F8 and F6 questions
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jrosenthal
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The F6 puts out right around 120 hp. Follow your owners manual for fuel requirements. My 2008 F6 and F1000 are tuned to run on 87 octane gas and if you put premium in you're wasting your money.
indy_500
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I was sitting on some newer Arctic Cat's last week and the gas cap said to put in a minimum of 91 octane...
legend02
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Mu buddy has 2010 F8 and the knock sensor came on even with 91 octane from a gas station in the UP ( meaning the gas might not be what is should be ) , he always carries octane booster now just in case.
mjkaliszak
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Very True.... Can attest to that .
Will say to cats defense, I think the f series is the best on the body ( most comfortable ) and has stood up to a " whipping " in this camp. 8800 + miles on an 07. We rode around with the entire guage & windshield ripped off on a trip. The 07 F6 was a little weak, poor clutching ect... and a lack of legs in the stretch. Would buy another F-series but waiting for cat to come out with a 800, oil injected, big gas tank, consumer / trail ridable race platform ( like a race replica POO put out in 08 ). Guess I won't be holding my breath for that 1.....
What would be great is if Cat comes out with a new lighter chassis but keeps the existing motors for another year or two. Sure they don't gas quite the gas and oil mileage as the others but they don't seem to have the same burn down issues either. Sooner or later the EPA will get to them too but maybe they have enough credits for another year.
indy_500
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Cat will not be allowed to release sleds with their existing engines for next year. 2012 a bunch of useless EPA regulations come into effect.
snow_monkey
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I have not been on one. I have read that the 600 is not enough to overcome the weight. I have ridden a 2002 zl ss 600 and thought that was a quick sled but a totally different animal.
I don't know if that's true as they can still use credits in some cases. If it is, that sucks.
I hope this isn't too political, but the repubs in the house are trying to pass a bill that would prevent the EPA from issuing regulations related to "global warming." Of course the bill would have no chance in the senate or in the white house, but this is exactly what needs to happen to stop this crap. Regardless of your views on global warming or climate change, snowmobiles are such a small piece of the emissions puzzle (plus they aren't operated in high-pollution areas) that I think it's ridiculous that they need to be so over-regulated. Reading around on these boards, the EPA regs have really taken down the reliability of the 2 strokes and have increased costs at the same time. Four strokes aren't exactly affordable and many don't want them, so I hope there is a way to start pushing back.
indy_500
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It's true, arctic cat is the only one with sleds that don't pass. Polaris 600 and 800 cfi's pass, doo's etec 600 and 800 pass and all 4 brands 4 strokes pass. This is the reason why cat has the most reliable, most powerful 2 stroke sleds on the market. Poo and Doo are making their sleds extremly lean in the mid-range to pass epa regulations then rich on top end to make up for it. But, 90% of the time while riding you're in the mid-range therefore you see lots of blow-ups from these sleds.
I don't doubt your info, but do you have a source that cat won't pass even with the credits? I'm just interested in learning more about this. I was reading somewhere but I don't remember where that Yamaha and Cat have a lot of credits built up from their 4-strokes that they can apply to nonconfirming engines or sell to other manufacturers.
indy_500
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snowgoer
kamikaze_bros
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http://www.mstand.com/issue/14968/18
Once again Indy, you're proclaiming fact when you don't have them. Read this article written by "Mark Bourdeau" in the September 2010 issue of Snow West Magazine. Mark interviews John Tranby, marketing manager for Arctic Cat.
indy_500
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Umm I just read it and it said their existing motor is not compliant with the 2012 epa regulations but their 2012 motor plan is.
kamikaze_bros
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I owe you a sincere apology. I need to get my facts straight and pay a little closer attention to what you write. You are correct. Sorry for calling you out on the rug!
indy_500
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No problem, i'm just glad Cat has been able to make something that works for the past few years. In 10 years the only 08-11 2 strokes that'll be out there will be Cat's. Hopefully sled manufacturers will be able to figure something out in the near future or we will all be riding vintage sleds or 4 stroke tanks.