circumvente the agreements put in place by world leaders put fourth by tge who to engage in the type of manipulating that was going on there .
 
I am not "terrified" of it. My personal opinion is there was not enough time given to it. That is my choice, it has nothing to do with politics, or who the president is. Question for you, I can respect the choice people make to get it, can you respect the choice of those who don't?

Well, I sure hope you decision is not based on politics, but the fact remains that over 40% of Republicans don't plan to get the vaccine.

As far as not enough time given to the vaccine, how much time do you need. Millions of Americans have received the vaccine and they are not dropping dead in the streets like flies. This technology has been around for decades. The reason it could be approved so quick was because the virus was so widespread that results could be gotten quickly. You didn't have to wait years for someone to catch it to compare vaccine results.

As far as respecting the choice of those who don't get it, my answer is if you have a good reason I will respect that. Not everyone should get the vaccine. Case in point. My grandson has bad allergic reactions to certain things. He always needs to have an EpiPen ready. He has had the covid so already has some immunity. I recommended to my daughter that he probably shouldn't get the vaccine. However, he might still have to get the vaccine as the college he is attending is going to require all students be vaccinated come fall.

Just like we thank vets for serving, I think a big "Thank You" should go out to all of us who got the vaccine making it safer for everyone in the community. Herd immunity won't be achieved anytime soon unless folks get vaccinated. All you have to do is look at whats happening in India.

PS. I don't believe the vaccine should be forced on anyone either by the government or by employers, but I'm sure some employers will require it. However, if you refuse to believe in the science and don't have a good reason for not getting it then I classify those folks as dumb as*es.
 

Skylar

Super Moderator
Staff member
Well, I sure hope you decision is not based on politics, but the fact remains that over 40% of Republicans don't plan to get the vaccine.

As far as not enough time given to the vaccine, how much time do you need. Millions of Americans have received the vaccine and they are not dropping dead in the streets like flies. This technology has been around for decades. The reason it could be approved so quick was because the virus was so widespread that results could be gotten quickly. You didn't have to wait years for someone to catch it to compare vaccine results.

As far as respecting the choice of those who don't get it, my answer is if you have a good reason I will respect that. Not everyone should get the vaccine. Case in point. My grandson has bad allergic reactions to certain things. He always needs to have an EpiPen ready. He has had the covid so already has some immunity. I recommended to my daughter that he probably shouldn't get the vaccine. However, he might still have to get the vaccine as the college he is attending is going to require all students be vaccinated come fall.

Just like we thank vets for serving, I think a big "Thank You" should go out to all of us who got the vaccine making it safer for everyone in the community. Herd immunity won't be achieved anytime soon unless folks get vaccinated. All you have to do is look at whats happening in India.

PS. I don't believe the vaccine should be forced on anyone either by the government or by employers, but I'm sure some employers will require it. However, if you refuse to believe in the science and don't have a good reason for not getting it then I classify those folks as dumb as*es.

So your answer is, no, you do not respect my choice to not get the vaccine. Typical lib. I'm going to ignore your comment calling me a dumb azz.
 

slimcake

Well-known member
He as in fauci . There is a paper trail leading to a whuan lab and to make it worse his signature to circumvente the agreements put in place by world leaders put fourth by tge who to engage in the type of manipulating that was going on there .


Here is the elephant in the room. Good luck getting an honest answer from MP or abe on this topic. Or the lamestream media for that matter....

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He as in fauci . There is a paper trail leading to a whuan lab and to make it worse his signature to circumvente the agreements put in place by world leaders put fourth by tge who to engage in the type of manipulating that was going on there .


Mic drop. Notice how this gets glossed over by MP.....
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
Here is the elephant in the room. Good luck getting an honest answer from MP or abe on this topic. Or the lamestream media for that matter....

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Mic drop. Notice how this gets glossed over by MP.....

Don't drop abe in with MP.
 

wiviperman

Active member
My employer just sent out an email to the managers and supervisors stating that even with the vaccine, employee will need to continue wearing masks as their position is there has not been enough confirmation in regards to the vaccine being totally effective.
Just another reason why I won't get the vaccine! Shouldn't matter which Political side that you are on or anything else...it's each persons choice as to why or why not to get the vaccine and we all should be respectful enough to be okay with someone getting or not getting the vaccine.
 

800etec

Member
Who are you mp to decide if its a good reason or not? Good lord,get a clue,if people choose not to get the vacine,WHO THE **** CARES. I will NOT get the vacine,WHO CARES WHAT MY REASON IS.............."I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"
 

dfattack

Well-known member
#DontFeedTheTroll

Oh I so agree with that. Just ignore, but I have to admit there are times where it's too hard not to. I don't blame skylar for responding. There are a few others who rile me up too but mostly ignore. Don't want to violate rules and don't want to feed the few.

I cannot understand how those that get the vaccine have a problem with those that don't. I don't have a problem with those that do and once they are vaccinated...they don't have to worry about those that don't. I don't get it
 

eagle1

Well-known member
I cannot understand how those that get the vaccine have a problem with those that don't. I don't have a problem with those that do and once they are vaccinated...they don't have to worry about those that don't. I don't get it
Amen.....I don't get it either. Get it don't or don't.....move on with life.
 

russholio

Well-known member
Oh I so agree with that. Just ignore, but I have to admit there are times where it's too hard not to. I don't blame skylar for responding. There are a few others who rile me up too but mostly ignore. Don't want to violate rules and don't want to feed the few.

I cannot understand how those that get the vaccine have a problem with those that don't. I don't have a problem with those that do and once they are vaccinated...they don't have to worry about those that don't. I don't get it

Yeah, I know. I've broken my advice too many times. Trying to use reason and logic with someone like him is like administering medicine to a corpse and expecting a positive outcome.
 
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