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timo

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I don't know how that happened above.
I remember seeing this guy at a brown game wearing a browns jersey and he had every name of their qb's for like that last 20 years on the back of his jersey, it stretched all the way to the ground. Hilarious.
 
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momoney2123

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timo said:
I don't know how that happened above.
I remember seeing this guy at a brown game wearing a browns jersey and he had every name of their qb's for like that last 20 years on the back of his jersey, it stretched all the way to the ground. Hilarious.
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That would be funny. Browns have wiffed on so many 1st round draft pics its unreal. Couch, brady quinn, weeden ,manziel...theres prolly more...
 
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timo

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Without looking it up I think they've started over 20 qb's since 1999.
I've been to a few browns games since they've moved back in '99., my wife's from NE Ohio. beautiful stadium right on the lake. sells out every game. right next door to the the R & R hall of fame. Beautiful area the way it's all laid out. Cleveland gets a bad wrap but its way nicer downtown and more accessible than Milwaukee. It's Not even close. The Jake or whatever they call the baseball stadium within walking distance. They have a rabid football fan base that takes a back seat to no one if they could just get some competent leader ship half the country would be pulling for them to win. going to a browns game isn't much different that going to a game at Lambeau. same crazy, raucous atmosphere.
only difference is one team is the envy of the league and the other is the laughing stock.
 
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Yeah, we like to give all the Chicago fans crap, just like they like to give us crap. But it could be worse. We could all be Browns fans!

I would take Cutler, heck I would take Clausen, any day over that mess they have there.

Manziel may end up being a bigger mess then Couch.
 
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Bart, Brett and Aaron ..... Welcome to Lambeau. Happy Thanksgiving, Bears fans!

I hope Ditka burned dat Packer sweater vest!
 
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timo

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For a packer fan I don't know what was worse, the game itself or that lame unveiling of Brett's name and #.
Mark Murphy is the worst speaker I've ever heard.
Why wasn't Ron Wolf handling this. He still a consultant. He brought Favre here and he's not as boring as watching paint dry like listening to Murphy was.

Hey Packer PR dept, ever hear of a video montage for Favre, and to play Tina Turners 1991 simply the best. Really???
You can't do better or more current than that??? Whoever is the PR person in charge of that debacle should be canned.

As far as on field goes, TT you might want to look at getting us a TE next year that can block, catch and run all in one package. Not 3 that can only do one.
Davante Adams you suck!

For you Bears fans that were crying about the officiating, what about the whistle that blew the play dead when Rodgers got the Bears to jump offside and hit Cobb for what would of been a 60 yard TD and most likely the difference in the game. Don't give me unabated to the QB either we had him blocked easily. There were a lot of bad calls and some went the Packers way but that call was a game changer.

To lose to the Lions and Vikings at home is totally unacceptable. Absolutely ridiculous. Its not like these teams are any good.
Just an all around embarrassing evening for the Pack.
 
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whitedust

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timo said:
For a packer fan I don't know what was worse, the game itself or that lame unveiling of Brett's name and #.
Mark Murphy is the worst speaker I've ever heard.
Why wasn't Ron Wolf handling this. He still a consultant. He brought Favre here and he's not as boring as watching paint dry like listening to Murphy was.

Hey Packer PR dept, ever hear of a video montage for Favre, and to play Tina Turners 1991 simply the best. Really???
You can't do better or more current than that??? Whoever is the PR person in charge of that debacle should be canned.

As far as on field goes, TT you might want to look at getting us a TE next year that can block, catch and run all in one package. Not 3 that can only do one.
Davante Adams you suck!

For you Bears fans that were crying about the officiating, what about the whistle that blew the play dead when Rodgers got the Bears to jump offside and hit Cobb for what would of been a 60 yard TD and most likely the difference in the game. Don't give me unabated to the QB either we had him blocked easily. There were a lot of bad calls and some went the Packers way but that call was a game changer.

To lose to the Lions and Vikings at home is totally unacceptable. Absolutely ridiculous. Its not like these teams are any good.
Just an all around embarrassing evening for the Pack.
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Hang in there Pack will do better or has big problems just have to see if McCarty can adjust game plan to what the Pack does well...Imo the officiating in that game was terrible for both teams.
 
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timo said:
For a packer fan I don't know what was worse, the game itself or that lame unveiling of Brett's name and #.
Mark Murphy is the worst speaker I've ever heard.
Why wasn't Ron Wolf handling this. He still a consultant. He brought Favre here and he's not as boring as watching paint dry like listening to Murphy was.

Hey Packer PR dept, ever hear of a video montage for Favre, and to play Tina Turners 1991 simply the best. Really???
You can't do better or more current than that??? Whoever is the PR person in charge of that debacle should be canned.

As far as on field goes, TT you might want to look at getting us a TE next year that can block, catch and run all in one package. Not 3 that can only do one.
Davante Adams you suck!

For you Bears fans that were crying about the officiating, what about the whistle that blew the play dead when Rodgers got the Bears to jump offside and hit Cobb for what would of been a 60 yard TD and most likely the difference in the game. Don't give me unabated to the QB either we had him blocked easily. There were a lot of bad calls and some went the Packers way but that call was a game changer.

To lose to the Lions and Vikings at home is totally unacceptable. Absolutely ridiculous. Its not like these teams are any good.
Just an all around embarrassing evening for the Pack.
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I dont think the Packers score without help from refs.

These teams are trending in opposite directions, rodgers posts his worse QB performance ever in lambaeu. Bears shutem out in 2nd half. Cutler plays well in lambeau. Who in the world saw this coming!! I guess you can say the bears arent any good(i kno u meant bears not vikings), a team that has won 3 out of 4 and have been in every game they played....they are clearly getting better every week. Had denver beat. The same denver team that just knocked off the best team in league and embarressed packers. Pack losing 4 outa 5, 2 at home. Cant stop run and let cutler torch them on 3rd down, im gona say they arent any good either. but Right now. Today. The bears are a better team than packers.
 
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whitedust said:
Hang in there Pack will do better or has big problems just have to see if McCarty can adjust game plan to what the Pack does well...Imo the officiating in that game was terrible for both teams.
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Packers have issues. its not playcalling IMO. Oline no good. A bad oline is hard to cover up.

officiating was bad, but the packers benefited more than the bears. bears had what 12 penalites? at least 7 were bogus. packers only had 3...
 
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whitedust

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Pack can run the ball and have good backs just need to hold onto the football. Coach M needs to stop being pass happy go with what works just like what Gase does with Da Bears. Who would think I would be saying Pack should do anything like Bear team & coaches??????????? lol
 
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whitedust said:
Pack can run the ball and have good backs just need to hold onto the football. Coach M needs to stop being pass happy go with what works just like what Gase does with Da Bears. Who would think I would be saying Pack should do anything like Bear team & coaches??????????? lol
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Hard to believe aint it. But i love it. Just gota lock up gase and fangio for next few years
 
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There were two off sides whistled dead and both time they were talking about unabated to the quarterback, but neither seemed to be the case. I'm sure someone can provide better insight on this than me, but I always thought the play continued if just the defense was offsides and the ball had to be snapped when they were offsides for that call to be made. Then a couple years ago they changed the rule to be if the defender jumping made the offensive lineman flinch or move, the play was whistled dead and the penalty was still called on the defense. What I've noticed a lot now is once the defender jumps, the O-lineman moves and points to the defender as if to say "you jumped and that caused me to move". I believe that is what causes the play to get whistled dead. If the O-line doesn't move and the ball is snapped while the defender is offsides it becomes a free play.

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but the way I see it is that the O-line guys are actually the ones causing the plays to get whistled dead in their hast to make sure the ref's see the defender moving
 
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whitedust

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During the Bear/Packer game lots of wierd calls by those officals....I didn't like that crew much they screwed up the pace of the game. Players always finger pointing in every game then right or wrong the officals make the call. I'm a let them play kind of guy just be equal to both teams as possible. Now days no one knows what a catch or a pick is can go either way.When you look at these plays in real time can't tell but slow down frame frame and you can see a slight bobble. I'm not sure the game was met to be played frame by frame...sometimes I think a great effort just give it to him.lol
 
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garyl62 said:
There were two off sides whistled dead and both time they were talking about unabated to the quarterback, but neither seemed to be the case. I'm sure someone can provide better insight on this than me, but I always thought the play continued if just the defense was offsides and the ball had to be snapped when they were offsides for that call to be made. Then a couple years ago they changed the rule to be if the defender jumping made the offensive lineman flinch or move, the play was whistled dead and the penalty was still called on the defense. What I've noticed a lot now is once the defender jumps, the O-lineman moves and points to the defender as if to say "you jumped and that caused me to move". I believe that is what causes the play to get whistled dead. If the O-line doesn't move and the ball is snapped while the defender is offsides it becomes a free play.

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but the way I see it is that the O-line guys are actually the ones causing the plays to get whistled dead in their hast to make sure the ref's see the defender moving
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One of the offside plays was allowed to continue which is why packer fans and their coach are crying. In the Bears game last week against the Broncos, their was one offsides play that was blown dead. I can agree that the calls are not very consistent.
 
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timo

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I really don't know what unabated to the Qb is anymore, I don't know what pass interference is anymore, I don't know what "process of a catch is, I don't know what roughing the QB is anymore, I don't know what the difference between a pick play is and a "rub" is between two WR's, I don't know what a fumble is anymore, I don't know what is a reviewable play is and what isn't anymore, I don't know what hitting a "defenseless receiver" is or where you can hit a QB anymore is, and you know what?
Neither do the official's.
Goddell is doing a great job of ruining this sport.





garyl62 said:
There were two off sides whistled dead and both time they were talking about unabated to the quarterback, but neither seemed to be the case. I'm sure someone can provide better insight on this than me, but I always thought the play continued if just the defense was offsides and the ball had to be snapped when they were offsides for that call to be made. Then a couple years ago they changed the rule to be if the defender jumping made the offensive lineman flinch or move, the play was whistled dead and the penalty was still called on the defense. What I've noticed a lot now is once the defender jumps, the O-lineman moves and points to the defender as if to say "you jumped and that caused me to move". I believe that is what causes the play to get whistled dead. If the O-line doesn't move and the ball is snapped while the defender is offsides it becomes a free play.

Maybe I'm wrong on that, but the way I see it is that the O-line guys are actually the ones causing the plays to get whistled dead in their hast to make sure the ref's see the defender moving
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