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dcsnomo

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bobsledder said:
Tyson Food in Shelbyville, Tennessee has eliminated Labor Day as a paid holiday in favor of the last day of Ramadan because they have 700 Muslim employees. The fact that they have almost that many non-muslim employees is beside the point apparently!

I will no longer purchase any Tyson products. It's just one more little chunk of America that's been bitten off. If you wish to join me, then let your e-mail friends know this. If we don't stand up for something we will fall for anything.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

This was verified snopes.com <http://snopes..com/> <http://snopes.com/ <http://snopes.com/> > .
1. snopes.com: Tyson Foods Muslim Holiday <http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/tyson.asp> 
Employees of a Tyson Foods plant in Tennessee will be given a paid day off for the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr.
...a Tyson Foods plant in Tennessee will be given a paid day off for the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr. ...drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr You can bet that this action by Tyson is only the beginning to removing more of the holidays and other symbols...
...Times-Gazette reported that workers at the local Tyson Foods' poultry processing plant would no longer have a paid day off on...
Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:41:03 GMT http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/tyson.asp <http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/tyson.asp>
2. snopes.com: Where's the Outrage - Alisa Wilson <http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/outrage.asp> 
Letter to the 'Wall Street Journal' responds to a 'Where's the Outrage?' editorial?
...Food Glurge Gallery History Holidays Horrors Humor Inboxer Rebellion Language Legal Lost Legends Love Luck Media Matters...
...from Muslims. Just this week, Tyson's Food negotiated with its union to permit Muslims to have Eid-al-Fitr as a holiday instead of Labor Day. What am I...
...am I missing? Yes, there is a large Somali Muslim population working at the Tyson's plant in Tennessee. Tennessee, last I checked, is still part of the...
Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:47:06 GMT http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/outrage.asp <http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/outrage.asp>
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bobsledder said:
I don't want to start a pi**ing match 'cause the Tyson issue is of no importance to me, but if you actually click through on the Snopes link you provided you will find that the issue is very misrepresented. Snopes lists it as "a mixture of true and false information" and cites the Tyson press release http://www.tysonfoods.com/Media/News-Releases/2008/08/Labor-Day-Still-Recognized-at-Tyson-Foods.aspx to explain the situation.

While I am very frustrated with immigrants not learning our language (the original intent of the post), I am not at all offended by an employee using his one paid personal day to observe a religious holiday, similar to a Jewish employee observing Passover or a Catholic employee observing Good Friday, or me taking St. Patrick's day off to go to St. Paul and drink green beer.
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catmandoo

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Maybe they could be willing to live like Americans to, not Americans tolerate there throw toilet paper on the floor ways
 
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rocketman356

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bobsledder said:
tyson food in shelbyville, tennessee has eliminated labor day as a paid holiday in favor of the last day of ramadan because they have 700 muslim employees. The fact that they have almost that many non-muslim employees is beside the point apparently!

I will no longer purchase any tyson products. It's just one more little chunk of america that's been bitten off. If you wish to join me, then let your e-mail friends know this. If we don't stand up for something we will fall for anything.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

This was verified snopes.com <http: Snopes..com /><http://snopes.com/ <http: Snopes.com />> .
1. Snopes.com: Tyson foods muslim holiday <http: Tyson.asp religion politics www.snopes.com>
employees of a tyson foods plant in tennessee will be given a paid day off for the muslim holiday of eid al-fitr.
...a tyson foods plant in tennessee will be given a paid day off for the muslim holiday of eid al-fitr. ...drops labor day holiday for eid al-fitr you can bet that this action by tyson is only the beginning to removing more of the holidays and other symbols...
...times-gazette reported that workers at the local tyson foods' poultry processing plant would no longer have a paid day off on...
Mon, 24 jan 2011 12:41:03 gmt http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/tyson.asp <http: Tyson.asp religion politics www.snopes.com>
2. Snopes.com: Where's the outrage - alisa wilson <http: Politics www.snopes.com outrage.asp soapbox>
letter to the 'wall street journal' responds to a 'where's the outrage?' editorial?
...food glurge gallery history holidays horrors humor inboxer rebellion language legal lost legends love luck media matters...
...from muslims. Just this week, tyson's food negotiated with its union to permit muslims to have eid-al-fitr as a holiday instead of labor day. What am i...
...am i missing? Yes, there is a large somali muslim population working at the tyson's plant in tennessee. Tennessee, last i checked, is still part of the...
Mon, 24 jan 2011 12:47:06 gmt http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/outrage.asp <http: Politics www.snopes.com outrage.asp soapbox>

wow i cant spell speak in the headline thanks in advance frnash
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feed them some pork
 
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favoritos

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Holy . . .

This should not be the site to continue prejudice. It has been enough to hear legitimate complaints about using English. But. . .

Truck drivers with bad habits based upon skin color or country origin. Not a fact. I have been an OTR driver. I have seen what is going on at truck stops. I feel quite comfortable saying that the way some minority drivers get treated is actually a crime.

Anyone interested, grab a CB and listen, you would be shocked at what the drivers are saying.

I sure hope that we are better than this as snowmobilers.
Love the sport. I hope to see more people welcomed into the fun.
 
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mxz500rider

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I work at a truck stop and some of the drivers that come in, make me wonder how they obtained a CDL with the very little English they speak.
 
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kamikaze_bros

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frnash said:
English teachers will enjoy this!

1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
2) The farm was used to produce produce.
3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.
6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.
8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.
9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10) I did not object to the object.
11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13) They were too close to the door to close it.
14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
18) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
19) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
20) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?

Let's face it - English is a crazy language.

There is no egg in eggplant, nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple.
English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France.
Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.
We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?
If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth, beeth?
One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese?
One index, 2 indices?
Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend?
If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.
In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?
Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?
You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which, an alarm goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all. That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible.

PS. - Why doesn't 'Buick' rhyme with 'quick'?

You lovers of the English language might enjoy this .

There is a two-letter word that perhaps has more meanings than any other two-letter word, and that is 'UP.'

It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP?
At a meeting, why does a topic come UP?
Why do we speak UP and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report?
We call UP our friends. And we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver; we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen.
We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car.
At other times the little word has real special meaning.
People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses.
To be dressed is one thing, but to be dressed UP is special.
A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP.
We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night.

We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP!
To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP, look the word UP in the dictionary.
In a desk-sized dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4th of the page and can add UP to about thirty definitions.
If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used.
It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more.
When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP.
When the sun comes out we say it is clearing UP.
When it rains, it wets the earth and often messes things UP.
When it doesn't rain for awhile, things dry UP.

One could go on and on, but I'll wrap it UP, for now my time is UP, so … it is time to shut UP!

(Author unknown.)
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The author may be unknown but it sure sounds an awful lot like George Carlin, may he rest in peace or is that piece?
 
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UP RIDER

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Nicely Done!

Nicely Done!
slimcake said:
Cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Mexican border illegally you will be jailed for two years.
If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.
If you cross the United States border illegally you get: (ALMOST ALL TRUE)
1 - A job
2 - A driver's license
3 - A Social Security card
4 - Welfare
5 - Food stamps
6 - Credit cards
7 - Subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house
8 - Free education
9 - Free health care
10 - A lobbyist in Washington
11 - Billions of dollars in public documents printed in your language
12 - Millions of servicemen and women who are willing to – and do – die for your right to the ways and means of our constitution
13 - And the right to carry the flag of your country - the one you walked out on – while you call America racist and protest that you don't get enough respect.
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frnash

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booondocker said:
frnash said:
(English teachers will enjoy this!

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all.)

AKA....People, not computers, invented English......:eek:
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As a matter of fact I never did particularly well in English classes — to damn much rote memorization of a bunch of stupid, illogical rules! I hated it!

The key for me was etymology, the study of word origins. In grade school I was in the habit of studying the etymology of any word I ever found in the dictionary.

Then by pure coincidence I took a course called "Vocabulary and Diction" at Michigan Tech, using a text entitled Latin and Greek in Current Use, by Eli E. Burriss and Lionel Casson. A somewhat misleading title, but its focus was on etymology, the study of English word origins, and how their form and meaning have changed over time. That was the absolute answer to instinctively understanding correct spelling, and even grammar to a large extent! (Various editions of that book are still available on the used book market today, and I still have mine!)

This pretty much says it all:
What's in a word?
A lot, says Michigan Tech grad and linguist
By John Gagnon

The proliferation of foreign influences on English is a product of the melting pot culture. In the Copper Country alone in the late 1800s, Remlinger¹ says, there were twelve foreign-language newspapers being published. English proved adaptive. “Two-thirds of our vocabulary is borrowed from other languages,” Remlinger¹ says. “English is a real mutt language.”
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[¹ References]
1. Remlinger, Kathryn A. (2007). "The intertwined histories of identity and dialect in Michigan's Copper Country." In Alison K. Hoagland, Erik Nordberg, & Terry Reynolds (Eds.), New perspectives on Michigan's Copper Country, pp. 62–84. Houghton, MI: Quincy Mine Hoist Association.

2. Remlinger, Kathryn A. (2006). "What it means to be a Yooper: Identity, language attitudes and variation in Michigan's Keweenaw Peninsula." In Markku Filppula, Marjatta Palander, Juhani Klemola and Esa Penttilä (Eds.), Topics in dialectal variation, pp. 125–144. Joensuu, Finland: University of Joensuu Press.

3. Remlinger, Kathryn. (2002). "Talking the talk of the Copper Country." Marquette Monthly, August feature article, pp. 22–25.
 
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booondocker

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One of THE most interesting classes I ever took was linguistics...but it NEVER helped me to spell....and I still get loose and lose mixed up more than I want to admit.

After following my spelling bee champion sister along in grade school, I can still hear the immortal words of my 3rd grade teacher scolding me and asking me if I didn't learn my word spelling lists...I would be "doomed to carrying a dictionary around in my pocket forEVER!!" I told her that 'THIS IS THE JOB OF A GOOD SECRETARY.... AND I INTENDED TO HAVE ONE IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO CHECK MY SPELLING.....(I got in trouble with that statement....):D

And to this day....good old word speller is my salvation.....diction...piece of kake!
 
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