F-Con

euphoric1

Well-known member
if this qualifies as a rant not approved for this site, I understand and just remove it. Ill keep it short and simple.... Anyone that thinks this F-CON in SE Wi is a great idea..... SHOULD LIVE IN THIS NIGHTMARE ONCE!
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
I can imagine....I live on the east end of Walworth Co. and there is a continuous looping caravan of dump trucks hauling gravel from way out here.

The drivers are all smiling, going ..."cha-ching,....cha-ching!!!!
 
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Cirrus_Driver

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I have a funny feeling you're referring to the MAJOR traffic jam this morning on HWY 20 at HWY 94, heading EAST? That was a bit ridiculous....and what were the cops doing out there directing traffic?
One thing I've noticed is, there's a MAJOR increase in truck traffic on HWY 20. It's all trucks. Took me over an hour this A.M. to go 31 miles. Fortunately it ALL ends for me in 36 weeks.
 

euphoric1

Well-known member
Yes and no, our infrastructure around here has been deteriorating to say the least, had no money to fix, now we are the construction hub of the state, and as snowbuilder said a constant loop of dump trucks, constant stream of trucks past our business, a lot of which are not even form the area, and I do understand...take advantage of the gold rush, but they drive by their own rules and it seems like we are supposed to look the other way. and if anyone thinks things will get better when its done is seriously mistaken, if you live in the surrounding area weather you like it or not your life is going to change, in my opinion... why they are here is location, interstate and unending supply of fresh water which makes you wonder how long before we wont be able to eat the fish or how much it will change the eco system. My neighbor has wanted to put up pole building in a so called "wet area" which I assure you hasn't been wet as long as I can remember. but hey.... want to build a large company on top of wet lands... go right ahead, no problem. the county to the south of us had it right when they said no. we should have as well. some landowners were made millionaires and some had their land taken. just don't like the whole thing, especially all the concessions that have been made. wouldn't we all like that yellow brick road paved for us. that's it ill stop now
I have a funny feeling you're referring to the MAJOR traffic jam this morning on HWY 20 at HWY 94, heading EAST? That was a bit ridiculous....and what were the cops doing out there directing traffic?
One thing I've noticed is, there's a MAJOR increase in truck traffic on HWY 20. It's all trucks. Took me over an hour this A.M. to go 31 miles. Fortunately it ALL ends for me in 36 weeks.
 

gary_in_neenah

Super Moderator
Staff member
I was disappointed to see all the farmland that will be paved over. Some of the best land for growing in the state of Wisconsin under gravel and asphalt. Too bad because once it's gone...it's gone.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
No one ever thought a technology co. of this size would ever set up shop in the US, let alone WI.
This is the type of project that you hear about an say "those jobs would be nice to have around here".

Wisconvalley.
 
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Yes and no, our infrastructure around here has been deteriorating to say the least, had no money to fix, now we are the construction hub of the state, and as snowbuilder said a constant loop of dump trucks, constant stream of trucks past our business, a lot of which are not even form the area, and I do understand...take advantage of the gold rush, but they drive by their own rules and it seems like we are supposed to look the other way. and if anyone thinks things will get better when its done is seriously mistaken, if you live in the surrounding area weather you like it or not your life is going to change, in my opinion... why they are here is location, interstate and unending supply of fresh water which makes you wonder how long before we wont be able to eat the fish or how much it will change the eco system. My neighbor has wanted to put up pole building in a so called "wet area" which I assure you hasn't been wet as long as I can remember. but hey.... want to build a large company on top of wet lands... go right ahead, no problem. the county to the south of us had it right when they said no. we should have as well. some landowners were made millionaires and some had their land taken. just don't like the whole thing, especially all the concessions that have been made. wouldn't we all like that yellow brick road paved for us. that's it ill stop now

Oh no, it will be great they said, no pollution they said, roads will be taken care of they said. Well I am the Lorax I and speak for the trees! Hopefully some of the things they promised will work but I agree with the above, no restriction too large that they can't get through now.
 

saber1

Active member
I hope it works out for Wisconsin but it cost u 4Bil in tax breaks for 13000 jobs thats around 300,000 a job biggest incentive package to date i hope it was worth it only time will tell now
 

Northstar

Member
Remember Motorola in Harvard, IL. Paved over 300 acres of farm land to build cell phones of all things. Built and opened with great fanfare and thought to be a big win for the area. Now there is 1.5 million square feet of unused space. Motorola only lasted 7 years before they folded up and eventually sold off the space to the Chinese who are no longer paying property taxes.

Lets hope that Foxcon lasts longer and does not leave their own little ghost town in the region.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
I hope it works out for Wisconsin but it cost u 4Bil in tax breaks for 13000 jobs thats around 300,000 a job biggest incentive package to date i hope it was worth it only time will tell now

It hasn't cost 4 B. The tax incentives are jobs based and over 10 years....no jobs, NO PAYOUT...BTW where do you ppl get your news info that you don't already know this?

Full employment in the const. field right now will be filling the state coffers immediately this year.
 
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xcr440

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Remember Motorola in Harvard, IL. Paved over 300 acres of farm land to build cell phones of all things. Built and opened with great fanfare and thought to be a big win for the area. Now there is 1.5 million square feet of unused space. Motorola only lasted 7 years before they folded up and eventually sold off the space to the Chinese who are no longer paying property taxes.

Lets hope that Foxcon lasts longer and does not leave their own little ghost town in the region.

When was this, is the big question. Without getting into the politics of it, I think its self explanatory. But as we all know, things change, laws change, tax incentives change, and companies react to those changes.

Hopefully FoxxConn works out better this time.
 

timo

Well-known member
or we can spend another 150 million ripping up all the roads in the city for a trolley car that no one rides.
 
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Cirrus_Driver

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Remember Motorola in Harvard, IL. Paved over 300 acres of farm land to build cell phones of all things. Built and opened with great fanfare and thought to be a big win for the area. Now there is 1.5 million square feet of unused space. Motorola only lasted 7 years before they folded up and eventually sold off the space to the Chinese who are no longer paying property taxes.

Lets hope that Foxcon lasts longer and does not leave their own little ghost town in the region.

That could become a reality with the party of obstruction and socialism, "ie" the Evers, and Doyle types in charge. Fortunately the adults will still be in charge of the st senate and assembly and that = "block-ski".
 

euphoric1

Well-known member
My thoughts exactly, no one really knows the extent of the tax incentives, what happens when and if they pull out. We already have a large piece of industrial property on the lakefront that the forest is starting to reclaim but is still contaminated, while the very company that was once based there still functions at another location, im sure eventually tax payers will be on the line to reclaim property to make it viable again, and good lick with the 13,000 jobs, high profile good paying jobe abundant here and no one can fine employment or people to work. And if we are employing local people why are we building housing. it all looks good from outside, but living in it is a different story. or how one persons vacant land is worth millions and another is blighted because a town ship wants the land for other possible construction that may come along with. Overnight everyone's property is worth more money, for what? taxes. to pay for all of this new infrastructure being put in, re built or recovered. We will see what comes but afraid also that we will eventually be left as a ghost town.
Remember Motorola in Harvard, IL. Paved over 300 acres of farm land to build cell phones of all things. Built and opened with great fanfare and thought to be a big win for the area. Now there is 1.5 million square feet of unused space. Motorola only lasted 7 years before they folded up and eventually sold off the space to the Chinese who are no longer paying property taxes.

Lets hope that Foxcon lasts longer and does not leave their own little ghost town in the region.
 
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Tracker

Guest
um...I think ya'll forgetting something impotent....how much are your taxes...lets say 3000 a year...and that's just the house so counting food and all thing taxed you could times it several times over

3000 per person per year X 13,000 workers in just that one factory...not counting peripheral businesses and people which could number 6 times the 13,000...but

13,000 X 3000 = 39 million dolla.....times 6 is 234,000,000 million dolla

so theres that
 

euphoric1

Well-known member
Yes... looks good on paper...but... what is the company paying in taxes, or not and for how long. One other thing, I'm sure they are not coming here because the labor is cheaper.
um...I think ya'll forgetting something impotent....how much are your taxes...lets say 3000 a year...and that's just the house so counting food and all thing taxed you could times it several times over

3000 per person per year X 13,000 workers in just that one factory...not counting peripheral businesses and people which could number 6 times the 13,000...but

13,000 X 3000 = 39 million dolla.....times 6 is 234,000,000 million dolla

so theres that
 

renegade

Active member
Even if they only hit half their job goals its a better deal then building a basketball arena for a bunch of millionaires and billionaires to create subpar part time seasonal employment. I myself have never seen Wisconsin so busy with trucking needs and there is a big increase of factory to factory shipments, which I take as a good sign, and F-conn should only increase these.
 
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