The new Leinie's Classic Amber is good, and so is Carlsberg Elephant. There is a lager called Wild Blue out, 8% alcohol with a touch of blueberry, but not thick and sweet like Berryweiss. All the microbrews and imports are good and STRONG. Anything Belgian is excellent. Sorry, I work part-time at a liquor store, so anything that's on the shelf is gonna end up in my gut eventually.