Ford truck motor size and extended warranty questions
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There will be deals on the XLTs but not on the Lariets or Platinums or any of the FX4 varients. Those are the ones to have of course. There is not much difference at all in mileage between the 5 liter and the turbo. The turbo will beat the 5 liter in a drag race every time if that is important to you. If you plan on keeping it over 60 thousand miles you better go with an extended warranty that covers all electrical issues. The electronics will fail long before most mechanical components. There are just too many electrical things to go wrong. This is not just Ford - They are all that way now. A new rear camera is $500 bucks. Ask me how I know this.
I gambled and didn't go with the extended warranty, but I bought the 5.0. One seal on the engine was replace under the drivetrain warranty. Other then that its a solid truck. '12, supercrew, f150, with the 6 1/2 bed. What I am disappointed in is that the cab corners are rusting out so I had to coat them with POR15. Granted its and 2WD XLT. Pulls my 18' Lund fine, 2 sleds aren't a problem, but the suspension isn't set up to handle my 27' travel trailer. I just added some Timbrens and its good now.
If I could afford it, I would buy another Tundra.
What ticks me off about trucks is how expensive they are and how fancy they are getting. I would really like one with simple gages, all vinyl so I can hose it out and heck I'd even go back to manual if it was cheaper.
If I could afford it, I would buy another Tundra.
What ticks me off about trucks is how expensive they are and how fancy they are getting. I would really like one with simple gages, all vinyl so I can hose it out and heck I'd even go back to manual if it was cheaper.
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Sticker on a loaded up 18 FX4 here is $66000. Then you would need some kind of bedliner plus some kind of box cover plus mudflaps. Only about $2500 in incentives. I am told very minor changes for '19. They want $30000 to boot if I trade in my 15 which is similarly loaded with 50 thousand miles. So that comes out to a nice 10 grand per year beating. Makes sledding look cheap. Kind of.
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Clearly, that rack was designed by yoopers, for yoopers,....racin' AND haulin' stuff....LOL
it was rotten under those plastic fender covers guaranteed.
think in Minneapolis they use some hardcore deicer . I have friends living up north with very little rust issues
Some of the fancy F150 models are very nice & if I had the money I would buy one but you can get a nicely loaded XLT for much cheaper. My XLT came with the 302A package which is upgraded chrome finishes, a sliding rear window, electronic brake controller, back-up camera, rear sensors, etc... I bought it during the month of September a few years ago when they had $10k+ off in rebates so the end result was the truck cost me like $36K after some negotiating (not counting trade-in). So you can get a nicely loaded XLT if there are solid rebates for $40K if you time things right.
After 8 straight GM full size pickups, 7 Chevy's, 1 GMC, (garage mans companion) I'd had enough. Four 5.3 failures!!! We decided Ford was our best choice. It's cost was more, but worth every penny. You can spec a Ford truck out exactly like you want it. No other brand comes anywhere close to being able to spec out the way Ford is able to. I know what I want my truck to be able to do as intended. We decided to wait for the 2017 model year, so as to order the new design 3.5 Eco Boost engine, and the 10 speed trans. This truck is everything and a lot more than I had expected in every way. Lariat is was best bang for our buck. Ordered up HD towing, 3.55 gears, 6 1/2' box, and this is a towing dream machine. Also ordered it with LT tires for the towing part, so it does ride a little bit rougher, but nothing to concern the wife as she says it's the best vehicle we ever had. It makes a 6.2 GM feel like a real DOG big time. I occasionally tow 14,500 lbs, no problem. Fuel mileage is 19.5 all around average, 22 hwy. Have gotten 23 plus with the right conditions. Towing is 9.5 to 12 mpg, and it just seems effortless. This thing will accelerate like no other truck other than the Ford Raptor, or Kips Shelby. And again, the GM 6.2 isn't even close. I am debating the extended warranty now, as we luv this truck!!!
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Agree bdoe03!!! Just as I am not as concerned with towing mpg. I want the power, and the torque to retain the pull. That is where the 3.5/2.7 V-6 turbos shine the best, is the usable, low RPM torque!!! No 4,500 + RPM needed. The Ford Eco Boost turbos make traveling the mountain inclines, and altitudes a non issue.
It has yet to be proven, IMO, the durability of these small displacement boosted GAS engines. The old saying of no replacement for displacement still comes into play in a towing/working application I believe. Boost in a gas engine is for racing not long term pulling. If there were not all these regulations on MPG we wouldn't be seeing all this. I love me some boost but not on stuff with spark plugs....
We sold our 2013 Eco with 100,000 trouble free miles. We did rear brakes and that's it. 600 RMK, in town you're right the 6.2 was about 12 but the time I took it to Hay Days and it did get 18.5 which is pretty good with 4:10 gear ratio. I love the 6.2! It pulls awesome and it's been dependable. I'm going to park the Shely in the winter and drive the Raptor.
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Not to call anyone out but I found out an interesting fact for 2018 models as I searched for my 18 F-150 STX, the FX-4 is now/again available as an accessory package on models like the STX for like $800. That means one can but an STX with FX-4 package for about $47k MSRP minus about 10-12k in rebates/discount.
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Yup, gotta have a bedliner of sorts. I got into the aluminum bed of my 18 STX to install the tonneau and heard creaks and groans like you never heard; it sounded sick compared to steel. I put in a plastic bed liner and plan to drive my sled in this winter.
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Lets all calm down about the 6.2, even though I bought an F-150 it is what powers my 17 SS Camaro; FWIW, it is rated at 25 MPG Hwy.
Six or so 3.9 second 0-60 sprints per tank and it still gets 21.5 MPG.
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Yup, I agree with Abe. The 10 speed is smart too. The "transmission modes" actually work well, sport is fun and the Tow/haul operates without revving to 3.8K to get the trailer moving up inclines. I do the same 70 MPH hwy speed with the 2.7 TT at 2.1 RPM's that the hemi did at 3.4 RPM's with a 5k trailer.
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Those were my thoughts also slimcake, and many Ford dealers also. But after being around several of the 3.5 Ecos with high mileage, many over 100K, and no problems out of the norm, my doubt seems not the case. They have been around enough years now, that any problems should have come out by now. My sons was not abused, but neither was it babied. It appears to me Ford would not promote these engines, EcoBoost turbos, only to jeopardize their # 1 product for over 40 years. Smaller displacement, high performance engines are the way of the future vehicles as it looks. I used to be of the mind that big cid V-8's, is the only way to go as being a trucker in life. My thoughts have now changed, just as times change. Reality. The new F 150 diesel would be the choice if towing/hauling most of the time. However the diesel doesn't have the horsepower/acceleration that the 3.5 gasser has, but it has a very friendly/usable torque curve, as does the 3.5 gasser. That's what counts in trucking.
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I have a 01 Toyota tundra runs good as the day I bought it. If I were going to get a new truck it would be a F150 with the 2.7 Toyotas are hard to buy with little discount.
Keep in mind they make money on all the extended warranties, they know the odds and do not loose money, if it was a money loser they wouldn't offer it or it would be WAY higher.
I have been buying new every 4 years or so starting with a 1969 F150 and would have lost money on every extended warranty had I have purchase them. However I do know one person who got a new engine on a extended warranty.
The engine and drive train warranties are now rather long.
I always have to listen to the extended warranty sales person after I make the deal with the car sales person and I always ask if the 250-500 deductable covers low cost things and he says "sure" it is covered, then I tell him how cheap the stuff he just said is covered and all the things I rattled off should be under 150-200 with parts and labor. Then I have to tell him I don't want a can of Scotch guard sprayed on the carpet for only $200, nor do I want a $400 wax job or a $10 tape pinstripe job for $100,,,,,,at least they don't push "rust proofing/undercoating" anymore.
HOWEVER as much as I am against extended warranties I bought a 15 Limited Explorer that has TONS of electronic "stuff" and have about 8 months to figure out if I'll consider a extended warranty,,,,,I'd hate to have to pay for the control that changes the colors of the "accent" lighting!
I have been buying new every 4 years or so starting with a 1969 F150 and would have lost money on every extended warranty had I have purchase them. However I do know one person who got a new engine on a extended warranty.
The engine and drive train warranties are now rather long.
I always have to listen to the extended warranty sales person after I make the deal with the car sales person and I always ask if the 250-500 deductable covers low cost things and he says "sure" it is covered, then I tell him how cheap the stuff he just said is covered and all the things I rattled off should be under 150-200 with parts and labor. Then I have to tell him I don't want a can of Scotch guard sprayed on the carpet for only $200, nor do I want a $400 wax job or a $10 tape pinstripe job for $100,,,,,,at least they don't push "rust proofing/undercoating" anymore.
HOWEVER as much as I am against extended warranties I bought a 15 Limited Explorer that has TONS of electronic "stuff" and have about 8 months to figure out if I'll consider a extended warranty,,,,,I'd hate to have to pay for the control that changes the colors of the "accent" lighting!
Your thoughts are exactly as mine. It's not so much the hard parts, but the tech stuff that I'm concerned with. And it's the same with everything now days, the "tech". I even had a "crate engine" replacement fail on my last GM. Failed before replacement warranty expired. Had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get the warranty to cover it. And that will be the last GM for sure!!! Made cheaply in Mexico.
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