Electric Snowmobile

sweeperguy

Active member
Yes, but 40,000# is the battery pack!

Tesla actually didn't release tare weight, but from some knowledgeable battery weight (x) kw averages it should be in the area of 11,000 lbs. According to the article I read.

Wondering where your getting your numbers from
 
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Cirrus_Driver

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old c ell phones did have better reception. nokia 5160 was the only phone that could get reception at my cabin. this new junk is horse dung as far as reception.

It's not the phone, it's the CARRIER.
 

mezz

Well-known member
It's not the phone, it's the CARRIER, dorkus.

In part, it is the carrier, but also the equipment. The equipment today has better technology, but, less than half the reception power of previous equipment. Analog Bag Phone or Brick Phone was over 3.5 watts, now your lucky to get 1 - 2 watts of digital service with the hand held. I could get longer range of service with the old brick than the new phones. Of course, you can by an amplifier/booster for another $400+ to get what you had for reception out of the box back in the day, but, now your into over a grand just for equipment.:satellite:-Mezz
 

Grant Hoar

New member
Tesla actually didn't release tare weight, but from some knowledgeable battery weight (x) kw averages it should be in the area of 11,000 lbs. According to the article I read.

Wondering where your getting your numbers from

Probably the usual source; outa mid air without facts to stir the pot.
 

old abe

Well-known member
In part, it is the carrier, but also the equipment. The equipment today has better technology, but, less than half the reception power of previous equipment. Analog Bag Phone or Brick Phone was over 3.5 watts, now your lucky to get 1 - 2 watts of digital service with the hand held. I could get longer range of service with the old brick than the new phones. Of course, you can by an amplifier/booster for another $400+ to get what you had for reception out of the box back in the day, but, now your into over a grand just for equipment.:satellite:-Mezz

Analog to digital, bag, brick, flip, to smart??? Yep, right on mezz!!!

Telsa claims their electric semi tractor/trailer as being competitive, in cargo capacity, and power. At that, I would reason the 45/48K payload range. There is unbelievable interest in the trucking industry large fleets for these.
 
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old abe

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Hauling thousands of pounds of batteries isn't a problem for a semi. Battery weight is a huge issue for lightweight sleds, where every pound matters.

I believe we will all be very surprised how quickly that problem is solved, as is the last few years in battery tech is now.
 

DamageInc

Member
I believe we will all be very surprised how quickly that problem is solved, as is the last few years in battery tech is now.

It's now? Where are these lightweight batteries that can power a snowmobile for hundreds of miles, without a weight increase over a two-stroke? The tech does not exist yet.
 

old abe

Well-known member
It's now? Where are these lightweight batteries that can power a snowmobile for hundreds of miles, without a weight increase over a two-stroke? The tech does not exist yet.

I DID not say the batteries are here now to do what you want to with a sled as now. What I said was this, "I believe how quickly that problem will be solved". It will be here sooner than we believe it to be. Snobuilder, I really like the battery powered hand tools, and such, that I use today much more than a few years back. Smaller, much more powerful, and lighter. All of those I like!!!
 

tack836

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Rc cars, boats, planes ect. have been using lightweight high capacity lithium polymer and lithium ion batteries for 15 years. Power tool industry was just a little behind the curve. Besides becoming more durable/reliable the gains in performance have been minimal. I believe current energy storage techniques are close to maxed out and a completely different way of storing it is the way to big gains.
 

mezz

Well-known member
really ? because I have had the same carrier for over 30 yrs

Same here, I think mine started out as Cellular One, owned by Motorola whom had a good product. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_One believe it or not, that battery in that bag phone lasted, even in the cold, well below zero cold, I use to jam that thing into the trunk of the sled & head off .... I think they are owned by AT&T now.......:confused2:-Mezz
 
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Grant Hoar

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I will be patenting solar panel sled wraps soon; problem solved.

Glad to have that issue resolved because if we had to each run extension cords down the trail it would just bring up that old "stay on the right side of the trail" debate.

Or, go back to the original electric powered transportation mode of trolley wires. It worked a hundred years ago, why not bring it back.
 

old abe

Well-known member
Rc cars, boats, planes ect. have been using lightweight high capacity lithium polymer and lithium ion batteries for 15 years. Power tool industry was just a little behind the curve. Besides becoming more durable/reliable the gains in performance have been minimal. I believe current energy storage techniques are close to maxed out and a completely different way of storing it is the way to big gains.

With the amount of people, and the large investments into developing electrical powered transportation of many forms, it will happen. I was in elementary school, and heard President Kennedy say that we were going to put man on the moon. I thought wow!!! It happened!!! Energy storage of many different forms will be developed.
 

tack836

New member
Eventually yes but probably not as soon as you would think and even when it happens the cost will most likely be through the roof.
 

DamageInc

Member
I DID not say the batteries are here now to do what you want to with a sled as now. What I said was this, "I believe how quickly that problem will be solved". It will be here sooner than we believe it to be. Snobuilder, I really like the battery powered hand tools, and such, that I use today much more than a few years back. Smaller, much more powerful, and lighter. All of those I like!!!

What you are essentially saying is that you are confident that a technological breakthrough in battery technology will happen in the next few years. I hope it happens, but it's far from a sure thing. It's more likely that we will continue to see incremental improvements in lithium tech.

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I will be patenting solar panel sled wraps soon; problem solved.

Glad to have that issue resolved because if we had to each run extension cords down the trail it would just bring up that old "stay on the right side of the trail" debate.

Or, go back to the original electric powered transportation mode of trolley wires. It worked a hundred years ago, why not bring it back.

Solar isn't going to work very well in the U.P. since it's almost always cloudy in winter, until Superior freezes over. :)
 

sweeperguy

Active member
I will be patenting solar panel sled wraps soon; problem solved.

Glad to have that issue resolved because if we had to each run extension cords down the trail it would just bring up that old "stay on the right side of the trail" debate.

Or, go back to the original electric powered transportation mode of trolley wires. It worked a hundred years ago, why not bring it back.

That would actually solve another problem. By keeping sleds on designated trails.
 

old abe

Well-known member
Eventually yes but probably not as soon as you would think and even when it happens the cost will most likely be through the roof.

Let me ask this. If you would have told anyone, say 10 years ago, that Telsa, or anyone, would have a on the road electrical powered semi tractor trailer by today, would they have laughed you out of town?????????
 
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