did poo 800's ever get straightened out?

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Nope..... I did not bring it up I responded to Polarice post on market topic. Same as everybody else this is what I saw on the trail XP after XP & read in mags. Seems to be very important to you that Poo is #1 so ok with me since no way to know. Market placement is interesting to me as a sales & marketing guy. Poo maybe #1 in mountain sleds which is a good thing but I'm interested in trail crossover sleds & what I see on trails in my area & not many pro rides out there or I would have seen them.

Nope.... Don't care who #1 is, but I'm not going to sit quiet while someone throws a 60% market share out there for Doo. 40% I can believe, but a bit different than 60%, wouldn't you agree?
 

timo

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mspease:
settle down dude.
skid doo has the largest makret share get over it already.




Nope.... Don't care who #1 is, but I'm not going to sit quiet while someone throws a 60% market share out there for Doo. 40% I can believe, but a bit different than 60%, wouldn't you agree?
 
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Dude? I didn't think I was that uptight, heck I just said I didn't care who was #1, dude. Sorry to upset you dude.
 

timo

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rant? who's ranting beside you? check out your last four posts and tell me who's ranting. a couple people here have attached links and all you say it "show me the facts". read them. I think if we dropped the facts on your head you wouldn't beleive it anyway. what am i even doing on this thread? i'm a "doo-hard". good bye.
 

timo

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FACTS:
Polarice, if you would of taken the time to read the link that fjr4me posted you would of not be wasting everyones time.
Scroll down to the 4th BRP paragraph. The first sentence states "Ski Doo is the maket share leader in the snow segment.
Is this good enought now?







Facts man. Where is the evidence to this?



I'd rather not listen to a rant from a doo-hard.
 

polarisrider1

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What was the question? Oh....... YES. ninety posts to answer this one, and we wonder why the Chinese are kicking our butts. Poo Hard LMFAO!! :) writing that one down.
 
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xyooper and russholio,

Those are both very funny and creative! Gotta love some of the things people come up with on here! LMAO.
 

russholio

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Thanks, but I gotta defer to xyooper.....I thought his was absolutely hilarious. I think I have to go change my knickers after that one.
 

uncle_ed

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I think its a great time to own a snowmobile with so much to choose from out there in the way of fun, reliable sleds. They all have their issues and there will always be blown motors and break downs because they are engineered and put together by humans and we torture the snot out of them!

I cant say for certain that polaris is having any more issues with their 800 than cat or doo but it sure seems to be hyped up alot for sure. What I have been hearing and reading keeps me riding a 600 for now and it will be a long way off before I consider anything else.

As for sales numbers I did find this for what it is worth:
Market Share
It’s difficult to identify the market share held by each OEM because there are no retail sales reports by manufacturer. But Power Products Marketing estimates that there are some significant changes developing a mid-season.
BRP continues to be the segment leader with about 40 percent share, about what it had last year, although it may have slipped a point or two because of lost sales on its Renegade crossover machines.
It looks as though Arctic Cat’s very strong December sales could help it gain a few points, if its sales hold up through the end of the season. If Cat’s sales hold strong, it could move into second place ahead of Polaris, with about 28 percent market share.
Last year, Power Products Marketing estimated that Arctic Cat and Polaris were tied for second place with about 24 percent share. It looks as though Polaris picked up share, but we don’t think it grabbed as much as Arctic through December, and so it slipped to third place. It’s still up in the air as to who is going to hold second place at the end of the season.
Yamaha continued to have a tough time although it’s having a good season, according to West, head of its snowmobile marketing operation.
The silver lining to this year’s snowmobile season at the mid-point is that consumer interest remains high. Consumers seem to remain excited about snowmobiling, and they seem willing to buy new sleds when there’s snow on the ground.

link for article
 

Polarice

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FACTS:
Polarice, if you would of taken the time to read the link that fjr4me posted you would of not be wasting everyones time.
Scroll down to the 4th BRP paragraph. The first sentence states "Ski Doo is the maket share leader in the snow segment.
Is this good enought now?

Ya I actually missed that link. Don't get sooo bent out of shape ya doo harder.

That article is over a year old. I also like how it says; 'about 40 percent...about 24 percent...we think...'. Huh; maybe I should base facts on 'here say' as Judge Judy says.

I don't really care who's on top...I would like to know real up to date figures.
 
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whitedust

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This is more up to date stating that brp is indeed about 40 percent but has dropped. While Polaris they say now is 28 percent when their previous article said about 24 percent. Then they say Polaris has stayed the same...when the other article said 24. Well what is it really?

Don't think about it too hard. lol If you are in sales & marketing a 3-5% market gain is huge there is no way you pick up 12-18 % in a year in snowmobiles unless an OEM drops out. Doo like I said is way out in front then Cat & Poo a close 2nd. Poo may slowly move up but it is not like Doo will sit on their hands never have in past & want their numbers up as well. Yamaha I think may sell engines to Cat which would give Cat a big boost if it happens. I'm not sure that Yamaha wants to continue in the long term in the sled biz. Cat now manufacturing SRX for Yamaha & you can be sure Yam lineup OEM engine supply was discussed & would be a very good thing for both companies. This gives Yam a graceful exit to snowmobile market Cat picks up Yam sled dealers & most of Yam market share & overall very profitbale for both companies. Somthing to think about in next few years no room for 4 OEMs in shrinking market!
 
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