Clutch maintenance - worn parts

old abe

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Funny you ask since I ended up getting the wrong ones, but didn't know it until we were up on the hill and installing them in the trailer. We kind of decided to go west at the last minute, and a bud I ride with has a similar sled and called a shop that did a reflash for him before to ask about what weights we needed. They sent us weights - the brand is SSI but we didn't buy them direct. They come in two ranges. Mine would have worked better with the lighter version.

Mine's a 600. Stock flatland calls for 68 grams. 6-9K feet is 62. Over 9K is 58 plus a different spring. The adjustable weights they sent are 64 - 86, so I ran them without any added weights at 64. They should have sent us the weights that run from 55 - 71. The sled did ok but definitely struggled at the higher elevations. Snowies has quite a bit of variation and I could definitely tell when the weights were closer to where they needed to be and when they weren't.

I wasn't part of the conversation with the shop so I don't want to throw them under the bus, but basically they sent us the wrong weights but I used them, so now I'm stuck with them. The upside would be I can set them up for the correct flatland weights if my stock weights are worn.

I wish I would have done my own research before leaving but I figured it was taken care of with the shop knowing what to do. I didn't even see the weights until we got out there and I was comparing them to the owners manual.

Live and learn I guess - we had a great trip and other than trying to climb anything at high elevations it did ok, and it was the only time I got out on the snow this pathetic season...
Yep, get all that, and thanks Hoosier! Live, and learn! We some years back spent quite a bit of time out there at West Yellow Stone, Island Park, and up above Laramie in the Snowies, where a friends, friend rented cabins called Mountain Meadows. I can't believe the difference in clutching just going from a 600, to a 700 sled. My 700 Doo with the TRA only need minor clutch adjustment, as the 600 took more, and parts. But I want my sled to be set up right out there as it's a long trip both ways. A dead, or sluggish poor set up doesn't work good, and not any fun for me. $$ counts, eh! We would range from 5K to 10K plus elevations, and really enjoyed the trips a bunch. However we'll take the West 1/2 of Sonny when they have snow, or a long Canadian trip over anything else, always! Gaspe, Vermont, and Maine are on the bucket list. Good luck always, eh.
 

Hoosier

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Yep, get all that, and thanks Hoosier! Live, and learn! We some years back spent quite a bit of time out there at West Yellow Stone, Island Park, and up above Laramie in the Snowies, where a friends, friend rented cabins called Mountain Meadows. I can't believe the difference in clutching just going from a 600, to a 700 sled. My 700 Doo with the TRA only need minor clutch adjustment, as the 600 took more, and parts. But I want my sled to be set up right out there as it's a long trip both ways. A dead, or sluggish poor set up doesn't work good, and not any fun for me. $$ counts, eh! We would range from 5K to 10K plus elevations, and really enjoyed the trips a bunch. However we'll take the West 1/2 of Sonny when they have snow, or a long Canadian trip over anything else, always! Gaspe, Vermont, and Maine are on the bucket list. Good luck always, eh.
We drove by Mountain Meadows a couple times while out there. Thought about trying that out sometime.

Hoping to get back to Ontario next season. Old Mother nature obviously wasn't cooperating this year. They had some spots with snow at times but not enough to be worth the trip for me at least.
 

old abe

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We drove by Mountain Meadows a couple times while out there. Thought about trying that out sometime.

Hoping to get back to Ontario next season. Old Mother nature obviously wasn't cooperating this year. They had some spots with snow at times but not enough to be worth the trip for me at least.
The Mountain Meadows cabins are small, and confined but that's part of the deal. Nice place to base out of. We go to ride, where ever we are, not laying back in a cabin, or room during riding hours. I can't believe what a absolute terrible snow season Ontario experienced this year. :unsure: It didn't help the snowmobile efforts to expand the trails one bit.
 

Hoosier

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Following up on this - I took the cover off the primary a couple days ago. I didn't have the right torx for the secondary but I'll do that soon. My goal was to clean and inspect and if everything looks ok, change the springs and move on. If I noticed issues I'm not sure it's cost effective to have someone rebuild it vs just getting a new clutch (definitely not going to buy all the needed tools). The new clutch cat has isn't all that expensive. Sled has 8K on it and I'll probably ride it 2 more seasons, and either sell it or keep it for my kids. TBD.

Anyway, I noticed the stock weights each have a small groove on them towards the end side, and sort of a small flat spot towards the base. I'm not sure if these are significant enough to worry about. Also, the aftermarket weights I used in Wyoming for 4 days last year are wider than the stock weights, and each has a groove in it going the long way at the same width of the stock weights. At least one of the rollers has a slight indentation in it (i.e., wear), and I assume the groove on the aftermarket weights was caused by the wear on the rollers, as the contact point was probably outside the worn spot on the rollers. I didn't notice anything else wrong with the primary. The cover bushing to me seems a bit loose but the moveable sheave doesn't seem to rock very much, and from what I can see on the buttons they seem ok.

So at this point I'm not sure what to do with it. I don't know enough to know what wear is ok and what is too much.
 

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mezz

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Get it rebuilt. With that many miles and nothing done it's over due & is a failure waiting to happen. Just my .02
 

old abe

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My experience with Poo clutches, is that if they get worn too much, it's far better, and cheaper to go with a new clutch. Just my experience with Poo sleds, and ATV/UTV's. Perhaps call Goodwin's for estimated costs? They have always been good with me on whatever I'm working with. Fett Bros also.
 

Rupp Collector

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I had a 2018 Polaris Ranger 1000 that had an unlimited mile extended warranty through Polaris. At 5,000 miles I had clutch issues that were not covered under the warranty. The terms for clutch warranty were the unit had to be inspected every 250 miles by an authorized Polaris dealer to be eligible for warranty repairs at a cost of $175 per visit. Do the math, should have read the fine print!
 

mezz

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This clutch belongs to a 2018 600 Cat. This should be able to be overhauled with new pins, rollers, bushings & weights unless there are some hidden cracks in the sheaves it should be rebuildable.
 

Hoosier

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This clutch belongs to a 2018 600 Cat. This should be able to be overhauled with new pins, rollers, bushings & weights unless there are some hidden cracks in the sheaves it should be rebuildable.

My experience with Poo clutches, is that if they get worn too much, it's far better, and cheaper to go with a new clutch. Just my experience with Poo sleds, and ATV/UTV's. Perhaps call Goodwin's for estimated costs? They have always been good with me on whatever I'm working with. Fett Bros also.

Thanks for input.

I didn't see any cracks in anything. Sounds like it will be $200-250 to get it rebuilt + parts. Country Cat has the ADAPT for about $400. I've have to get new weights and pins etc for that but it seems like I may need them for the team clutch anyway, and those parts cost a bit more for the team.

I got the secondary apart too and that all looks fine. From what I can tell the 2 rollers and the springs are the only wear parts on that.

I haven't done anything with clutches before so this is new to me. Been getting better at fixing cars these days unfortunately....
 
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